Clevo notebooks with 800M series coming out February 2014

Yeah I agree, I like the interior lighting though.

 

Come down, I am saying GTX 750 Ti is most likely a refined Kepler ark with whatever name it ends up.

 

TechPowerUp GPU-Z 0.7.6 Released | techPowerUp

So if 840M is maxwell, there's still hope that 860M is Maxwell as well)

 

At least another junkie gpu (Titan black) will be out of the way asap.

750 Ti on Maxwell, if it is gonna carry the name, it will be a marketing gimmicky as Kepler has a big potential in low end desktop cards. Such as 880M, an oced 780m. But, reviews first!

Red Line, a tolky c Maxcimckoi 860M else performer ona ne kakoi. Clabee chem 870 I 880m...

 

HT has nailed it. That combined with unrealistic vegetation does prevent the engine from impressing me.

 

750Ti benchmarks - Nvidia GeForce GTX 750 Ti benchmarked - still no indication to prove 20nm.

 

Cant access it.

Tell what u saw

 

Did you notice that GT 840M is based on a different GPU than GTX 750 Ti? GT 840M is GM108.

Time to see if my prediction hold
http://forum.notebookreview.com/gaming-software-graphics-cards/739970-clevo-notebooks-800m-series-coming-out-february-2014-a-38.html#post9520639

Thanks for the news Red. Now we get to see all we need to know once GT 840M leak happens.

 

Well, some of the new series graphics cards must be new ark., Has it ever been otherwise?!

 

This is the article.

 

I wonder if 700-series (GTX 750Ti/750) is 28nm Maxwell while 800 series (GT 840M) is 20nm.

Looks like GT 840M is the only GPU using GM108 chip. If it is shipped in March, could they manage save enough 20nm wafers for it? Or is that totally unrealistic?

 

http://videocardz.com/49477/techpow...ort-geforce-gtx-titan-black-gtx-750-ti-series

750Ti seems to be running a refreshed version of GK107 - GM107. I've put another sentence that interested me in bold. They say the 840M is GM108. Interesting.

 

The M in GM stands for Maxwell. So any chips with the GM code name will be Maxwell. But it's possible that Maxwell isn't much different (architecturally) from Kepler, so all the rumors of a refresh may still be true depending on the point of view.

 

What I mean by GM107 being a refresh of GK107 is the I think it is 28nm Maxwell.

 

For now we are only sure about the gm108 of the 840m...
Nvidia can make us laugh about ourselves by making only the GT series maxwell.

 

Since the software (GPU-z) supports GM108 (GT 840M), shouldnt there be a way to extract that information from the software? The specs must be somwhere in the code right?

 

sure, but we need the source code..

 

I thought GPU-z was open source since its free. Oh well, guess we have to wait then

 

Freeware =/= FOSS.

 

790 is to come soon, after that Maxwell high end info will start to flow in.

 

What do you mean?

Good point. I think they are avoiding details about the high end Maxwell until GTX 790 have had the market alone for some time.
That said, GTX 790 isn`t in any danger of being beaten by high end single Maxwell GPU solutions anyway. It will be a beast.

 

Yes, according to the specs, 790 is a monstrous card.

About the release schedule: Titan Black as leaked in gpuz, is near the corner with no mention of 790, just yet. Titan Black wont have much of an influence on 790 but nevertheless it is being the 1 on the list.

Online retailers slowly start to add 790 product listing, which is the best piece of news at this point. With this bandwagon moving on, I would say we are ~ 1 month away from a) Maxwell release b) Maxwell leaks This is all about high end cards

 

I have never come across that term myself but I googled it and came up with this:
"Free and open-source software (FOSS) is computer software that can be classified as both free software and open source software.That is, anyone is freely licensed to use, copy, study, and change the software in any way, and the source code is openly shared so that people are encouraged to voluntarily improve the design of the software"

Source:
FOSS, Wikipedia

Guess he meant that it could either be freeware (but not open source) or freeware (and open source). i.e. "FOSS"

Edit:

Well now for my actual question, I've been thinking long and hard on what would be the best course of action.
Currently on an old computer (13.3", GT540M, I5-2410M...) and was thinking on buying a Clevo when they are launched with GT(X) 8XXM Nvidia cards but lets say they are launched here in Sweden around May and then Broadwell might be around the corner so I "have to" wait some more?

Haha if you want the latest tech you always have to wait since there is always something new around the corner I know but I was thinking until I read up on Broadwell that I would wait until Nvidia launches their 800-series GPU:s before I buy something but now if Broadwell is around the corner after their GPU:s are launched here in Sweden I don't know haha.

If I were to buy a computer today I would buy a (Clevo) Schenker XMG A503 15.6" laptop w.:
I7-4700MQ or I7-4800MQ | 8GB (2x4GB) 1600MHz 1600MHz RAM | 1TB 5400RPM HDD + 250GB Samsung EVO mSATA | GTX765 w. 2GB VRAM | Blu-Ray. That would cost me around €1,300 (exl. the mSATA SSD) which is a bit more expensive then what I originally had in mind.

THEN I am thinking "Well, the 765M seems to be soldered so if I buy the more expensive 770M I could upgrade it (since it seems to be MXM) in the future".

Edit: The above thoughts would also be applicable for 865M / 870M...

I don't know. Something of a deadline would be ESO which is launched here (and worldwide?) at 4/4-14.
If the new 8XXM-series Clevos are around the corner near that date I would of course wait but Broadwell I guess might be too much of a wait.

Sorry for ranting, what do you guys think?

 

Yes exactly. IE vs. Firefox, WinRAR vs. 7-Zip, WMP vs. MPC-HC, Maya vs. Blender, etc.

 

Brodwell is gonna be late my friend, not before Oct 2014

 

So Broadwell and Maxwell at the same time then?

/runs away/

 

And DDR4 hopefuly.

 

@TheSwede: I'd wait will end of this year when you will have Maxwell & maybe the Broadwell too that you talk of (not been following Intel news though).

 

You are wrong about Maxwell unless u talk 20nm.

 

Yep, I'm talking 20nm. Last I heard that should be coming out towards the end of the year. Yeah, forget everything on 28nm!

 

Intel started 14nm mass production just recently and they said under a conference meeting that Broadwell will be here in H2.
Meaning July >>>

 

Add that to (hopefully) 20nm Maxwell at Computex, and you have the ingredients for a great laptop.

 

Thanks for all the reply guys.

The thing is that even if things (i.e. Broadwell and Maxwell 20nm) are launched and released for consumers in other parts of the world you have to take into account the "Swedish"-effect. Basically everything tech-related takes a longer time to get here even though we are a friendly, techloving, meatball-eating and early adopting-people

Waiting until the end of the year is a long time, although if I wait until lets say May for an Nvidia 8XXM-series GPU and then I'll find out more confirmed rumors about Broadwell then I'll just have to wait. Gah.

Thinking about buying something until Broadwell & Maxwell are launched, have been thinking about the MSI GE60 w. I7-4700MQ | 8GB (2x4GB) | GT750M w. 2GB VRAM | Full-HD display for around €900 exl. the Samsung EVO 250GB mSATA.
Lets say I sell it later for around €800 - €750 which sounds reasonable when Clevo has Broadwell & Maxwell models out. Keep the mSATA SSD and smack it into the new computer.

It would mainly be for ESO and Rome II and some other games and according to notebookcheck the GT750M seems to handle Rome II in "High" on 1366x768. Although the GTX765M seems to offer a lot of higher performance (73% difference according to the same source).
And I will be playing on native 1080p. Gah. Gah and gah again.

And in regards to the GT765M then the cheapest computer would be the Clevo I mentioned earlier w. I7-4700MQ | 8GB (2x4GB) | GTX765M w. 2GB VRAM | Full-HD display for €1,100. Have no idea about the resell value but I can guess that gamers and people ITK knows it ("the worth", the brand etc.) but the average Joe would be more interested in a brand he knows as well as that the computer comes supplied with an OS.

OR simply wait for the Maxwell update and but a computer then and when Broadwell is released see if an upgrade would be worth it.

 

the pdf of roadmap is down, could anyone upload the file ?

 

I will : http://jmp.sh/b/maoe9KEMFjvrPbFtRs3V

 

@TheSwede: Bro, I live in Norway. I would had the same problem as you, but I always buy mine from the states (Except Alienware 18 I own now). Its still cheaper even if you add shipping and taxes. Plus you get the notebooks when they are released. Not 3-4 months after
Personally I wouldnt buy GE notebooks from MSI. They are garbage. Pretty bad cooling. The only notebook from MSI that is good is the GT series. Avoid the rest even though they are cheaper. Also you are missing out on the newer models coming in that will replace the GE series. They look a little better and have new chassis I think.
Note that GT 840M is Maxwell (confirmed) and GTX 860M most likely too. Even GT 840M might beat GT 750M while output less heat. GTX 860M will 100% beat GT 750M by a large margin.
Wait and see what happens during February atleast. They are rumored to launch then.
In the end, there are so many new things coming this year. New architecture from Nvidia, new CPUs from Intel and most importantly, most notebook OEMs will refresh their whole notebook lines.

@PerfectStorm:
Yup, I am aiming for notebook after CeBit as well. I think a lot of new exciting designs will be revealed then

 

Here is the first Maxwell to be released (along with GTX 750 Ti) btw


NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 detailed | VideoCardz.com

 

Is the card really that short? LOL. I love it!

 

lol yeah its a pretty cute card

GTX 650 was also very small. Not much heat and power going on there. They could probably easily build a passive cooler on it too
http://media.bestofmicro.com/V/O/352356/original/GTX-650-gigabyte-front.jpg

 

Why was my reaction instinctively to say to myself 'awwww look at it, it's so cute'?

 

Ladies and gentlemen, I bring you the first screenshot of GM107!






Comparison with GK107



Notice how big it is. Notice the core count increase. Also, GM107 atleast comes with 960 cores. So a full GM107 might be 960 cores.

 

Almost like an MXM card with a big fan sitting on top of it!

 

Because you already like cats in sunglasses lounging in a hammock! ;-)

 

Forgive me for being graphic card illiterate, is the difference between "GK" and "GM" significant and roughly how much performance increase is to be expected? and does that mean 28nm maxwell is more than just a marketing ploy?

 

GK and GM are code names for the different microarchitectures. GM is expected to be more efficient since it is newer, but we don't really know how much performance increase is from the architecture alone.

 

Got some interesting news on Mantle, details have been released on performance, and possible Battlefield 4 update today! (Although Mantle driver probably not released today). Here's the link:
AMD Mantle will benefit Lower-End CPUs, not mainstream and high-end PCs.

Looks like it's not much to get excited about if you've got a half decent Intel CPU. It's really just about removing any CPU bottlenecks, but in reality, especially on our laptops we are in most cases GPU limited, with some exceptions of course.

Another reason to go with Maxwell for the next generation I reckon!

EDIT: Although, if future games are really leveraged to take full advantage of Mantle, then I could see a bigger gap opening up with Mantle, as they start pushing the CPUs to their limits.

 

The i7-4700MQ will probably be powerful enough to not need Mantle. Otherwise, you can always upgrade to a 4800MQ, 4900MQ or 4930MX. I second Robbo:

 

Wrong thread?

 

If you're referring to mine, then maybe! But, I see it is another reason to go with the green team and their new line of GPUs, and this is a thread about upcoming NVidia GPUs. It's interesting to put it in perspective by looking at the competition - AMD & Mantle.

 

So I just picked up an alienware 17 with a 770m in it.

I waz about to order a 780m gpu for this off some seller on ebay... though if you guys are saying the 880m is right around the corner... should I wait? Is the 880m maxwell? Or just a 780m rebrand?

Also another question.. the cooler in my alienware 17 r1 that's on the 770m currently... is that the same cooler the 780m is gonna use or am I gonna have to upgrade that too? Waz kinda hoping it waz just pull off the cooler, pop out old card, insert new, get a little heat paste there, reinsert cooler and I'm good to go... or is that not gonna be the case?