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    Crysis 2 is out today in North America?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by moral hazard, Mar 22, 2011.

  1. HTWingNut

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    And Duke Nukem Forever :)
     
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    Gotta admit this is pretty funny though right? Crytek for almost 2 years telling everyone Crysis 2 will have the best graphics anyone has seen and so far on PC, the response is, yeah... not really. And then BF3 is announced and FB 2.0 is announced with DX11 only and likely a reason why many with HD4870/GTX 280s to upgrade. And then Rage is around the corner for the gameplay, smart AI. First Crysis was praised for it's unique AI where the AI doesn't know where you are all the time, but are inquisitive and you can actually play... face it, good AI doesn't mean one that can see you behind a concrete wall, but one that hears a rustle and goes to investigate and then call for help, like Crysis. Anyways, it seems there are a few a games that are taking away what Crytek probably hoped to take the crown on. Graphics not eye popping disbelief and AI not that great. Hmmm. Even on console, Crytek getting smashed with Killzone 3 on PS3 considered to be best looking FPS on console now.

    I don't about some of you, when I first saw Crysis on high settings, I was showing it to others as I thought it was nearly photo-realistic. Was hoping for the same this time around, but seems may not happen again.

    Crytek must be kicking themselves thinking, we should have gone all out again and wiped the floor with other game developer's jealousy. Instead they are just one among the many sheep.

    But things I'm excited about from Crysis 2

    From what I've read about this is still a sandbox game with large maps. I can't wait for that. Having to go down one path and being forced to follow some cut scene, really annoys me. But even the RPG games are being shoveled with linear cow dung. Crysis 2 I'm hoping will let me have fun in a sandbox again, and allow me to choose where I want to go and when. COD, forces you to go at certain times or the game just won't continue, so annoying and dumb.
     
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    BF3 is not DX11 exclusive, it is also DX10. That's why it doesn't support XP, because it only supports DX10 and DX11.
     
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    well, i have not got my game yet but how many fps would i get if u use max settings without aa and res 1080p?rig is below:

    clevo x7200
    480m gtx sli
    3.0ghz cpu i 950
     
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    has anybody else used steam and had an issue with the preorder bonus crap? I entered my code for it in the website and it rejected it.
     
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    ...

    Was it needed? Isn't it obvious that it will max with no problems? :rolleyes:

    Some nice 40+ FPS
     
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    How do the graphics compared to the Crysis and Crysis Warhead?

    How is the multiplayer compared to the demo?
     
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    I also want to know this. I'm on the limbo whether I should buy this or not.
    I have 200€ to spare : 100€ are already reserved for BF3 and UC3. The other 100€ I'm still deciding whether they should go to L.A. Noire and Portal 2, or Crysis 2 and Portal 2.

    Any recommendations?
     
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    Yep. I have based the tweaks off the demo, and I did heavy research to help the community :)
     
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    ok,does this game have slowdowns like crysis 1 or its smooth all the way in this game?
     
  13. darth voldemort

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    I hadn't really thought about that until now but they did significantly improve that... my fps are almost completely within a range of about 10 fps... even when you go outside fps doesnt really drop. I think because they dont have 4 million triangles rendering an entire 3 mile beach trip including leaves of trees.

    or was it found to be 4 hundred million?
     
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    oh so you have crysis 2 now? how did your laptop fare on tht game?
     
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    1080p very high graphics( there is also extreme) at betw 40 and 50 fps usually.
     
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    and your graphic card is just 5870 mobility only?
     
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    rot112 El Rompe ToTo

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    Yea word, i have a gtx 460m OCed a bit and it should run about the same as his. But it's too bad im saving money for some aggressive inline skates. :(
     
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    The AI is REALLY dumb in SP, it would be so much more immersive if they had a brain. Oh well, I spent $60 on it might as well try to enjoy it.
     
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    Yeah it can kinda be like whack-a-mole a little bit.
     
  20. mushishi

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    So much for the class leading AI. What is wrong with Crytek?

    Best graphics ever seen? Far from it on PC, and even on the PS3, PS3 fanoyboys claiming KZ3 looks better. And now the AI is lacking also? I was thinking on hard difficulty the only thing that would keep this game interesting would be a smart AI.
     
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    I'm glad I didn't buy it. Maybe I'll pick in up from Steam someday when it is priced at what it's really worth. Like $7.50.
     
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    I'm asking this for a friend, he wants to get this game but is a max-out maniac. Will a 9600 GT (GDDR3 Version), 8gb RAM, T9900 be able to play it on 1080p? I vote for no, but want to know what do you think as well.
     
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    nope!

    /10char
     
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    Cool, what do you think she will be able to play it at?
     
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    9600GT? Try maybe 720p with medium.
     
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    The settings between the 3 presets are almost the same except for MUCH MORE Motion blur, bloom and higher res shadows in Extreme and Very high.
     
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    Watched some multi-player gameplay on the PC on youtube.

    Something is missing. Destruction is non-existent. I remember that being the big feature in Crysis 1 that everything was destructible, other than rocks, which is always odd. Same thing in BC2, can destroy a building, but can't destroy rock. Whatever, in these videos, I don't even see a desk being destroyed.

    So odd. I guess Crysis 2 eliminated AI, class leading graphics and physics?

    One thing I thought they would improve on was variety of weapons. But that didn't happen. That was my only gripe with Crysis, you pretty much either used a futuristic Scar that had no resemblance to current day Scar, and some odd looking Korean rifle. Disappointing to see this was passed on to Crysis 2 and the MP. Everyone is using the Scar. Also a lot of videos that have MP in the title are just campaign, some people don't know what MP is?

    Although it is fun to see videos from people with GTX 580s, haha, what a waste of money. I doubt even BF3 will give them their money's worth.

    Everything be so futuristic in this game, nice to know the Scar and ACOG (is that right) red dot sight remains the same :D Just saying they could have used some creativity with bullets and the sight. MP you have classes for various guns. What happened to Crysis 1 where on the fly you can attach a Sniper Scope, use single shot firing mode and snipe, then use red dot on close combat, and then use combat scope with silencer and head off into the jungle for mid-range combat? That kind of innovation is too much for consoles and MP?
     
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    I am a crysis fan but what I am reading here doesn't give the new game much credit. Gets released in the UK tomorrow but doubt I will be getting it! Consoles really will end PC gaming as we "knew" it back in the day...
     
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    Ok I saw the game first hand recently. And here are some quick impressions.

    Console: The graphic options are limited to presets. Which was odd. The aim assist is on by default, you have to turn that off. The FOV is the standard 55, like on consoles, so will have to find a way to change that to 87 for PC.

    Graphics:

    It's probably the best looking DX9 game I've seen. That I can say. BC2 being DX11 looks a little better, more realistic. Crysis 1 being DX10 also looks better.

    Crysis 2 vs Stalker COP. I think Stalker COP is the best looking engine right now. But Stalker art and detail is just lacking. That's why I would rank BC2, and Crysis 1 above Stalker. But Stalker still has an edge on Crysis 2, but Crysis 2 models and detail is much better. But that just has to do with budget, Crytek and also Crytek having probably some of the best artists in the game industry.

    Crysis 2 vs Crysis 1: Well Crysis 1 was no holds bar and wins. Crysis 2 went overboard on the lighting, I think if they toned that down and put a leash on it, it may be better. Also the coloring is bit a florescent.

    Crysis 2 vs BC2: BC2 looks amazing, and it's probably interchangeable with Crysis 1. But Crysis 2 facial models is MUCH BETTER. I have to give Crysis 2 the edge on that. Fire and some lighting I also have to give to Crysis 2. But BC2 looks for the balanced appearance, it just looks great. Smoke is excellent in BC2 also, but BC2 went overboard on that. So in that sense, Crysis 2 does a better job on that also. BC2 it's so overwhelming that I pretty much become blind.

    Crysis 2 vs COD series: No contest, Crysis 2 wins.

    Crysis 2 vs Metro 2033: I really don't care what people say. The highest detail, shader 5.0 and extreme tessellation on feces, well it's still feces. Crysis 2 wins.

    So anyways, that's my quick impression of Crysis 2. I don't know about gameplay.

    Oh BTW on the Multi-Player, Crysis 2 uses Gamespy. WOW. I didn't think anyone would use Gamespy after Borderlands, that just needs to die. It needs to be relegated to the forgotten pile that no one wants to remember.
     
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    And day three since release the multiplayer is STILL broken. Class.
     
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    Game runs like crap for me. Doesn't even compare to medium-high 1600x900 Crysis at low 1280x720. Guess I'll have to wait for the patches.
     
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    What's your system?
     
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    Indeed... Runs worse than Crysis 1...

    So long for "nice optimization" :rolleyes:
     
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    VAIO-FW550F
    4650MR
    C2D 2.53
    4GB RAM

    I know the GPU is not very good... but damn. I barely get 30 fps at low/gamer settings (720p), pretty much the same I get at medium settings (1600x900) in the first game.

    And of course, the game itself feels worse, and the movement less accurate.
     
  35. mushishi

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    Gamer settings are not low settings. Just happens it's the lowest Crytek wanted to go. I think Gamer setting in Crysis 2 is better than high for 95% of games I've played. BC2 and a few others might be exception.
     
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    I'm not sure why developers when porting to PC choose not to provide save option. It's really annoying, so if you just want to play for a few minutes, it's pointless since you can't save.
     
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    Yeah, save anywhere is a requirement. Plus checkpoints can be a decent ways apart. I was miffed when there was once that looked like a checkpoint, but apparently was not, and had to redo the whole darn thing after I left and came back. That needs to be patched in.
     
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    Ok this is weird u guys are saying it is worse performance than crysis 1 for you guys, but I sware I am getting alot better performance and looking better than crysis 1 at the same time... or maybe i just had an unsolved problem with crysis 1... who knows? I also don't like the distance between checkpoints.

    I didn't like how long it takes to rank up in bad company 2, about 5 or more hours of play time at rank 30... I think crysis 2 did better because it looks like you level up alot faster because it's better to me to get to max rank early and then play that way than to never reach max rank... but if you disagree I can see where you're coming from.

    IMPORTANT: If anybody has used steam to download the game and experienced an error where it said your cd key was already being used, try this fix. Go into an empty server, then go back to single player mode. then go back to multiplayer and enter code again. This worked for me from a variation on a fix i found somewhere else...
     
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    What resolution and settings are you running at? Thanks.

    If it looks as if my laptop can run it at max settings with at least 1680x1050 res, I'm getting this for my PC instead of the PS3.

    Gah, I still have nightmares trying to get Crysis to run back then.
     
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    I run it at 2nd highest graphics and 1920x1080p, and get far more than enough fps, so with ur rig you could most likely pull of extreme with 1680x1050 with more than 30 fps. I mean you have more ram than me, but I think that mainly just makes it more stable fps. You also might not have overclock on ur GPU. I'm not 100% complete sure this is just my opinion, others are welcome to chime in.

    Just read your sig again after posting and you have 1920x1080p screen as well as me but you want to run in 1680x1050? that is the wrong ratio. Try 1600x900.

    Also, this is just for single player. In multiplayer I turned the graphics down 1 level and get like same or better fps than single player, I doubt you could do extreme 1600x900 multiplayer, but maybe.
     
  41. sama98b

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    Runs fine in 1920x1080 .. medium settings aa/af/phy turned down. (
    Thanks for the configuration editor)
    For my eyesight it's good enough wouldn't notice bigg diff if turned up on this bad lcd that g51j has. (my desktop is working on different job reason not using it..)
     
  42. mushishi

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    This is how I would review Crysis 2

    Crysis and Crysis 2 are one squandered opportunities after another, from which the game could be a memorable, over the top, SciFi mayhem, instead it just becomes one of the many pedigrees of boring tactical shooters.

    The Crysis 2 trailers feature music from Trent Reznor, if it isn't him, whoever it is needs to give all their earnings to him for ripping him off.

    But the music in game is the same as the I would hear in a dramatic war tragedy movie. Crysis 2 went too far with the cinematic approach. I think BioWare, CryTek and others like them have forgotten they are game developers. Games are supposed to make you feel powerful and pumped, and having a lot of fun. Instead of emotional and symphonic music as you are plowing through the aliens heading towards your checkpoint, the alien hives etc, have Trent Reznor screaming how ridiculous you are, and the aliens are your breakfast? As your Nano Suit is assimilating with the Aliens, instead of the typical techy music, why not have industrial beats pump up that scene a bit? What the Nano Suit is doing is powerful, the music should have complemented that.

    While I was playing Crysis 2 on hard difficulty, I did not feel powerful, since I did 95% of my killings with a gun. But Bulletstorm, I felt like a beast. Sliding, slamming enemies, whipping them into electric fences, whipping them into cactus, whipping them in barbs, and then booting their faces in, kicking them in the groin, tossing 10 in the air and blowing 10 up simultaneously with a power shot.

    CryTek I just felt so weak. It's not that I die in just a few hits on hard, that's fine. But all my guns and moves just seem... weak. The sneak behind and melee move is too tactical. This is over the head scifi. They should have it where you use your maximum strength and crush the aliens head with your bare hands and then snap it's spine like the hulk, but all it done ninja fast. Not slow and cinematic, something visceral and gorey without prejudice. Rawr, DIE, I AM A WEAPON!!! Or grab the alien by the head and with a massive knee to the back, crushing the alien, and then dropping it on the floor, stomp on its head, crushing it, all done within 1 second. It should be fast, powerful and awesome. Instead I have sneak behind and shove a puny dagger up it's head... If I want to do this, I'd just play COD or any of the other million tactical shooters. Crytek has an amazing IP on this incredible body suit that makes the player a weapon and they wasted it big time.

    Crysis 2 lacks iconic imagery and moments. Epic Games does this right. They go over the head with their IP AAA titles. But they created memorable and iconic moments. The chainsaw gun in Gears of War, I never played the game and even I think that is . I laugh and giggle just at the thought of it. Bulletstorm is one after another. Unreal Tournament jumping off walls, double jumps and turning opponents into puddles, iconic. Crysis and Crysis 2 lacks all of that. You have this amazing idea, but in the end it's just tactical shooter where you really aren't any more powerful than a British SAS soldier with a M4A Carbine Rifle with extra armor. The over the head SciFi opportunities squandered.

    Be the weapon? Yeah... my weapon was a gun 95% of the time. If I want to be a weapon, I'll play Bulletstorm, a rampage of mayhem. Crysis 2 is a kitten in comparison. Bulletstorm characters would destroy a Nano Suit, then defecate on it, fart, and then make an obscene joke about it. Crysis 2 would play an emotional music and then cut to a cinamatic mini movie, trying to make me feel emotional. But then Bulletstorm's gigantic boot would fly through to kick Crysis 2 in the groin, then in the face, then impaled on a spike, and lastly pulverized by a power shot. Then I laugh and scream, now I'm a weapon!

    Why is Batman such a popular superhero? Arguable I think the best superhero. Because he is a weapon. Sure his suit has nifty gadgets etc, but he is powerful, unstoppable, and very stealthy like a ninja. He is the weapon, not his gadgets, of course no guns. Crysis 2 could have done something similar to make him a more memorable, and iconic hero. Of course the Nano Suit is the star in Crysis 2, that's fine, but make the suit the killing machine, weapon, not the guns. Why do I need bigger guns to kill bigger enemies? Why not jack up the power upgrades on the weapon that allow for burst abilities just for bosses? Instead he is just random dude in a suit that uses guns, and runs around like a Special Forces soldier.
     
  43. darth voldemort

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    Mushishi, you are right on most of that, but I don't understand why you die in 3 hits in hard mode, and why you only kill people with melee in stealth mode? I first played the game in medium difficulty and I only used a weapon like 10% of the time. the rest was jumping on peoples heads, pushings cars, throwing things, and face to face melee. Then, I played in hard mode which I am not done with yet, and I had to use weapons more. about 40% of the time was with weapons. But in armor mode, which is the only time i get hit, it takes like 10 hits to kill you... What I am trying to say is that you choose your play style in the game. Maybe you understood totally how to do non gun type combat in bulletstorm, but you didn't like how it was in crysis 2, but somebody else might still like the melee in crysis 2 ,etc.
     
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    does Crysis 2 run CF properly? I remember reading that the beta build leak didn't utilize CF.
     
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    Running Crysis 2 on my Gateway p7805u and I can run the game on Very High settings @1280x720p with smooth frame rates around 45 fps. I like the resolution since it goes well with my Acer5630 3d projector that has that native resolution. I just got the configurator and I'll tweak around with that until I find something that looks better than Very High, although right now I am pretty happy with that. Btw I tried Extreme and it runs around 30fps which is not bad, but the graphics drop imo and look more "Consolish" in that setting with overused bloom and other blurring effects.
     
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    Check out the latest rumor with Crysis 2.

    Why Crytek delays DX11

    Personally I'm not sure what to think of it, but probably not true. I'm not even confident that Crytek will release a DX11 patch.

    I think Nvidia paid the big bucks to make sure Crysis 2 3D ran best possible on their GPU. Maybe DX11 if it is released.
     
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    Thanks. That's pretty helpful - it gives me some idea on what performance to expect. About the resolution, yeah I think 1600x900 would be the correct res to run the game in. :)

    I don't really play multiplayer so the SP performance is my main concern. :)
     
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    Phistachio A. Scriabin

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    @himura If you are looking for an awesome, fun, addictive SP campaign, look no more. 3rd day, and didn't complete the SP in normal! It's so fun, I mean, the nanosuit is really fun to use. It's the first game that actually made me addicted lol, and that's a good thing ;)

    MP is also amazing, and fun! I totally recommend this game!
     
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    WHAAAA...

    Just a list of what you can do with the suit :

    Q - Armor
    E - Cloak
    Shift + W - Run
    Hold space - Super jump
    M2 ( aim ) + Shift - Hold your breath in all weapons ( SP only )
     
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