Cyberpunk 2077 chat thread.

Yeah played it the other night.

It was a blast and then had to uninstall it due to the graphics bug.

Will wait for an update to fix the graphics issues.

Hehe

 

How is that? Were you able to get into a closed beta? Still not released yet, correct?

 

I mostly feel the same way, story> gameplay> graphics.

 

Nahh.
Just pulling ya leg with the updates.
Hehe

 

Don't get me wrong, if the game is good having a great graphics engine supporting RT and a studio that can do some great art direction to go along with it can only make it better. From what I've seen we don't really have to worry about this.

 

Im a big gamer, just as much as the rest, but I dunno, maybee others might enjoy this more then I. I only am a PC gamer, I feel like it will be some what of a console port to PC. Not to be a downer for the fans here. Ill buy it, but unless it does something for me I will probably play it a few times and it will sit in my steam games list like 90% of the games I buy and not be played after a few sessions. Games certainly in my eyes are not what they once were for the PC.
Im big competitive gamer tho, looking forward to other titles. I will give it a go though. I do like open world games, maybee that will spark something with me to keep me playing.

 

It will be just as much a console port as Witcher 3 was, which was a fantastic game.

CB2077 is about the farthest thing from that.

MAKE UP YOUR MIND.. lol

 

I am probably a horrible gamer in the minds of the people that like to refer to themselves as a "hardcore gamer" LOL. My interests are very narrow and limited and I lose interest in a matter of minutes if it doesn't capture my attention during the opening cut scenes. I am not competitive at all, despise online multiplayer anything and do not like anything that requires strategy, accumulation of materials and crafting, problem-solving or dialogue with AI characters. I also have a hard time staying engaged in open-world titles and prefer a linear game where my participation is primarily nothing but the execution of as many acts of violence against the AI characters as possible. If I find a weapon or a particular melee move that works effectively for me I am happy to play through the entire game exacting destruction using that one weapon and one melee move from start to finish. I also love single-player god mode and infinite ammo/weapon cheats and use them when they are available.

 

oh ma gawd this looks sick

 

Gameplay looks quite GTA-ish... which is not necessarily bad.

That flying scene looks like it's some sort of automated travel. I do wish they'll have player controlled flying cars...

 

Graphics are ridiculous and we still haven't seen it with the ray-tracing activated.

I'm so glad this will support DLSS 2.0, my 2080 is grateful too.

 

bah i just have a 1060..im sure ill be able to run console level and have it still look nice..no ray tracing but gawd damn does this game look good now

 

Yeah I just want to play it, if my 2070 isn't up to the task to enable RT it's OK I can live.

 

The graphics look too cartoonish to me, very much like GTA. Some of the videos I have seen look better than others and it's hard to form an opinion looking at a video sometimes. But, it does not seem the developer was aiming for a lot of pop or photo-realism. Not saying they look terrible, only that the cartoonish vibe of the graphics is pretty strong. I do realize that some people probably like that about it.

That video posted by @JRE84 (above) is probably one of the best examples of impressive graphics for this title that I have seen so far. Less of a GTA cartoonish look in that one.

 

the character meshes look rounded and un realistic, but that lighting and those shaders...if only it didn't look so gta v as mr fox pointed out

 

IMO the graphics and art direction is representative of a AAA level graphically intense open world RPG. I'm really more interested in how the complete package comes together to form an enjoyable game in a genre that I like. I mean I like games that have lower quality graphics like Dusk (yes I know not even a game in the same ballpark aside from first-person perspective, but representative of "potato" graphics.. which reminds me I need to get Amid Evil, they added RTX... lets talk about how New Blood is killing it..) so to me the total package of game play and immersion is more important than focusing on the raw features of the graphics engine as long as it serves the vision. To me the art direction is more important than the graphics themselves. If the art direction is great, graphics bells and whistles can only enhance it to a higher level when they work together (Metro: Exodus and Control with RTX come to mind).

I'm just saying, for what I expect to get out of Cyberpunk 2077, the graphics look great and I'm not too concerned. Even if the final product is different to make a playable and performant game it will still be fine. They learned from the Witcher 3 "downgrade" overblown reaction and added a huge "PRE-RELEASE, NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF FINAL GAME APPEARANCE" on every reveal so far. So it seems they realized not everyone understands what it takes to make an actual playable open world game and that early footage is sometimes pie-in-the-sky features and assets while they are trying to optimize. Building a game to make all these systems come together to form a great experience is HARD. But they learned a hard lesson about how to market to the general public that doesn't spend all day building games.

 

The graphical fidelity and level of detail look insane. It reminds me of an open-world Deus Ex: Mankind Divided, which IMO was one of the best-looking games of this generation. The art direction is gorgeous too--the neon, lens flares, neo-noir aesthetic have the Blade Runner vibe down pat. I'm so hyped and will definitely be building a new Zen 3 and Ampere/RDNA2 based rig just for this game.

 

rdna2 here I come.....**** nvidia

 

What's the story with this rdna2? I've been with nvidia for over 25 years now but if it's something noteworthy, I'd gladly jump ships. Would anyone mind to give me a nutshell on the situation (not that I'm lazy to read around but I would like to hear from you guys).

 

At this point, it is only hype. Measurements by critical end-users and real evidence are pending at this time. Only time will tell if it actually turns out to be awesome. Even if it is an improvement, it still might not be as good as the alternative.

So, at this point don't fire until you see the red in their bloodshot eyes.

 

mid range rdna 2 = 2080ti

amd might have something

 

Lets wait for shipping products from both teams before we make statements we can't back up with data. This isn't the WCCFTech comment section.

 

Indeed. It's good to have hope and optimism. Better to have evidence. As much as possible, I try to avoid giving my money to people making promises and only pay for results. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

 

Is there even a pre-order for these? Not sure we can give out money for promises yet. Hey at least nVidia delivered with DLSS 2.0 and doing the hard work of paving the groundwork for RT when they knew half of the PCMR was going to attack them relentlessly for it.

 

Hahaha, yeah, no. I'm not sure what AMD has ever shown you, to make you confident such a pipe dream will come to fruition.

Furthermore, AMD's main issue is that DLSS 2.0 is such black magic that not having an answer to it makes their entire product line unattractive. Then their ray-tracing technology is likely to be less advanced than Nvidia's, especially with Ampere said to significantly decrease the performance hit.

Not buying into RTX is just shooting yourself in the foot to spite your own interests.

 

Not yet, only referring to when. Early adoption, especially for hardware, is not very intelligent. I used to be an early adopter and I eventually figured out I was just being foolish by throwing my money at things that looked (or got marketed as being) a whole lot better than what they actually are. The best approach is to not believe most of what you see in "professional" reviews and observe enthusiasts with interests, knowledge, and skills that match or exceed your own as they spend their money and watch what happens. Better for them to waste their money than for me to waste mine, LOL. I also figured out that being one of the first didn't make me one of the best. Sometimes being fashionably late allows you to be more calculated and ultimately mop the floor with the bodies of those that ran in yelling "take my money" and waving dollar bills in the air.

 

I needed a card for my eGPU at the time the RTX cards were out, standing the 2070 up against the 1080 it seemed like a no contest given the prices and being able to toy around with RTX. Ended up being the right decision in the long run just for DLSS 2.0, which I didn't expect. No regrets really. I'm going to be eyeing the 3000 series hard though after it launches. Definitely going to wait for the dust to settle with the new volley of upper tier cards from both AMD and nVidia though.

You do have a 2080Ti however, so.... you bought the most luxury and lowest dollar per frame value proposition of the 1st gen RT cards. But I know you're a benchmarker first and foremost, which means high wattage CPUs and the best GPU you can get to bump those scores.

 

actuallly I got that from jayz two cents on you tube he claims and many other people claims the midrange rdna 2 gpu found in the xbox series x will be as fast as the 2080ti at just over 12 tera flops... cool that you guys jump to conclusions and assume im just dreaming







and linus thinks it will be only as fast as a 2070 super which is still very impressive



too be honest there is about a thousand or so videos showing the midrange rdna 2 gpu being equal to the 2080ti... @Kevin @hfm @Mr. Fox

 

Why consider 2-year old 2080Ti? The 3000 series Ampere cards are coming in the next few months. nVidia is already winding down 2080-2080Ti production in preparation.

Also, no one has seen what an RDNA2 based card for PC is going to perform like, if they say they do they are lying. AMD has announced nothing.

 

Yes, indeed. Benching is first and foremost to me. That's why I am shunt modding and using a vBIOS with a 2000W power limit.

Gaming is important to me, but I am happy with the notebook 2060 for gaming. It's good enough. No point in spending more on gaming than necessary. It doesn't really yield as much benefit and doesn't really add a lot of value as long as the experience is smooth and the framerate is high enough.

I am not saying you're jumping to conclusions. Now, maybe some of the people in those videos are. The truth is, we don't know what we don't know. What I am saying is until we have it in the hands of end-users that are able and willing to put it through the sort of hellacious wringer that performance enthusiasts do (not just gamers and yes-men) we really shouldn't put too much stock in the speculation of "professional" reviewers that are required to find something positive to say if they want to keep receiving products to review and keep making money. The people that will give it proper real-world testing don't give a rat's butt whether the OEM or ODM likes what they say or not. We've got nothing to lose in totally flaming a broken piece of crap into oblivion. But, I guarantee you none of the people in those YouTube videos are going to rip Intel, AMD, NVIDIA, Asus, EVGA, Gigabyte, MSI or any other OEM a new posterior orifice for selling a piece of crap. And, even if they do say something negative it is going to be politically correct and muted. It's not going to draw blood and cause crappy products to rot on store shelves. They're going to find an excuse somewhere for it and qualify it as having a legitimate place somewhere in the world. If the diehard enthusiast end-users are doing it, our goal is to draw blood and cause sales to fail if it doesn't pass the test. We want it to go down in flames and will gleefully condemn it as being worthy of death. That's all I am saying.

TL;DR - Let's wait and let the fat lady sing, and then we'll critique her style, presentation, and range. If she doesn't make the cut, then we'll make her ashamed for even showing her face on the stage.

 

It seems that amd is just using CAS to combat DLSS 2.0, as we are seeing in death stranding.

 

I have been gaming with amd and Nvidia for a very long time and always seem to have more glitches with amd..not sure why and I'm sure the gaming community would argue this

 

I just wish it would be out already so I can play it on my crappy GTX 1080. Sigh...

 

1080 is still a capable card, I think you'll be fine as long as you keep your expectations in check. It seems to do better than an RTX 2060 in nearly every case they are compared. Not being able to use DLSS 2.0 would be the only wild card. I think you'll be OK though.

 

I was sighing because I want to play the game, not the card Personally I think it's going to be fine but if not I'll upgrade although that wont happen until things start to play out (more) with ampere. I had always planned on skipping the 20 series, the timing when I bought the 1080 was clearly going to see it getting a little weak right about the time the 20 series was getting kicked to the curb for the next thing and made an upgrade road map choice back then that I have to wear my daddy pants and live with now. I hate daddy pants.

 

By the time this game comes out. I'll already have forgot about it. Oh well. I'll play when its $5.

 

November isn't that far away...

 

Unless it gets delayed again

 

Exactly. Although I saw a post saying 2021 already but I think it was a troll.

 

It's going to make the November release. I SAID IT"S GOING TO MAKE THE NOVEMBER RELEASE DATE, YOU GOT THAT CDR? Dont make me get all medieval on your asses!

 

I wouldn't believe that unless CDPR announced it, and they will announce it very loudly publicly. They're good like that.

 

I heard they are not entirely happy with melee combat...

 

I've still got plenty of other games to play. So if they delay it... so be it..

 

Ditto. My backlog is so huge that at this point I can wait without a problem.
I expect Horizon Zero Dawn will carry me well into September.

 

Ok.... If you're from CDR reading this you should know the people above me are on drugs and you should entirely discount the spawn of their addled minds.

 

yeah I was wrong as per usual! this game visually is looking unreal and sureal. it no longer looks like the characters are made of plastic im thinking its the sub surface scattering being used. gameplay wise I think its cool that the makers of witcher are doing a fps game. should be out of this world. i'll hold my breath on crysis remastered but at least we have this and MSFS 2020


The Proof I was wrong



and a must watch if your interested.....this game is LOOKING GREAT



and another one I watched that has some pretty amazing opinions.

 

They just released this one a few days back, life paths and weapons both get looked at in greater detail than has been seen previously. This also has within the latest actual in game visuals released so far and as described above they are significantly better than the stuff shown at the official announcement.

 

I haven't been watching any of these night city wire videos, seems like I should just watch them both now!

 

yeah the graphics look alot better now. it went from xbox 360 esque to ps5 level

 

Super excited to see Refused doing SAMURAI... The Shape of Punk To Come is one of my desert island album picks..