Fallout 76, Hitman 2, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, and Battlefield 5 FLOPPED and Now HALF OFF!

And millions play Fortnite and voted for Hitler.
You can't trust people!

 

Its not a 'bad' game, but its nowhere near as good as New Vegas.

 

It's not an NBR thing. While FO4 sales were good, it's easily agreed it's the worst in the series since FO3 rebooted FO series.

 

I don't know, I personally did not like new vegas as much as FO4. and yes you can't trust people some pretty good points here

 

Same here. I don't understand why. Everyone kept telling me how awesome NV is. I did start playing but it just didn't draw me in. On the other hand I absolutely loved FO3 and 4. Spent many many hours with them.

I want to give it a shot again. I'm sure there are some mods to bring it 'up-to-date' a bit.

 

NV has more deeper quest and dialogue system, better RPG mechanics, karma, interesting characters, etc., basically it has everything a good RPG makes.
FO4 has... well, dialogue wheel with four "yes" options and a build mode with a UI which makes me want to commit a suicide (playing on PC with KBAM).

 

Right, that's true. I skipped almost completely the build thing.

 

That's because you FO4 was made with a different demographic in mind.

I'm not a FO fan myself, but even I know the original FO was a rich RPG game. FO3 and NV followed along that heritage. Where it gave players huge amounts of customization and choices to create a character of their own. These were games for people truly interested in role playing, the RPG.

FO4, c'mon, it's huge departure. Simplified responses, simplified choices, often meaningless choices, choices added for the sole purpose of adding choices. They opted for the idiotic dumbed down for the masses 4 choice dialogue wheel system. There are always 4 choices, regardless of how dumb and stupid and pointless it may be. Yes, No, Sarcasm, Pursuasion, sarcasm pointless/useless, persuasion in effective, no also pointless. For the most part there is just one choice good, regardless of what you choose it's just good, or you can just end the quest/dialogue at no. Simplified story lines. Simplified character customization. It was dumbed down until it was accessible to the lowest denominator. There is no question FO4 is the best selling of the FO games, and there is a reason for it. Bethesda turned to maximizing profits over keeping the FO game as true to it's origin and to what their loyal fans expected.

If you can't understand why FO4 is hated so much by FO fans, I dunno what to tell you. I think it's really clear why FO4 is HATED, not disliked, HATED by fans who loved FO3 and NV. What they got was a game that was meant for you, not for them. I'm completely unsurprised you like FO4 and do not like NV. NV was made for the hardcore FO fans. FO4 was made for you and I, I'm included as I'm not interested or need a deep RPG experience that NV goes so far in depth with.

 

yeah I won't argue New vegas was deeper. but cmon FO4 was huge, I mean huge.....some sacrifices had to be made

 

That was really well put... but I still throughly enjoyed FO 3, NV, and 4. Not really sure what was up with 76 though lol

 

Bethesda's Todd Howard Talks Disastrous Fallout 76 Launch, Claims It's A Success "Millions Playing"!
LegacyKillaHD
Published on Mar 31, 2019
Bethesda's Todd Howard finally addressed the disastrous launch for Fallout 76, claiming "its done very well" & millions are playing!

 

Bethesda Upsets Fallout 76 Players by Monetizing Non-Cosmetic Items Despite Past Promises
YongYea
Published on Apr 5, 2019
SOURCE 1: https://bethesda.net/en/article/6eQmV...
SOURCE 2: https://www.reddit.com/r/fo76/comment...
SOURCE 3: https://www.reddit.com/r/fo76/comment...
SOURCE 4: https://www.gamespot.com/articles/fal...

 

Apparently they are adding them because people were clamoring for them. I'm sure this was the plan all along, since I'm also sure people were probably getting tired of repairing their stuff some annoyingly time consuming way. I'm sure they just waited until they could say: "That's a great idea, we're glad you guys thought of this. Here it is $$$$$$$$$."

 

People stopped buying the game and cosmetic items, so Bethesda needs to find a new source of income for this game, p2w items being obvious choice ;-)

 

This video explains, in detail, how modern games are less interesting and less challenging.
youtu.be/jPqwDGXxLhU?t=122

 

This video is wrong.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikka...uch-harder-than-dark-souls-or-bloodborne/amp/

 

That is not a video. You did not even watch the video I linked to.

 

I did watch the video. The person in it is rambling about Thief being worse than previous ones and also about game industry in general. While it is true that Thief was much worse than previous ones in terms of everything - this does not apply to all modern games.

 

First you say, the video is wrong.
Next you say, you agree with the video.
Stop contradicting yourself.

No one is saying it applies to all modern games.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

 

The author of this video is generalizing about the WHOLE " games industry", that it is " only regressed and stagnated" (this is his direct quote), that "this is what frustrates me about gaming industry today" and other similar wording. He doesn't say only Thief has "regressed and stagnated" and he doesn't mention plenty of examples which show that "gaming industry" has not "stagnated and regressed". This is why I said I disagree.

 

You disagree because of what he did not say?? That's funny.
You are using the "Not all" fallacy.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Not_all
Not all (also known as Not all X) is a turn of phrase that attempts to force unnecessary "nuance" into a subject that already has nuance, either by:

1. Deflecting fully specific criticism by pretending it's actually quite unspecific (see first form), or
2. Insisting that you need not be specific yourself when dishing out criticism to others (see second form)

The Not all fallacy is employed in the hopes of shutting down conversation by making the opponent appear to lack all nuance.

 

Meh, there are still plenty of good games around these days.

 

The Fall of 76
Internet Historian
Published on May 4, 2019
Bunker down and pray for updates.

 

For those of you that purchased the Fallout 76 Power Armor T51b head gear at GameStop for $149.99, this notice is for you:

United States CONSUMER PRODUCT SAFETY COMMISSION
Chronicle Recalls Power Armor Collectible Helmets Due to Risk of Mold Exposure (Recall Alert)
https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/2019/C...ets-Due-to-Risk-of-Mold-Exposure-Recall-Alert

T-51b Power Armor Collectible Helmet
Name of product: Power Armor Collectible Helmets
Hazard: Mold can be present on the fabric insert inside the helmet, posing a risk of respiratory or other infections in individuals with compromised immune systems, damaged lungs or an allergy to mold.
Remedy: Refund
Recall date: September 19, 2019
Units: About 20,000

Consumer Contact:
GameStop at 800-883-8895 from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. ET Monday through Friday, email at [email protected] with “Product Recall” as the email subject, or online at www.GameStop.com and click on the “Recall” link at the top of the page for more information.

This is the photo of the affected Helmet at the United States CONSUMER PRODUCT SAFETY COMMISSION web page, and there is another almost the same Silver Helmet that came in the Collectors Edition of Fallout 76, and there is some confusion as to whether it is also affected:


There is some confusion as to which Collectors Helmet is which, and if they both are affected... YongYea tries to clarify the confusion.

Fallout 76 Helmets Recalled Due To Health/Mold Risk By US Safety Commission
YongYea
Published on Sep 24, 2019
SOURCE 1: https://www.dualshockers.com/fallout-76-power-armor-helmet-mold-recall/ <- Currently down
SOURCE 2: https://www.polygon.com/2019/9/24/20881720/fallout-76-gamestop-helmet-recall-mold
SOURCE 3: https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/2019/C...ts-Due-to-Risk-of-Mold-Exposure-Recall-Alert#


Pinned by YongYea
YongYea 11 hours ago (edited)
"I see why Bethesda sent me the Fallout 76 Power Armor edition as a gift now... it's all a conspiracy designed to eliminate the YouTube provocateur."

Cyb3r A1i3n 7 hours ago
"Nuka-Cola Rum: Undrinkable
T-51 Power Armor Helmet: Unwearable
Fallout 76: Unplayable"

VirgilMustDie3x 4 hours ago
"How depressing would it be if the mold virus from the last of us happened because of a ****ty fallout 76 helmet!"

Even the 'Fallout 76' collectibles have issues
A wearable helmet is being recalled over a mold risk.
Kris Holt, @krisholt 12h ago
https://www.engadget.com/2019/09/24/fallout-76-helmet-recall-mold/

"...The recall only impacts the red, Nuka Cola-themed T-51b Power Armor Collectible Helmet sold exclusively at GameStop, not the ones from Bethesda's own Fallout 76 Power Armor Edition."

 

An update about the recall of the moldy helmut:

" Update (Sept. 25): After our article was published, a representative from Chronicle Collectibles reached out to let us know that of the 20,000 Nuka Cola-themed helmets that were manufactured, only 32 were sold. It says that all of those customers were directly notified about the recall. All 20,000 units have been recalled."

Fallout 76 Helmet Drama Hilarious Conclusion | Anthem | Mario Kart Tour | Red Dead 2 PC & More!
Laymen Gaming
Streamed live on Sep 27, 2019
The Laymen look back at the week that was, with a particular focus on the smaller news items that might have flown under the radar.

 

Lol:
Fallout F&*^ YOU First

 

It's like Beth missed people talking crap about them and said: "It's almos anniversary of FO76, and people forgot all about it. With EGS, GR BP, Anthem, etc. out there people no longer talk crap abou us or FO76. We need to do something, fast, so that people would start talking crap about us again!"

I guess there is no good or bad publicity, just publicity...

 

Fallout 76 subscription service? For what?? Lies apparently?

IMAGINE PAYING A MONTHLY SUBSCRIPTION FOR FALLOUT 76. LIKE....IMAGINE!!!
Laymen Gaming
Published on Oct 24, 2019
Lamon Gamon meme review. Fallout 76 is the meme that keeps on giving...Thanks Bethesda.. we appreciate you.


Bethesda's Lies Haunt Them As Fallout 76's Worst Scam Belly-Flops
Laymen Gaming
Published on Oct 24, 2019
Fallout Meme review continues with reports of the features in the laughable $99 yearly subscription to Failout 69 is full of bugs and not all what is seems...

 

Its funny because playstation owes its early success too none other then tomb raider. First mainstream successful 3rd person game, next to mario.

 

Skill Up part of the Lamen Empire, does great game reviews, and loves Outer Worlds.

The Outer Worlds Revives Its Genre In One Brilliant Stroke (Review)
Skill Up
Published on Oct 23, 2019
I was SO excited for this, and I'm so happy to report that this game is just...awesome. Congrats to Obsidian - you guys totally nailed it.


Jim's got it right...Outer Worlds does it better.

Bethesda Is Officially Obsolete (The Jimquisition)
Jim Sterling
Published on Oct 28, 2019
Bethesda has spent so much goodwill these last few years it's practically bankrupt in the faith department. Fallout 76, as has been laboriously documented, is a cavalcade of humiliation and laughably bad corporate decisions.

Then we have Obsidian coming along with The Outer Worlds, just after Bethesda launched an expensive - and broken - subscription service for Fallout 76. The Outer Worlds is pretty much everything 76 isn't, and more besides. Hell, it's the best Fallout game since Fallout 2, and it isn't even a Fallout game.

Basically, we don't need Bethesda anymore. It has served its purpose - barely adequately - and we have something better now.

 

The Australians are getting a refund for Fallout 76!! I wonder if Europe and other countries with similar consumer protection laws will now follow and ZeniMax (or local legal equivalent) will extend refunds to their citizens? I wish the US consumer protection laws would beef up for the digital age...

" Zenimax has said it will issue refunds to Fallout 76 users who asked for their money back between November 24, 2018 and June 1, 2019 but have yet to receive it."

Also this shows that we should ask for refunds if we are unhapp with the game even if we are pretty sure the request will get ignored, blown off, or refused at the time - and to keep the emails, tweets, texts, etc that made up the correspondence for that refund request - because that's what is needed to prove we asked for the refund during that time frame ZeniMax is offering refunds - only to those that requested them during that time period.

ZeniMax to refund Australian consumers for Fallout 76 issues
Company admits it likely misled customers over their rights
https://www.videogameschronicle.com...d-australian-consumers-for-fallout-76-issues/

" Bethesda parent Zenimax Media will refund Australian Fallout 76 buyers who complained that the online game was faulty.

Under Australian law, consumers are entitled to request a refund if a product – digital or otherwise – has a fault which amounts to a major failure.

The Australian Competition and Consumer Association (ACCC) says Zenimaz acknowledged it likely contravened Australian consumer law by misleading consumers about their rights in relation to Fallout 76.

Consumers complained to the ACCC of being denied a refund for the game despite encountering a variety of faults such as server issues, lagging, graphic and visual problems.

“When a consumer buys a product it comes with automatic consumer guarantees, and retailers must ensure their refunds and returns policies do not misrepresent what the Australian Consumer Law provides,” said ACCC commissioner Sarah Court.

“When a consumer has purchased a product that has a fault which amounts to a major failure, the Australian Consumer Law provides them with the right to ask for their choice of either a repair, replacement or refund.”

Zenimax has said it will issue refunds to Fallout 76 users who asked for their money back between November 24, 2018 and June 1, 2019 but have yet to receive it.

It will also update its customer service materials to address the ACCC’s concerns about misrepresentation of consumer guarantee rights.

The ACCC launched legal proceedings against Sony earlier this year over allegations the company refused to refund customers who bought faulty games through the PlayStation store.

Bethesda recently introduced a premium subscription model for private servers in Fallout 76. Fallout 1st subscribers can pay $12.99/£11.99 per month or $99/£99.99 annually to play the game solo or with up to seven friends in a private world."

Fallout 76 Forced To Refund Misled Customers, Halloween Event Broken, Subscribers Griefed
YongYea, Nov 1, 2019
SOURCE 1: https://www.accc.gov.au/media-release...
SOURCE 2: https://twitter.com/Fallout/status/11...
SOURCE 3: https://www.reddit.com/r/fo76/comment...
SOURCE 4: https://www.vg247.com/2019/10/28/fall...
SOURCE 5: https://www.reddit.com/r/fo76/comment...