Far Cry 4

That's encouraging news. I'll try it out later...

Though Dragon Age: Inquisition has already captured my attention.

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If any of you are planning to get a Samsung EVO, Far Cry 4 is free

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Think you made a wise decision going over to the green team. FC4 runs very badly on my 7970M. I've got a mix of medium and high settings, vsync, SMAA but its very stuttery. AMD need to sort their drivers outs and I imagine ubisoft aren't making it easy for them.

I also noticed quite low GPU utilization despite the stuttering, could this be CPU bottleneck, driver bottleneck or generally poor optimization on AMD? Any way to tell? I think I have the latest patch too.

 

For sure not CPU issue, this is purely a Driver and Optimization issue.

 

WOW! the temps from this game is really high - it's going into the 80s with 1080p on medium settings...even worse when i see the total TDP used reach to 96% .... not so great.

Even going to low it still gives high temps!

 

Hahahahaha 80 is high? Please tell that to my 780M. Those sort of temperatures are only achievable with a large undervolt. Stock voltages, stock clocks (or even a small overclock of 100/200) will send temps well into the low 90's.

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i did overclock mine so should i be concerned?

 

If you should be concerned being in the low 80's overclocked, I should be in a hysterical panic being in the low 90's at stock.

So nah, your temps are fine!

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Can't you just ramp up on the fan? I 780m in the low to mid 70s playing BF4 maxed out. I used the turbo fan though, but it was inaudible for me since I use headphones. People around me? Not so much.

 

Yep. Max fans, re-pasted a dozen times, sitting on a laptop cooler, in a room in the UK during winter. Doesn't really get any more ideal conditions than those and yet it still gets cooking.

It's one reason why I look forward to getting a 980M again. I can overclock without seeing temperatures in the 90's. That will be nice.

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im getting aa gaming desktop do you think the stuttering will be gone with a 970 gtx or not, and will i be able to play at 4k medium/high with it or should i opt for the 980 gtx

 

970 should be enough. It's more or less up to Ubifail to fix the stutter on all systems.

Edit: lol, all systems being both AMD and Nvidia PCs in this case.

 

Stuttering is more of a streaming issue.

EDIT: yeah, my GPU temps seem to peak at 84-85 deg C.

 

far cry 4 still needs optimization cause i compared results from mobile gpu and desktop equals gpus and desktop gpus are about 15-20% faster but should me more or less the same.Its not yet optimized for notebooks i guess but at least its not a mess like unity Hope they fix far cry before christmas

 

What. What mobile GPU at stock equals the desktop GPU? The only "equal" performance is a 4GB GTX 680 compared to thegh0sts' 780M (at the clocks he's listed in his signature). And if the 4GB 680 is superclocked, it'll perform better still.

 

I'm trying some lower overclocks like 970/[email protected] and see if there's a good balance between performance and temps

 

Anyone else getting GPU utilization in the 60% range in FC4? It's a complete joke. Game won't keep a steady 60FPS despite the fact that FC3 ran maxed out at that speed no problem.

Very unpleasant experience, FPS all over the shop. Goes from 80% to 60% in any areas with multiple NPCs.

 

the textures on distant mountains is crap...it's really noticable when on a chopper....or maybe it's just being on medium/high settings?

 

Sounds like some sort of DoF effect going on there. Maybe you need to disable PostFX like in FC3?

 

this is what it looks like:



I can't tell if it is because of...

a) disabling the mip thingy in the gamerprofile.xml
b) because i am using medium/high settings
c) the game itself is just utter garbage

??????

yep i am seeing that too - goes between 50% and 80% for me.

 

Are you referring to the hills in the foreground or the snow-capped mountains in the background? The slight blur on the mountains in the background is due to PostFX DoF. The crap textures on the hills in the foreground is due to:

I'm guessing you did this to fix the stuttering? Well that's what it looks like when you do this. Ubisoft has proven yet again that it has no idea how to optimize properly. First Watch Dogs suffered from the exact same texture streaming related stuttering, and now Far Cry 4 does as well on a totally different engine! I guess you'll have to put up with the crap textures until Ubi$hit gets its $hit together in a few months.

 

yeah, i mean the foreground mountains....it looks terrible and i shouldn't have to disable the texture streaming just because ubi kiev can't code for peanuts!

 

You should just buy Ubisoft games when they go on sale for 75-80% off. At least by that time you'll have a better chance of getting a working product.

 

true though to a degree it's not at bad as AC:Unity...oh that looks like a complete mess! glad i didn't buy that

 

Keep saying to people... as much "better" as FC4 is over AC:U, it doesn't mean it's in any way "good". It's "decent" or "passable". A bit moreso than DayZ. But it's not nearly as optimized a game as something like Black Ops 2 or Payday: The Heist or Trine 2 or Dead Space 2 or Just Cause 2. I also just realized most of those games have a "2" in them. Mass Effect 2 is also far better optimized than Mass Effect 1. That's some kind of interesting thing. Dark Souls 2 also beats Dark Souls 1 for optimization.

I'm going to think of every game with a "2" in it that was more optimized than its predecessor. Someday.

 

Nah, Saints Row 2 is atrocious. One of the worst PC ports ever made.

 

That it was. Too bad it was also the best SR game ever made.

 

Yeah, I had the same negative experience with it.

 

filftl...

saints row 2 lol....why not tie fighter

 

Wow you guys should improve your cooling at stock voltage 0.98v and 930mhz on core my 680m runs low 60s C I have ramped memory +240mhz too so Iam not far behind a stock 780m at all.

980mhz at 1v gets me nice smooth framerates while the stutter apart from when I drive has vanished due to setting max pre rendered frames to 3. This with all at ultra no antiAlising.

780m should have NO problem playing this game

Perhaps you guys want to swap with me and I will put your 780m to good use!

 

It doesn't compare as much; the 680M had low voltage memory and less cores, as well as is mostly unable to even hit the 5000MHz barrier. It's a very cool card, and the 780Ms were hot enough that Clevo had to change the slave GPU and CPU cooling design of the P37xSMx models over the P370EM model to sacrifice the CPU heatsink sharing a heatpipe with the slave GPU heatsink so that the 780Ms could remain cool enough. Apparently, using the EM heatsinks over the SM versions is somewhere around a 10 degree celcius transfer in heat; CPU gets 10 deg cooler, GPU gets 10 deg hotter.

If you had a 780M that ran that cool now... I'd probably be drooling at that card.

Also, Clevo were dummies and could have shaved 5-10 deg C off every part in the system by making the rubber feet 1/2 taller or so, like they had on the D900 models. Silly Clevo.

 

Well that is strange antialiasing on looks MUCH better doesn't seem to be much of a performance hit and runs smoothly. Game is maxed out. Going to tweak vram some more and then call it a day. If ubi release some performance patches then the game should be all good.

 

Well I'm not entirely thrilled with the performance on my M18. Severe ghosting with SLI and anti-aliasing at max so I scaled back the a/a. Also switched off God Rays and Volumetric Fog, not for performance reasons but in some missions you just can't see a damned thing. Still get flickering and in general the trees just don't look right.

Every sunset and sunrise I still get 60-90 seconds where anything in shadow is completely black. The SSAO setting for Ambient Occlusion was supposed to fix that but not for me at least.

On the plus side, and slightly weird, I switched on V-Sync and Triple Buffering last night. No change to the graphical quality but my fans don't spin up anymore... Hmm...

Bring on patch 3!

 

I don't get why you quoted me for this statement, but I'm glad your game is performing fine for you XD.

 

You have a point I don't know why either lol!

 

HA! the LMG kills everything...so handy

also i didn't know you can...

heal underwater
heal while piloting a chopper

LOLz

 

I compare 750ti stock with 770m and i think its still needs to be a bit better optimized for notebook if i compare that results.Has anyone disabled alpha to covarage?Its a 5% boost without any impact in visuals

 

it's practically not noticable to the naked eye, you really need to look close at the blades of grass to see it....that's where the affect works.

 

750 Ti is 10-20% faster than 770M.

 

there is something seriously wrong with this game, I managed to play through the first checkpoint and it was playable but when I quit and restarted the game I was getting about 3fps, I have tried everything under the sun to try and improve things but nothing has worked, 2 days of wasted time installing drivers uninstalling stuff - changing every setting I could think of and still no joy, it is not a cpu or gpu issue it is a game coding issue, I'm going to guess that it is trying to connect to the internet even though I have all networking disabled and it just gets into this constant cycle of making the system so busy the game won't run

 

Re enable networking then

 

It makes me (weirdly) very happy to hear that - glad it's not just my machine. Clearly the game engine has huge issues with mobile cards.

I'm assuming by smooth you mean a locked 30? Because my 980m can't even managed anywhere close to 60FPS due to the awful GPU utilization. I hate doing this for FPS games but I may lock it to half my monitor's refresh just to deal with the yo-yo-ing performance. Less than ideal. Still better than the consoles as that means I can max out the settings, but I really should be getting 60FPS on this easily.

 

I really wish I could take a look at your system man... have you tried RMA-ing if your 980M doesn't work in most games? Other people with 980Ms aren't getting these issues you are. SOMETHING SOMEWHERE must be wrong.

 

it might just be the game....cos i can get other games to go at 60fps like alien: isolation at 1080p60.

 

strange, I think you should rma

 

me? i don't think there's anything wrong with my 780m but if you mean vitor711 then ok...next time quote the person you're talking to otherwise it gets confusing!

 

vitior sorry

 

Eh, sounds like the issue with FC4 is not just me, which is reassuring.

And my PC has stopped being weird on games like Ryse. DA:I seems to only drop frames when there's a bunch of NPCs on screen, which makes sense, as the cities are big hits on performance for anyone. The usage there is consistent.

I need to try other games and see, but my benchmarks for TR and Shadow of Mordor were more or less in line with other 980m machines. I still have a few weird issues - HDMI spits out a blurry image in fullscreen mode for both Metro 2033 Redux and FC4, but I'm not sure what's to blame there.

Seriously though, I wish Alienware had updated their X51 with a 970 already so that I could have just bought one of those. Shame. I've been gaming on a laptop for a while now, but the constant minor issues have put me off. Or maybe it's just Sager. Equally as likely as I've never deviated from them.

 

This game needs a patch.

 

If your other games are working fine, then awesome. DA:I is a bit badly coded for PC. Its performance does not match with its engine and expected performance from what we've seen with Battlefields 4 and Hardline. I don't think it's Clevo itself. You would definitely, DEFINITELY be seeing far more complaint issues if it was Clevo machines across the board giving the issues.