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    GTX 1080 Ti in Laptops?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Zero311, Feb 16, 2017.

  1. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist

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    Yeah, I can hear it now. Waaah, waahh, my laptop is too loud. Waaaah, waaaahhhh, my laptop is too thick. Waaaaahh, waaaaaahhhhh, my laptop is too heavy.

    Plus, I don't know about you guys, but I am already starting to question my own sanity in paying roughly the equivalent price of two 1080 Ti GPU for just one notebook 1080. There comes a point where any value gained in the extraordinary performance in a mobile package is getting lost due to totally asinine cost of acquisition. Even if it were feasible from a engineering perspective, the cost would be ludicrous. One GTX 1080 Notebook GPU - $1250 - vs - Two GTX 1080 Ti FE Desktop GPUs - $1400
     
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    I feel you.
    You want to know the sad part, the 1080Ti FE's fan isnt even as loud as the DM3's :p (at max RPM) Or maybe its my desktop case.

    The price is just going to be plain retarded. And will turn the system into a luxury purchase just like that 21X crap. And when at it, it will still be out performed by the 1080SLI.
     
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  3. thachcaothanhhien

    thachcaothanhhien Newbie

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    This thread is useful.
     
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    exactly why i've given up mobile computing in the future. You would think it would have flourished with all the advancements we've made, but it's all just gone down the ****ter in terms of pricing, just beyond outrageous now. From here on out I'll get a lightweight sturdy laptop for web/word processing and do the heavy lifting on desktops. I miss the old days :(

    The prime example of this obscenity is the Acer 21X. A 9000$ laptop, come on, and to top it all of, BGA. You know what kind of desktop I could build for 9K? We used to be able to get top mobile graphics cards SLI'd in the M18x for what....2600-3000$ tops, factory new, less if you went for the outlet deals. 1080 SLI mobile, can't touch for anywhere near that kind of money.
     
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    Right, plenty of good statements so far especially on @Mr.fox 's part.
    I'm just in a market for a top of the line gaming laptop... and i mean laptop my job forces me to move far too often to have a desktop as much as i wish i could.
    I just wish i had better choices then over priced (?) GPU from ONE company..... and something a bit newer this year wouldn't hurt seeing as how i will not be upgrading again for at least another 3-4 years.
     
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  6. D2 Ultima

    D2 Ultima Livestreaming Master

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    Dude.

    I could get 1080N SLI, 7700K, 64GB of RAM, decked out with some SSDs... AND THEN BUILD A DESKTOP WITH THE SAME SPECS. For $9k.
     
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  7. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist

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    Yes you could. And, I find it truly amazing that anyone would actually consider paying that kind of money for an Acer 21-inch turdbook. It should be priced at less that 50% of what it is now, minus an extra $2000 discount for being a castrated turdbook.

    Edit: I think it is some kind of demented social experiment to find out how many silly gamer-boys out there would be willing to spend +300% too much for it.
     
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  8. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    $9K? :no: Here home only 88,995 NOK = Aka $ 10,475 usd for this laptop Turdbook with soldered Sli graphics and fully throttled BGA... A big joke if you ask me. Not even fun :no:
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    Maybe ODM should put in TitanXp as well? Same TDP as 1080TI and THIS CARD will work very well in laptops. Even if you want overclock? Yeah :bigyes:Sure
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  9. D2 Ultima

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    184W for a 1080? what is that, reference? I hit 198W without touching my clocks here.

    On both cards.

    Out of the box.
     
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    Only an estimate by Guru3d.com (Possible there is variation between cards - but read what they said regarding power). But as you see expect up to 100W extra with 1080TI.
     
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    Why people no HWiNFO64
     
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    I don't know. As you know different sites monitor power usage dffrently.
    I have translated Norwegian text. As you can see, they say that 1080Ti pulls noticeably more than 1080. 100W more looks like a frequently repeated topic. 1080Ti use more power than you think. Can't compete 1080 vs. 1080 Ti for laptops.

    "GTX 1080 Ti has a specified TDP of 250 watts, the same as Titan XP. Our current meter, however, shows that the former prefer something more energy. All of our current measurements are approximate values, however, so do not read too much into this graph. The important point to bring up is that the card draws noticeably more energy than GTX 1070 and GTX 1080."

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    Test machine.
    • Hovedkort: MSI Xpower Gaming Titanium Edition
    • Prosessor: Intel Core i7 6700K@stock
    • Minne: Corsair Vengeance 16GB @ 2400 MHz
    • Strømforsyning: Corsair AX 1200W
    • Lagring: OCX Vertex 460A SSD
     
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    Yeah, I guess everyone is different. But HWiNFO64 pretty much matches what the 780W power brick here shows, so I think that should count for something.

    As for the 1080Ti, I actually feel that card is throttling too much to draw enough extra power. Watercool it and see how much it pulls.

    Though I wonder when they'll actually start pumping out 300W cards. 1080 being 180W was too little, they just wanted to be gimmicky and make a point. TX Pascal also had power limits, but was also heat limited because they refused a hybrid card. 1080Ti has a better cooler, but it needs a good case and airflow to make sense in, and lots of people still overheat it (that or @bloodhawk has the coldest 1080Ti in existence). TXp now should have the same cooler since I don't see a DVI port on it, but even then... those things still should be under water and at least 300W rated.

    I'd like to say this ain't maxwell we're dealing with, but honestly it is :bigrolleyes:
     
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    People love to put it in cases with ****tiest air flow.
     
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    What is air how do it flow
     
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    See Power consumtion by techpowerup.com :vbthumbsup:
     
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    Those are actually low. I have pulled 310W using the stock vBIOS, more using the Strix vBIOS on the FE :p
     
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    As I stated in previous post. There is a difference between cards. Not much, but still numbers :cool:
     
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    If it is underwater, are you actually seeing much perf improvement?
     
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    Only in TimeSpy and FS Ultra. That too is about 2-5% at most, beige I hit the power limit.
    But the clocks are much more stable under load. I'll power mod next week.
     
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    Same on my side for the clock stableness.
     
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    Guys, just enjoy 1080 SLI until 1180 SLI is available for our beasts.

    We ain't getting 1080Ti in laptops LOL
     
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    We may never see a 1080ti notebook, but someone is bound to stuff a 1080ti into a Razer Core or other eGPU dock, if they haven't already. I personally have zero interest in spending money on something like that, but for curiosity's sake, I'd be interested to see how it performs.
     
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    That's pretty much the only reason. No one in the forum trusts meteorologists.

    [​IMG]
     
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    I hook my 1440p 85hz monitor up to my laptop and use it as my primary. my 980 as i under stand is 35% slower than the 1070n. i get some lag i don't believe it has enough power to run all my games like the whitcher 3 or gta v at max settings at 1440p. if it could though, like a 1080 or 1080 ti i'd have my self a small portable gaming desktop with a fold up/out screen. :p
     
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    Sli is more of a waste in laptops then it is in Tower PCs so if they are going to build laptops that can handle 2x 120w+ TDP cards then one 240wTDP card connected to the same cooling apparatus with like 8+ heat pipes should be doable with an external power connector
     
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    Not really. With SLI you have twice the surface area to address the cooling of the die. With single die it's harder to draw heat from that single die as quickly as possible. Thermal density in a laptop is an issue. I'm not a fan of SLI and prefer the fastest single chip solution, but sometimes SLI is the only way with top end components.
     
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    that isn't a bad point but a vapor chamber between die and heat pipes should resolve the issue of surface area, and that is pretty much the solution on the reference design card(sans heat pipes)
     
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    But it doesn't change the total surface area of the cores themselves (being x2 in SLI).
     
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    True but I'm not sure it's a deal breaker
     
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    sli and cfx run like ass untill the like the 5 patch for games
     
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