GTX 900M series officially announced by NVIDIA!!!

is the GT 72 pro also a soldered CPU? how can you tell?

 

If it says HQ after the cpu name then it is soldered. If it says MQ it is socketed.

 

Hellman has it right.

My bad, I should have been more clear. It seems the GT72/GS's has soldered cpu's and the GT70/60 does not.

 

what HQ is unlocked? it would be nice to get one of those so you could OC the chip. I have a jerry rigged OC on my M17x R4 where i have 45 W TDP at 4.3GHz, which gives me great single and dual thread speeds that otherwise would not be possible.

 

Omg guys! Listen to this! If you get the NP9377 with one 980m and want another later they will only charge like ~$630 or whatever it originally costs to get two when you buy the laptop! This is great news considering people think it will cost ~$1000 to get a 980m.
Here is the thread where Pat@XoticPC told me it would only cost ~$630 for a second 980m: Sager NP9377

Thanks Pat! Maybe Xotic PC will update your laptop, whatever model for that cheap too! Ask them! Just giving you guys another reason to choose Clevo and Xotic PC!

 

now will that card work in my m17x R4 and would he sell it to me

 

Go ask them at Xotic PC! Jesus! I asked them just now if they will do this for laptops with 880m. If they will then that is an amazing deal!

 

Why is it that MSI still pushes out the GT60/70 with a single fan solution? It's soooo god awfully loud while under load... smh.

If it wasn't for that i'd have my hands on a GT60 already, it's cheap and does what I need it to do.

 

is it really important to get a 4k screen? I am chasing a 15"'er to fit in my carry bag for work that i can carry around. I don't really want a 17" as its a tad to big for me (and wont fit in my bag).

are there any 15" with SLI or should i stick with a 3k screen (sacrifice a bit) with a gtx 980m ?

 

Get 1080p. No need for 3K or 4K really.

 

Hmm, for what would you think a 4k screen is important?

For gaming it's not. For work, maybe.

 

Thanks so a IPS 1080p screen should make a lappy a bit cheaper then!! there are no sli ready 15"s are there?

 

4K on 15.6"/17.3" screen, that's just malarkey.

 

Yeah, 15" FHD IPS Matte would be very nice. I have seen 14" and 18" IPS displays, and they were beautiful.

I don't know of any 15" SLI machines with IPS displays, no. The 970M is a great card on its own. It will perform 20% better than the 880M.

Check out this link: Custom Laptops, Gaming Notebooks, Custom Gaming Laptops | XOTIC PC

 

Never done anything on 4K ever so I do not even know what it looks like. Not sure of how amazing it is. Games look good the way it is. Plus last time I checked 4K monitors are expensive so I cannot even afford to try one out. I'll just stick to 1920x1080 @ 120hz. Everyone keeps talking about IPS and the benefits of that are more colors? Never seen that but I can go to best buy and I am sure they will have them there. Maybe 4K too? Huh. I'm gonna head down to one of those stores to see for myself.

 

whooo!!!! thin aluminium case, new heat pipe setup, graphics rivaling a desktop GTX 980, annnnnd IPS screen!!!! definitely a top choice-- but still going to wait on some more review before pulling the trigger.

 

Looks like the GIGABYTE P35Xv3-CF2 - PRE-ORDER is the best bang for buck... unles clevo/sager brings something out similar. Clevo (metabox) doesn't have many 980 models yet in australia.

Can anyone please explain to me why the Killer BGN is > AC on the wireless network selections?

***BUT then again the x7 pro aorus looks amazeballs....***

metabox (aus clevo)

http://www.metabox.com.au/store/b78/Metabox-Prime-P375SM-A-Laptop

*********
can i just get one 980m and buy another later to get SLI ?


15"er
- PRE-ORDER - ( ETA, specifications and upgrade-ability are subject to change by manufacturer )
- 15.6” FHD 16:9 IPS Backlit (1920x1080) Anti-Glare Matte Type Screen
- Standard No Dead Pixel Policy
- NO Professional Monitor Color Calibration
- 4th Generation Intel® Haswell Core™ i7-4710HQ (2.5GHz - 3.5GHz, 6MB Intel® Smart Cache)
- IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU (Cools better than all Compounds) (XPC Service)
- NVIDIA® GeForce™ GTX 980M (8.0GB) GDDR5 PCI-Express DX11 (Maxwell) w/ Optimus™ Technology
- No Video Adapter
- No External Mobile Display
- 16GB DDR3 1600MHz [SKU-824V] (Corsair Vengeance CL9 Dual Channel Memory (2x8GB SODIMMS))
- Standard Laptop Finish
- No Laptop Laser-Sketch™
- Standard White Backlit Keyboard
- mSATA Option: Operating System Installed [Default] w/ mSATA(s) selected below
- 250GB Samsung 840 EVO Series Solid State mSATA
- 250GB Samsung 840 EVO Series Solid State mSATA
- 1TB 7200RPM (SATA III - 6GB/s) - Default (SKU - HDD025)
- Raid 0 Stripe Enabled (Requires 2 or 3 Hard Drives. Combines Hard Drives for performance)
- Swappable - 8x Super Multi DVDRW/CDRW Combo Drive (swap with 2nd HDD bay / included in box)
- No Back Up Hard Drive
- NO External USB Optical Drive
- Bluetooth Included *With select wireless cards only* (See “Wireless Network” Section Below)
- Intel® Dual Band AC 7260 802.11 A/AC/B/G/N 2.4/5.0GHz + Bluetooth 4.0 | Up to 300/867Mbps (2x2) (SKU - WIFI24)
- No Network Accessory
- Internal SD Only Card Reader
- Built in 1.3Megapixel Camera
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- 2 Year GIGABYTE Warranty (SKU - WTY011)

 

Anyone run furmark on an 970m yet? Mine is capping at 772 mhz even though I get 1000+ when playing games. Gpu-z says it's throttling due to pwr

 

Because FurMark is a power virus, causes it to hit TDP early thus throttle/not Boost.

 

http://www.metabox.com.au/store/b78/Metabox-Prime-P375SM-A-Laptop

Metabox Prime P375SM-A

Standard Metabox Design
90% Gamut Gloss 17.3" FHD LED Upgrade <--- IPS???
Nvidia GeForce GTX 980M with 8GB GDDR5 VRAM <--- can i add another to make SLI ?
Intel Core i7-4810MQ Processor (6MB Cache up to 3.80 GHz)
16GB 1600MHZ Memory
Crucial M500 240GB SATA3 mSATA
Crucial M500 240GB SATA3 mSATA
Samsung 840 EVO 250GB SATA3 SSD
1TB 7200RPM HDD
Optical Drive Bay Hard Drive Caddy
Intel 7260 AC Dual Band Wireless and Bluetooth
Blu-ray Reader / DVD +- R/RW DL
No Operating System
2 Year Platinum Metabox Onsite Pickup
Spare Battery Pack
Quantity:


$4,109.00 AUD


http://www.metabox.com.au/store/b81/Metabox-Prime-P157SM-A-Laptop
Metabox Prime P157SM-A NOT IPS ... unfortunately

Standard Metabox Design
15.6" FHD (1920 x 1080) LED Matte
Nvidia GeForce GTX 980M with 8GB GDDR5 VRAM
Intel Core i7-4810MQ Processor (6MB Cache up to 3.80 GHz)
16GB 1600MHZ Memory
Crucial M500 240GB SATA3 mSATA
1TB 7200RPM HDD
Optical Drive Bay Hard Drive Caddy
Intel 7260 AC Dual Band Wireless and Bluetooth
DVD +- R/RW DL
No Operating System
2 Year Platinum Metabox Onsite Pickup
Spare Battery Pack

$3,181.00 AUD

 

4k is good for excel, PDF files, reading text, pictures, and a few other things. You could get away with some older games at 4k like RTS. thats what i would do

 

Laptop screens are physically to small to benefit from 4K unless you want everything to look pin sharp and reduced battery life.

 

Just received my MSI GT72 Dominator Pro 208 i7-4710HQ 2.5GHz 8G 980M 32G RAM 512G RAID SSD 17.3" today! SO excited to get it up and running with all my games! Thus far I really like it!

 

Good for you I Just ordered my today, same model too, but its suppose to be here Saturday (sometimes I just gotta love Amazon for speedy delivery )

Hahaha I'll be waking up. Spend the day at Comic-Con and then come home to finally enjoy a computer that runs well.....My laptop can take up to 3 min to boot up. Can't wait to do my own time test on boot up speed on the GT72 and then install all my games!

 

Let me fix that for you. Now an Alienware 18 with a 4k screen would be rather nice, and if it had a 980m SLI you could even game at 4k.

 

4k is much much better looking then 1080p.

 

You still can't use 4K at 100% DPI scaling unless you have hawk eyes, so what's the point? 2.5K maybe for an 18" screen but not 4K.

 

On a 28 inch monitor that is. On the native laptop screen it's pointless. I never game on that anyway

 

I'll throw this out there. I didn't like 15" 4k at all, but I really like 15" 2880x1620 a LOT. I use 200% scaling in Windows and everything looks perfect. Origin is a little small but much more legible than in 4K. The beauty outweighs the drawbacks. So far, gaming at that res on the 970M is super nice too. Crysis 3 at 2880x1620, medium settings, no AA, 1x AF I'm getting 40-60fps depending on the terrain. No throttling either. Skyrim maxed out pegs 60fps. I'd like to see the 980M now.

 

Resolution or more accurately pixel density is primarily based on the range you view a screen from though. You will probably end up using all laptops regardless of size from the same distance due to the built in keyboard. Desktops however are normally viewed from about 0.5 meters further (18") so a 17" laptop screen should have the same resolution as a 27" Desktop Monitor.

15.6" at 3k (2880x1620) is near exactly the same DPI as 18.4" at 4k. And its a reasonable resolution but yeah near the upper limit.

 

My favorite reference: Is This Retina? - DPI/PPI Display Calculator

 

either you hit the TDP limit or your power brick isn't large enough, did they still give you a 150W PSU?

 

Do people never learn?

Never, under any circumstances, use FurMark on a video card that you care about!

Be thankful for that TDP limit or you might have fried your brand new card.

 

Shrug....Guess I'll throw this out there since everyone is talking about screens: just how much of a difference will the IPS display make for the msi gt72. Originally, I wanted to wait for the higher end configurations to come out wit the better display and CPU but I've pretty much become fed up with my current laptop, so settled for the TN display and 4710HQ just so I can could have it sooner. The IPS display model won't be available to likely November

Now my question for y'all is: Just how much am I gonna miss out on by missing the IPS? I've never really used a high end set-up so in this case ignorance might truly be bliss but I am curious. I know that the IPS has better viewing angles and color accuracy but is it going to be THAT much better than what the current msi gt72 has...? I just can't picture why anyone would be chasing after it so much when I've been mostly satisfied with my TN displays for years (i've seen high end monitors recently at school cause Apples taken over for supplying computer hardware -_-). Yeah color accuracy is nice and some images might look better but unless you want to stop and marvel at your screen all the time. Shouldn't it be enough if it just has a "good" screen and runs well?

Just don't see what all the hubbub is about IPS ( and 4k and 3k for that matter)..? Is just a case, in the same sense, of how some people can't bring themselves to go back to 60Hz screens after enjoying 120Hz?

I have tried to look up images to show the difference but have the feeling that the only real way to appreciate the changes is to view it in person

 

Yeah, same one. I don't have a bigger one either. I'm not sure it'll ever matter to me since this far exceeds my expectations as it is but I still would like to know if that's the bottleneck.

Doing a Furmark+Prime95 now and GPU-Z says I'm at 99% GPU load. Probably means the TDP limit is reached?

I will never go back to TN... NEVER. Of course you need an IPS screen with good response time. and 120Hz IPS is just plain awesome. I'm very much looking forward to when they make a 120Hz IPS/PLS panel.

 

Oh no, I agree with what you said. All these awesome notebooks that each have one limiting factor is just annoying.

I'm personally leaning towards the G551 or the ALW14.

 

So first off both technologies cover large ranges and in some cases a Good TN will be better at something than a bad IPS, or a Good IPS better than a bad TN.

Vertical Viewing angles - This is the huge one, some TN screens will always either have the top or bottom of the screen color shifted because its angles are so bad.
IPS = Average - Great
TN = Terrible - Average
Contrast - you want over 700:1, >1000:1 is great
IPS - Poor - Good
TN - Average - Great
Color Space - for gaming you want 66-100% sRGB
IPS - Average - Great
TN - Poor - Good
Latency (response time, GtG, BtB, many different terms are used often to mislead the customer)
IPS - Poor - Average
TN - Average - Great

Everything else tends to either be independent of being IPS/TN, or just fine for both.
A fairly good TN screen tends to be just fine, and a bad IPS screen can be well bad.

In testing a TN screen I would at least get an image up with a light color like yellow, pink, or any pastel on the bottom, and a very dark blue, purple or brown at the top. Then find the angle that works best and move your head up and down 1-2 inches to see if the color is shifting noticeably. If it can handle at least 1-2 inches you will probably never have an issue with it.

 

who cares about scaling...change it back and forth when you need it -_- i would take 4k on my 17x any day. My blind butt can see pixels on my 17x and if your using it for pictures or games particularly being able to see pixels is not important. Being 2 feet away from the screen 4k res is not that extreme. 4k on a 7 in tablet is dumb but on a 17 in screen it isn't. you have 1080p tablets...you think a 4k 17 in screen is dumb? Please. It even works on 15 in.

 

fixed that for you

 

I think the highest I'd currently take with current tech is 980M SLI with 1440p 120Hz panels on a 17" laptop. I have no interest in needing to turn down settings for 4k and running anything even SLIGHTLY under native res looks annoyingly blurry to me.

 

Thanks for the comprehensive Ningyo summary.

Really helps

....@HopelesslyFaithful: you're really bashing on the TN there. Hmmmmm.....Well, I can live with an average display since I've been doing it all my life, I think; I'll keep this in mind later down the road though when I eventually upgrade years later. For now, I think the simple fact of having it early makes up for the lack of perfection and most seem really satisfied with the screen of the gt72 so far. If it really bothers me I should be able to switch it out later on my own dime right?

 

dude 4k perfectly scales to 1080p......

 

Panels *NEVER* look right if they are not at their native resolution, I know exactly what he is talking about.

 

depends on the monitor and the pitch of the pixels a 4k screen on a 17 in screen might look just fine

 

Correct. There is zero loss of fidelity scaling a 4K display to 1080p.
.

 

If you can't see it, then more power to you I guess. I can, however, and it drives me absolutely crazy. I even notice it with 1680 x 1050 on a 1920 x 1200 screen.

 

only issue is gaps but at 4k and 15-18 in the gaps are probably small enough where it doesn't matter.

and how is that perfect scaling? try 960x600 adn again the gaps in a 4k screen at 17 in should be far smaller and harder to see. I can see the gaps at close range in my 1080p 17 but its a low res screen comparably.

 

I have to disagree. In the past, yes, but these 4k panels look exactly like 1080p panels when set to that resolution. I have had 3 ips screens side by side(two native fhd) and tried hard to find a difference but couldn't.

 

dunno what to do... the IPS msi gt72 dominator wont be coming to aus anytime soon... doh

unless ips is meaningless ill just get a normal 1080p or 3/4k monitor

 

Try harder.

j/k