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    GTX 900M series officially announced by NVIDIA!!!

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Cakefish, Oct 7, 2014.

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    Keep in mind in SLI mode the second GPU duplicates the frame buffer from the first GPU, so you have to divide the total VRAM by the number of GPUs. So if you have a desktop with four GTX Titan 6GB, it would not have 24GB VRAM, only 6GB available.

    In the past, VRAM was not so important, but recently there are a few games calling for high VRAM for textures like Shadow of Mordor, Evil Within, Wolfenstein New Order, etc. In the case of the Aorus X7 Pro, they are using 3GB 970m, so even in SLI mode, total available VRAM is only 3GB, not 6GB. This is below recommended specs for Evil Within (4GB VRAM) and Shadow of Mordor (6GB VRAM).


    Haha yes, very true.
     
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    BEHOLD! GT72 on Amazon UK!

    £4,180.02 = MSI GT72 Dominator Pro 211-HID6 17.3" i7 4710HQ 3.5GHz 8GB GTX 980M 32GB RAM Super RAID 3 2TB SSD + 2TB SSD Storage BDRE Windows 8.1
    £3,322.02 = MSI GT72 Dominator Pro 211-HID5 17.3" i7 4710HQ 3.5GHz 8GB GTX 980M 32GB RAM Super RAID 3 2048GB SSD + 1TB HDD BDRE Windows 8.1
    £2,807.22 = MSI GT72 Dominator Pro 211-HID4 17.3" i7 4710HQ 3.5GHz 8GB GTX 980M 32GB RAM Super RAID 3 1024GB SSD + 1TB HDD BDRE Windows 8.1
    £2,417.22 = MSI GT72 Dominator Pro 211-HID3 17.3" i7 4710HQ 3.5GHz 8GB GTX 980M 32GB RAM Super RAID 512GB SSD + 1TB HDD BDRE Windows 8.1
    £2,144.22 = MSI GT72 Dominator Pro 211-HID2 17.3" i7 4710HQ 3.5GHz 8GB GTX 980M 32GB RAM Super RAID 256GB SSD + 1TB HDD BDRE Windows 8.1
    £1,936.22 = MSI GT72 Dominator Pro 211-HID1 17.3" i7 4710HQ 3.5GHz 8GB GTX 980M 32GB RAM 128GB SSD + 1TB HDD BDRE Windows 8.1

    Yes, your eyes do not deceive; there really is a >4 grand option with combined total of 4TB SSD storage! It has THE POWER!!!

    Seriously tempted to just cave and go for MSI GT72. I mean P35X v3 looks shiny and all, but will they really be able to cool the GTX 980M effectively in that chassis? It's not really so much the size of the chassis that makes me hesitant to get the GT72 - I've managed okay with my Clevo for the most part (though a return to 15.6" form factor would seriously improve portability on the train - my Clevo takes up a huge chunk of my suitcase, unlike my old smaller, sleeker Samsung). It's simply the fact that it has the gaming logo stamped on the case - I don't want my family knowing how much moolah this lappy is gonna cost - and the Gigabyte P35Xv3 looks much more discrete but still premium, if that makes sense!
     
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    Mrnewguy Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey man I'm new to the forums but if you live in the Uk you can pre-order at overclockers.uk from today. Hope that helps.
     
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    Haha, that's genius, you get a laptop that costs more than a used Toyota but your family will think it's cheap because it's bulky and looks more old school than your Samsung, right?
     
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    Mrnewguy Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm thinking of purchasing a gigabyte gaming notebook, how reputable is their company?
     
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    frysie Notebook Evangelist

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    im leaning towards the p35x v3 (15.6" IPS 3k screen).... perfect size with the gtx 980 (16gb ram)


    anyone know if the xoticPC computers warranty (from gigabyte) is 2 years global ?
     
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    Exactly. It sounds stupid but I know I'd get a lot of flack for spending so much money on a gaming luxury item. My brother did when he bought an Alienware years ago - and he had a full time job (and still does btw), while I'm a student!

    Anyways... GOOD NEWS EVERYONE! P35X v3 FOR PREORDER ON OVERCLOCKERS UK! ETA 31/10!!!

    HELL TO THE YEAH!!! :D

    GIGABYTE P35X v3-CF1 (Ultraforce Extreme), 15.6" WQHD+ Anti-Glare, Wide Viewing Angle, Intel Core i7-4860HQ, 16GB DDR3L, 2x128GB mSSD + 1TB 7200rpm HDD, NVIDIA GTX980M 8GB GDDR5 - Windows 8.1 [P35X V3-CF1]
    GIGABYTE P35X v3-CF2 (Ultraforce), 15.6" FHD Anti-Glare, Wide Viewing Angle, Intel Core i7-4710HQ, 8GB DDR3L, 128GB mSSD + 1TB 7200rpm HDD, NVIDIA GTX980M 8GB GDDR5 - Windows 8.1 [P35X V3-CF2]

    Oh, and P35W v3 too!

    GIGABYTE P35W v3-CF1 (Ultraforce), 15.6" FHD Anti-Glare, Intel Core i7-4710HQ, 8GB DDR3L, 128GB mSSD + 1TB 7200rpm HDD, NVIDIA GTX970M 6GB GDDR5 - Windows 8.1 [P35W V3-CF1]
     
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    Adenosine Notebook Enthusiast

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    This^
    My two choices are the MSi GS60 Ghost pro 4k with 970m 6GB vRAM or the Gigabyte P35x v3 with 980m 8GB vRAM. However, the P35x looks like its build quality is pretty bad... need this laptop to last 4 years, anyone have any experience using Gigabyte laptops and there longevity? I really want the 980m but if the laptop build quality is as bad as it looks I'll go with MSi.
     
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    If you haven`t used IPS before, you won`t miss anything either.
    If you have used IPS however, you are used to

    Black being pitch black
    White being white instead of greyish white you typical find on TN
    Wider viewing angles
    Better contrast
    Brighter display
    Better colour fidelity

    I came from MSI GT notebook with the typical TN display to Alienware 18 with PLS (IPS) and you really do notice the difference.
    The display is what you will be "using" the most on a notebook, so in my opinion one should absolutely wait another month if the notebook you want get IPS.
     
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    I personally prefer 120Hz over 4K. I do agree that a 1440p 120Hz 24" or something would be perfect for me as an external, however when I actually use this like a laptop and go to events/university/anywhere and I don't have my second screens etc, then the built-in screen is my ONLY option. As for being unable to stand the small screen, to each their own. Not everyone has the same issue though, like me =D.

    I think 980M SLI is going to be weaker than 780Ti SLI, and thus won't drive all the most demanding (unoptimized or deserving) games at 4K. But most everything else? SLI 780Ms would work haha. But yes, we're getting closer.

    He has a 4GB 980M and thus cannot max the textures. ASUS doesn't use the higher vRAM versions.

    This is indeed very correct. I'll also add to this that in desktop land, buying a "4GB 690" or a "12GB Titan Z" or a "8GB R9 295X2" are all giving you the total vRAM on each card. It's a marketing tactic, which means that you need to halve the advertised vRAM. 690s are two downclocked 2GB 680s; Titan Z is two downclocked Titan Black 6GBs and R9 295X2 is two (not downclocked, amazingly) R9 290X 4GB cards. The problem is that the latter two cards have serious price premiums, $1000 and $400 respectively, over the option of buying two of their single GPU counterparts. So don't buy them =D.
     
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    It's a little bit disappointing that aorus didn't have 6gb on each gtx970m. Otherwise, it would be amazing to have such stats. And the amount of storage and ram that you can expand.
     
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    frysie Notebook Evangelist

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    we must be twins.... being aussie tho... i need to weigh up global warranties... xotic told me gigabyte = 2 year global, msi being only 1 for aussies
     
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    Congrats with being one of the first with GTX 980M man.
    Please let us know temperatures and noise during gaming. Very curious to how both the machine and the graphic card is :)

    Also, did you get IPS (It says "VW" in the picture which I guess stands for Wide viewing = IPS)? Please run AIDA64 and find out what display/monitor name you got. Thanks

    If only we knew. Not a single word from Alienware since 900M launched. I`m getting sick of waiting. Alienware is the last piece of puzzle before I can make a decision on what to buy.
    Right now you can only find GTX 880M and R9 M290X on their website. And they run this stupid AMD promo. Yeah like I want to buy the poor sucky M290X for the sake of 3 free games.
     
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    Alrighty folks, well I like the pricing on the Gigabyte P35X v3. £1800 and £1600 is not a bad price in my opinion for the specifications. Assuming the laptop doesn't thermally throttle, I'm definitely getting one!

    However, there is only a £200 difference between the 'basic' model and the 'premium' one. The higher-tiered device offers these extras versus the cheaper edition: 3K resolution vs 1080p, twice the RAM at 16GB, twice the SSD storage at 2x128GB AND an upgrade to Intel i7-4860HQ vs Intel i7-4710HQ. That's a heck of a spec bump for a mere £200 difference!

    BUT... will the GTX 980M handle the 3K resolution properly? I mean, I'd hate to get the 3K model and be forced to run in medium settings all the time but at the same time the higher-tiered device looks like much better value for money. What would you guys do in my situation?

    P.S. I'll get around to updating 1st page post tonight with the various reseller brands!
     
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    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    It will do fine on many games in 3K. But dont expect smooth 60FPS. That will rather be the exception. But it should do 30FPS+ in most.
    You can always run lower resolutions than 3K if the 980M is too weak in some games.

    Will be interesting to see reviews of these 3K machines. It will come soon
     
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    Go for it! :thumbsup:

    (Then let me know if it has any problems :p )

    As for 3k, there are a whole range of different games and settings and I'm sure you will find some that run OK at that resolution. Probably not able to run the most demanding games on the market at 3k all settings maxed and still get 60fps.
     
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    You will be fine Cakefish. A 3K display shouldn't die from a single 980M. But like always, most demanding games like BF4/Crysis 3/etc will need settings turned down. Most other games from the past will not. Of course, this is entirely games from the past vs games from the present here. There's no telling how awful optimization and vRAM usage is going to get for games in the near future. And it WILL get worse before it gets better, I'm sure. I would likely take that model though, with the better internals on the whole.
     
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    Yeah, I'm definitely leaning towards the £1800 3K device. It just seems so much better value! I guess I will have to train myself to not need ultra details - for the greater good! At least 3K will negate the need for any AA which will provide mucho performance savings!

    Oh man, I am so happy right now, you chaps wouldn't believe! I'm literally drunk on childish glee at the very thought of preordering this little beastie! I didn't think I'd see one up for preorder in the UK until November - SO DARN HAPPY! :D
     
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    The waiting finally paid off eh? Yeah go with 3K :)
     
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    Does it say when your order will ship?

    Sadly, I've been waiting nearly 5 years for that perfect thin gaming laptop to finally upgrade from my ancient envy 15.
     
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    Couple of blog posts with not-marketing-embellished photos of many new notebooks with 900 series Maxwells together in the same room at Nvidia media event:

    MSI GT72
    MSI GS60
    MSI GS70
    ASUS G751
    Clevo P650
    Gigabyte P35

    NVIDIA unveils new GeForce GTX 900M GPUs and gaming notebooks - HardwareZone.com.my
    Showcase: Gaming notebooks with GeForce GTX 900M graphics ready to roll out - HardwareZone.com.sg

    And some more beauty shots of Clevo P650:

    IMAGINE: NEW Clevo Models - Page 9
    Preview: Aftershock S15 gaming notebook with GeForce GTX 970M - HardwareZone.com.sg

    Plus some more details on available screens for Clevo P65X:

    Surprisingly new Clevo chassis appears to have the highest quality materials out of those.

    I remember when seeing older Asus ROG models in shop, how much cheaper and bulkier they looked compared to marketing photos. That's one of the disadvantages of buying those relatively rare notebooks from e-shops on the web, can't really see them in person easily and photos can be deceiving.
     
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    The store page says ETA 31/10. I haven't placed an order yet... but I am definitely extremely tempted to - just to satisfy my desperate cravings! Oooh... *deep breaths... deep... breaths, calm down... hoooo boy*

    Folks, I think I am willing to be a Guinea pig. I have 5K savings in the bank (I have been saving for quite some time now!). So £1800 I can afford - especially as I'm gonna be selling my Clevo after I get the new notebook. Yeah, I definitely won't have much overclocking potential in that thin chassis but just the fact that I'd have a GTX 980M in that slim form factor would really help to make up for that fact!

    I'm so tempted to just click buy... the wise man inside me tells me I really should hold off for a review though... I'm conflicted :eek:
     
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    5830M >>>> 980M....LOL what an upgrade :p

    Looks like Clevo is taking the display choices to a new level. Good to see someone taking that serious
     
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    P35 looking pretty nice in that shot:

    [​IMG]

    For realsies! I'm gonna pown some noobs now!
     
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    frysie Notebook Evangelist

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    im going from a crappy amd i5 tm2t touchsmart laptop to this.... do you know if overclockers ships to oz? and if we have to pay VAT?

    do we get 2 years global warranty in oz?
     
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    I'm torn between the £1600 version and £1800 version. I would really love the 3k display but i'm only prepared to spend £1600 max. I actually put the £1600 option in the 'basket' but now I'm reasoning whether it would be better to wait for a November review. I have been searching for my first gaming notebook for 2 months now. I want to replace my HP AMD 7340 laptop which plays games at around 5 fps :D. Don't get me started on company of heroes 2.
     
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    Current IPS screens are not as good for fast-paced fps games, though, correct? I'm thinking of games like Quake.

    Thanks a lot for the help mate, I appreciate it. I guess I'm going to wait for Alienware to make an announcement on the 980M before deciding on whether to buy an MSi GT72 with 60 Hz or another brand with 120 Hz.
     
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    Are these panels in any existing models?
     
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    I wouldn't get a 3K screen with a single 980M, it won't really be able to take advantage of it, and you'll find yourself gaming at a non-native resolution which blurs the image - I've since learned that even if you run it at a lower resolution by a whole number factor then it'll still be blurry. I think you'll be unsatisfied with it ultimately. And I don't think I'd choose a thin slim laptop if I was gonna get a 980M, I'd want better cooling and some ability to overclock it (unless you need a slim laptop).
     
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    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    >4000 quid for a laptop with a base model soldered CPU, and a single 980M?! I want whatever they're smoking coz it sure induces illusions of grandeur.
     
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    grandeur,ɡranjər,ˈɡranˌdyo͝or.

    splendor and impressiveness, especially of appearance or style

    really i want what their smoking also
     
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    We have few game benchmarks to go on yet, but based on what we have, 980m at 3k no AA will probably be similar FPS to 880m at 1080p 2x AA. It will obviously vary from game to game, and the 880m couldn't push 60 FPS on every game at 1080p. It does not seem unreasonable at all to go 3k with a single 980m though, just take a look at what games you plan to play first.

    It has FOUR 1 TB SSD Drives which most OEMs charge around $550 to add each. Thats $2200 right there. Admittedly kind of overkill for 99.99% of users though hehe.
     
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    It's not so much the slimness that appeals to me (though that admittedly is a huge bonus) but the fact that it is a unassuming chassis that doesn't scream 'I'M A GAMING NOTEBOOK!' at the top of its lungs like the MSI GT72 and ASUS G751 both do (I like their designs, don't get me wrong, but the gaming logos slapped on their chassis's presents me with a problem). Like I said earlier in the thread, I very much want to hide the true cost of this new laptop to my family. The Gigabyte I can easily pretend to be much cheaper than it actually is but the GT72... not so much - because it looks very gaming-ey. The P35X v3 looks rather 'normal'. If that makes sense!

    I am worried how badly the 980M will handle the 3K resolution. It'd be much better than the 870M + 4K option in some notebooks such as Razer Blade but I'm sure it will really struggle to play The Witcher 3 at native resolution - a scary prospect indeed. But, I guess I should be prepared to make sacrifices to the detail settings for the greater good.

    It's just that the more expensive option seems much better value to me. £200 for much higher PPI display, a decently more powerful processor, twice the SSD storage, twice the RAM - just seems like a no-brainer. I could get the 1080p version but literally halving SSD storage and RAM as well as having a more lowly CPU seems like a major sacrifice to make!

    Hmmm...
     
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    i think it will handle 3k just fine but 4k
     
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    Multiply the "GS60 3K Native" by roughly 1.7 you get the GTX 980M (GS60 = 870M)










    Here is Notebookcheck`s numbers of GS60 with 3K with everything maxed out in settings:


    Short said: 3K should be no problem at all :thumbsup:
     
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    I know exactly what you mean. I'd rather be able to get a modest looking laptop for gaming. All the red paint and lit keyboards, bleck.
     
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    I suppose it's hardly possible to tell at this point, but how would you expect an Alienware 17 with a 980M to fare against a GT72 with 980M performance-wise (unrelated to the 3K matter)?
     
  38. n=1

    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    I get that, but don't forget this is British Pounds not USD, and 1 pound is roughly 1.606 USD as of now, so £4180 = $6703 USD for soldered CPU (base model to boot) and single 980M. Hence they are definitely smoking some fine stuff.

    My guess my other point was instead getting ripped off by the OEM for SSDs, just do your own upgrades. An 840 Evo 1TB could be had for £290 and the mSATA version for £333 from Amazon UK. That's "only" £1246 before VAT. You basically save £1000 if you just buy the base GT72 and upgrade the SSDs yourself.
     
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    GIGABYTE - Notebook / Slate & Device - Notebook & Netbook - P series - P35X v3

    ^ Gigabyte are claiming the 980M is merely 18% more powerful than the 970M. What? Do you guys think that it could be due to thermal throttling? I mean, only 18% stronger is not in line with NVIDIA's claims for the 980M vs 970M.

    Still by far my top contender for new laptops though. I wonder if I should preorder in case of stock shortages. I imagine this machine will be VERY popular. I really don't want to wait longer than the official launch date on the 31st.

    I personally love the rainbow keyboards but yeah, I wish there were more options available for a more subdued chassis design in gaming notebooks - without resorting to the business 90's look of Clevo (as much as I love my P170SM which has served me well).
     
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    Why should they perfom differently?
     
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    CPU would be the limiting factor. If the AW17 did not refresh with integrated CPUs, If they didn't, the 4810MQ or higher chips will rip apart a 4710HQ, especially considering OCing. A 4960HQ or 4980HQ on the GT72? I don't know.

    Both are mux-enabled systems so no Optimus stuff hindering performance via 5% won't apply here, at least as far as I know.
     
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    NorrinRadd Notebook Consultant

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    I was only asking because I saw the AW 17 behind the GT70 on the graphs you posted, but I suppose it was due to different CPUs (or possibly GPU if that was an AW 17 with a 880M) as D2 Ultima said. Sorry for the stupid question ^^
     
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    Does the Sager 8278 support multiple monitors out with the 980m? Anyone know?
     
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    How hard would it be to apply thermal paste to an msi ghost?
    If I were to get an originpc, I really want high quality thermal paste in that . Also, the only way to get the 3k screen is with the 3gb 970 instead of the 6gb 970. Not a huge deal because I'm mainly a strategy gamer with some Wow sprinkled in.
     
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    Derek712 Notebook Virtuoso

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    And, if I'm reading correctly, it's open box
     
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    Yes, I'm certain of it.
     
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    Yeah, the upgraded version sounds like better value, but I wouldn't have chosen that laptop model in the first place. It's a pity you have to hide it from your family, I'd just get the one I wanted without compromises, but if you definitely have to have it understated and also want a slim laptop then I guess it would make sense for you.
     
  48. Cakefish

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    Well I don't strictly have to hide it from them! I'm an adult, I'm fully entitled to spend money I earned at my job on whatever I want. But... it'd just make life easier if I didn't have to awkwardly try and justify why I wanted a gaming laptop to them. A white lie is so much more appealing, they'll be none the wiser with the Gigabyte, y'know?
     
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    Well, I think you'll be happy with it if you're happy gaming at a lower than native resolution on some of your games, because I guess you don't want to have to turn down the detail levels too much for current & future games. Some people say they can't abide gaming lower than native resolution as they notice it degrades the image, you might not be one of those people. Have you experienced gaming at below native resolution - might be worth trying it on your current laptop to see what you think?
     
  50. n=1

    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    You could be pleasantly surprised. When I told my parents I bought a $3500 laptop my dad nearly had a heart attack, but begrudingly accepted that I paid for it with my own money and didn't make an overly big fuss.

    Then when I told them I was building a $2500 desktop one year later after the $3500 laptop, he basically just said "well ok if it makes you happy, and I guess it's your own money".
     
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