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    GTX 900M series officially announced by NVIDIA!!!

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Cakefish, Oct 7, 2014.

  1. M1keILL

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    Where are these 980M SLI laptops at
     
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    And you can only overclock your screen if you have Optimus disabled in the BIOS.
     
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    Hellmanjk Notebook Consultant

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    I really want this screen.
     
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    The np9377 has no optimus at all.
     
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    aqnb Notebook Evangelist

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    Hellmanjk Notebook Consultant

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    I offered this guy $90 for a used screen. It was $90 brand new but they stopped selling them. He has good ratings. The screen is so worth it especially if this is my last chance to get one...
     
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    Awww... well, I can live in hope! One of the discussion points on this week's WAN Show (from LinusTechTips youtube channel) concerning the 980M/970M was their lack of official TDP ratings. Linus and Ryan concluded that the reason is probably due to variable boost clock rates in the mobile parts that can be configured by the manufacturer of the laptop to best suit each chassis's cooling potential. So I guess that Gigabyte may have lowered boost clocks slightly to fit the 980M into the P35X v3 - but as long as it doesn't dip below base clock, I'm happy enough :)


    Sounds good but I can't wait that long. If I'm waiting that long, I'll have to wait the couple of months until Broadwell... and then the couple of months until GTX 1080M after that! I don't wish to wait any longer than another month. No more waiting. I've had enough with the waiting. The waiting game sucks! :p
     
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    Linus and his crew know near-zero about laptop hardware. They were "surprised" about a month and a half ago when seeing an 880M in an ASUS performing pretty closely to a GTX 770 without costing $1200 more. They've no idea about the modded vBIOS for the mobile kepler chips and don't even fully understand how mobile CPUs work. Take any of their speculation with a huge grain of salt. I mean, Linus STARED at the specs of a GTX 870M that was told to return itself as a GTX 760 in gigabyte's all-in-one mini PC and didn't even realize a single thing was off. And I know he looked, because he had it open on his own video, where I was able to write THIS THREAD based off of the information shown on it.

    Also, as far as I know, there have always been numbers. 680M was 100W and 780M/880M were 120W. If 970M and 980M don't have these, then something's just odd I suppose.

    Personally, I just hope they fixed the utterly stupid "feature" where if a game kicks your card above 2D clock states but doesn't pull massive amounts of power that it'll downclock itself and give stuttering. It's bothering people with 780s playing Final Fantasy 13 on steam and it bothers me using SLI in Dark Souls 2 or playing Dark Souls 1 without absolutely turning every single possible bell and whistle up that I can (whether I want to or not, I must, or I drop to 400/1600 effective clocks)
     
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    Is not that you have a bad GPU....XD, in my case with a 9650m gt drr2 is way worse because i was going to wait for the 960m, but now that it seems is not going to be released until q1 2015, maybe i will go for a 860m, or a 970m if a find a good deal
     
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    I am getting angry about Clevo removing 120hz monitor. Apparently its edp and the other screens are lvds so that makes me wonder if that means they use different mobos. IDK. So much crap on ebay, cannot make any sense of it. At this point I am wondering if Alienware will release an SLI 980m with 120hz 3D or something.
     
  11. NorrinRadd

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    Seriously? Can you confirm that Clevo will not make models with a 120Hz screen and a 980M? I suppose there's only the AW 17 left, then (if we do get it soon, since there are still no news on that front)... Also Eurocom as someone else here mentioned, but I read mixed reviews on them.
     
  12. Hellmanjk

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    Yeah Eurocom is still offering the 120hz screen. I am considering it but it might be a lack of updating their website. I asked them if they are still selling the 120hz screen. They charge a lot more... It says the 120hz screen is eDP. Eurocom is the same as sager or clevo, they just labeled the laptop with their brand.

    I'll get Alienware if they offer SLI with 120hz and 3D. Maybe if they offer 4K. Its stupid to offer 3D for one gpu on a laptop. Not gonna handle it.
     
  13. RMXO

    RMXO Notebook Deity

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    Damn it, I might as well wait for the next new architecture then. This waiting is kill me, I was waiting for the P35w/x to come out to see if its any good or go with the GS60/70. Now GB has to pull this out on me? ARGH! I'm not sure if I can wait this long, I've been waiting for over 6+ months now.
     
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    LG Display LP173WF2-TPB1 Overview - Panelook.com
    LG Display LP173WF2-TPB2 Overview - Panelook.com

    It's one of these two models you're supposed to find. That's what I was informed that mine was by Mythlogic.
     
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    NorrinRadd Notebook Consultant

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    No, I asked them if they still offer it since it's not listed as an option anymore, and they said that clevo discontinued them. I've been looking all over the place for a reseller with a 120hz option. AVADirect had it two days ago but it seems like they've removed it aswell.
     
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    Yeah I found the model name at Eurocom website then googled it on ebay. There are a lot of them. But that model is eDP while the other models are LVDS. Doesn't that mean there are two different models with two different motherboards? Or if I buy the NP9377 with the LVDS monitor, can I put in the 120hz eDP monitor?

    If you look here: http://www.eurocom.com/ec/components(240)ec at monitor options, the 60hz screen is LVDS while the 120hz is eDP. Idk what the hell that means but I googled it before and it said they are not compatible. Its gonna cost me a lot more to buy from Eurocom...
     
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    Phase Notebook Evangelist

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    you cant overclock the 4810mq on a sager laptop. just so everyone knows.... i fell for the trap myself
     
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    By the way reminding everyone that 60Hz displays aren't that bad cause you can OC them and get 90Hz and you don't even pay more then a 120Hz(impossible to get) display that costs you another 150 bucks
    And i recon high end laptop displays should be fine at 90-100fps OC's read up on a guide and try it out! :)
     
  20. Hellmanjk

    Hellmanjk Notebook Consultant

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    Dude what? Lol you can to. Ethrem has done it and so has many other people. You just do not know how. Download XTU.
    It costs $90-100 bucks and like others have said there is no guaranteed oc. And I shouldnt have to do that.
     
  21. Phase

    Phase Notebook Evangelist

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    i have. you cant up the voltage for turbo boost. the settings are grayed out. i emailed sager about it directly and they flat out said '' you can can only overclock extreme cpus on sager'' and i said '' other people have claimed to have overclocked this cpu'' and the rep said '' they were probably using alienware or msi laptops.''
     
  22. NorrinRadd

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    I don't think you can get 90Hz from every 60Hz display... And 120Hz is just perfection :p I still hope Alienware will announce the Alienware 17 with 980M & 120 Hz screen at an affordable price for me (~2500€ max).
     
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    Phase Notebook Evangelist

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    I am not concerned. There are mods.
    I would pay ~$3200 for that. Just because of the extra 3D option too. Under $3000 for only 120hz.
     
  25. Phase

    Phase Notebook Evangelist

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    can you direct me to a link or place that talks about these mods? i spent extra money on added copper cooling and ic diamond and a cooling pad just for the ability to overclock my cpu and i haven't been able to. my cpu only gets to 73c max on a full load. it runs waaaay cooler than my 880m lol. i'm a video editor so every ghz counts for me. it would be very helpful....
     
  26. jesha

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    Lots of laptop tn displays can do 80 and around 40% can do 90 thinking these high end laptops shud have decent screens they should be able to hit that sweet spot
     
  27. NorrinRadd

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    Yes, I'm afraid it'll end up costing over 3000€, and that's too much for me :( I don't care for 3D at all and only want the 2D 120Hz, a 980M, and a very solid build. If the GT72 2QE-211 came with a 120 Hz screen I'd be in heaven :D
     
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    I think a guy named Prima or something makes custom bios' for overclocking. Google his name or search the forum.
     
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    *sigh*

    Clevo has HAD models before. The current SM-A models are NOT refreshed in anyway; which means they have the capability to attach 120Hz screens.

    They are NOT producing any more 120Hz capable models in the future, and are not selling any more barebones with 120Hz screens anymore. This means you cannot currently BUY one from a rebrander or reseller like Sager/Mythlogic/Powernotebook/LPC-Digital/etc. Eurocom is still offering them, which is nice, but that is likely their own doing.

    I am telling him which models he has to look for to input a 120Hz screen into a P377SM-A if he were to buy one with 980Ms
     
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    Intel XTU... Throttlestop... Prema's unlocked system BIOS... there are a couple ways.
     
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    AW17 may have you covered.
     
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    And thank you. I briefly understand now that eDP is a built in displayport connection while LVDS is something else. The 120hz screens use an eDP connection while the 60hz do not. Are there two ports on the laptop mobo, one for LVDS and one for eDP? Or do they have seperate motherboards? Could you helpe me understand that? I have found a lot of the 120hz screens on ebay now, I just do not know if it will work with the current models. Isn't an eDP incompatible with an LVDS monitor. Someone help me understand.

    What I am saying is if I bought an NP9377 now it would come with a LVDS screen while the 120hz screen is eDP.
     
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    It's Prema, and he's a BIOS developer and mod over at TechInferno.
     
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    Thanks for the information mate. I'm sorry if my questions seem a bit idiotic - I'm really a complete newbie when it comes to hardware :) Cheers
     
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    Will I need a 50 pin connector to use the 120hz screen? Where can I find that?
     
  36. D2 Ultima

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    It's the way the screen connects to the board. This is why a 50 pin connector can't fit in a 40 pin sized notebook, but why 40 pin sized screens can fit in a 50 pin sized notebook. At least, as far as I remember.
     
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    Oh! But the eDP, LVDS difference does not matter? I just need to get a 50 pin connector for the 120hz screen and it will work? Or are you saying the 40 pin connector will work with the 50 pin 120hz screen?
     
  38. HopelesslyFaithful

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    because it allows you to get better single thread! So many many many programs are single thread limited
     
  39. D2 Ultima

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    You need to ask someone at Sager or Mythlogic or something about this exactly. And a motherboard with only a 40 pin connector cannot put a screen that needs a 50 pin connector into it. That should be obvious. I am saying a 40 pin connector screen can be put into a 50 pin connector motherboard. At least as far as I know. If you need to absolutely know more info, contact a rebrander (NOT a reseller)
     
  40. Hellmanjk

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    I think I am gonna go with eurocom. Whats the difference between the 4930mx and the 4940mx. They both are unlocked right? And just a 100mhz difference?
     
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    No real difference. They both pretty much OC to the same thing, and clock-for-clock 4930MX and 4940MX have been shown to get exactly the same CPU score (and I mean EXACTLY) in 3D mark benches. I can't remember when I saw it though, but it was a couple months ago. And go with Eurocom if you want I guess; just make sure you contact them and get everything in order first.
     
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    Yeah I sent like 5 message to 5 different sellers on ebay, Eurocom, and XoticPC. I asked Eurocom if they do not have anymore 120hz screens or what. They should get back yo me tomorrow.

    And there isn't a difference between sager and eurocom except price. Which isn't as bad as I thought. They both use the same clevo models.
     
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    I am considering Eurocom, but if I do end up getting a 120hz 980m SLI with the configuration I want from them, it'll cost $600 more. Might just stick with the 60hz screen from Exotic PC, because installing a 120hz myself would void the warranty, and I'm rough with laptops. :(
     
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    Pretty much like 2920/2960xm, 3920xm/3940xm etc.
     
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    What do you think of Eurocom generally? I read elsewhere that they were described as "shady" by an experienced user... Any positive or negative feedback you've heard?
     
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    I just read some really bad things about them too. Gonna see what their support says to me though.
     
  47. D2 Ultima

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    A LONG time ago (years) I remember awful awful experiences about Eurocom on this forum. I have since not heard anything good or bad about them, and I find it hard to find up-to-date information about resellers/rebranders for Sager these days, as there are quite a lot of them. I had heard Eurocom changed presidency or something and may be ok now, but I could be getting some names mixed up. You'd be best off asking about it in the resellers forum or in the Sager/Clevo sub-forum itself about this.
     
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    Thanks for sharing these with us HT!

    How does this perform with AA disabled and everything else maxed, or using postfx AA?
     
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    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    I have a Eurocom thread in the Sager reseller forum, so I won't go into details here except to say that after about 10 emails, they still shipped me the wrong parts, as in literally not a single part of the 3 they shipped me was anything I wanted. To be fair they did offer a full refund and let me keep the parts (which I have happily thrown away LOL), but it was not a pleasant experience.
     
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    Yes I saw that. I am willing to give them a chance since they are offering the 120hz screen. It all depends on what they say when they get back to me. If they do not have anymore screens then XoticPC. If they say they have them and they do not send me one I get a refund. Nothing lost.

    EDIT: They just got back to me with favorable news. So I will proceed and maybe order next week if everything is in order. And I will either have more good or bad news when I get it or if I order it. But I got a fast response.
     
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