GTX 900M series officially announced by NVIDIA!!!

Yep, that's good, that means you can charge the battery AND game at the same time - battery charging alone takes 80W on my system when it first starts charging.

 

HTWingNut
Notebookcheck stated that X7 pro has 200W PSU at their review. Anyway, the system draws around 220-230W at max during load sessions. Which is waaay beyond normal.

Few years back we had cold 680M and bulky 15-18" laptops with no problems cooling it down. In 2014 we have super hot haswell cpu's, 870-880M and 970-980M even in sli, in a tiny 13-17" chasis with lots of heat and power issues. Something doesn't seem right in here)

 

The Aorus X7 Pro (970M SLI) also outperforms the GTX 980 in some games. That's impressive, especially without good driver support.

I am eager to see what 980M SLI can do.

 

Sadly, I joined the ranks of 8 year old laptop users... Though I just couldn't resist, 970m inside 0.8 inch laptop AND the reviews say it doesn't get warm...

 

I appreciate what you're saying guys but I don't want this Clevo anymore. Not because it hasn't served me well or I don't like it but simply just because I really want that 'premium' feel. I have had a taste of high end laptop performance and now I want to experience high end screen, high end speakers, a more attractive design etc. I have the money for this. So much money I've been saving over literally years. I have amassed £5000 in savings - £3000-£4000 of which I am prepared to spend on computers/phones etc. Money is not an issue this time around, like it was last year when I got my Clevo.

Honestly, I'm getting sick and tired of this kerfuffle too, what with all these compromises and setbacks I'm forcing myself into.

A part of me is just thinking 'just give in, get the GT72 - to hell with it all!'. I could have it by the end of the week. It's just that I don't fancy carrying on hiding my gaming laptops from my family - and each time I travel home on the train having to carry TWO laptops with me just to keep up the stupid facade.

Ehhhhh... :/

EDIT: got a reply from GIGABYTE:

 

This is interesting!

The frames you can already guess at some Youtube videos.
Unfortunately, we do not know whether these were really tested with a 980m SLI.

The 724 Clevo support so for example the 980m SLI.
The frames will exceed the normal desktop 980.
It is generally complete!
If you can with the special circumstances of SLI live - as Microruckler below 30 fps, no Optimus and therefore always high energy consumption in idle .... - then the 980m SLI is only once the king of graphics cards in the mobile sector.
First of all!

 

It's your choice, buying a slim laptop with a somewhat measly 180W power supply is gonna mean you are making compromises; if it's what you want buy the Gigabyte, test it thoroughly, and then if it's rubbish then return it for a refund - you're not really gonna gain much more by asking the same questions over & over - it's like Groundhog Day but not as interesting!

 

Why are you wanting to hide it? Are they gonna chop your head off for gaming? My parents were soo soo against it initially it was like hell.. Now they have accepted it and they know they can't do anything about it...

 

It's your money, it's your decision, don't let anyone make you feel bad about what your priorities are.

That being said, I suspect most people here aren't trying to make you feel bad, but rather to make you aware of other options or factors that might influence your decision to help you be sure you are happy with your ultimate choice.

Good luck!

 

+1000... I only want you to get the best for your money... If I had known what was coming out, I wouldn't have got this half baked obsolete monster... 9 months on, I'm really regretting it.. I don't want you to get something half baked and regret wasting your hard earned money

 

I made compromises last year too when I bought this Clevo. Originally wanted SLI 780Ms but had to settle for single GPU due to cost reasons. I've been making compromises the whole time I've been in PC gaming - heck, a laptop in itself is a compromise in the very first place compared to desktops! I realise you're all sick of me blabbering on by now, and I really do appreciate that - I don't mean to be a pest. Sorry. The reply I have received from GIGABYTE has given me enough confidence to try out the P35X v3 and like you say; if it turns out awful, I can always return it!

It's not the gaming I want to hide. I don't care one iota them knowing that I like to play video games. Not ashamed of that at all. It's the cost thing. I'm a student at the moment and quite reliant on some members of my family for financial support - if they see me spending huge amounts of cash on a luxury item - well, doesn't paint a good impression does it? Never mind the fact I earned a significant chunk of my savings through the full-time job I had from March to September (and previous jobs too) - they expect me to spend my money responsibly. It's due to the fact that I'm much better at saving money than they ever realise that I have amassed such a healthy savings account. I purposely avoid buying shiny new clothes, shoes, other luxury items etc. too often for the sake of my passion for gaming. That's why it's so much more preferable for me to have a really 'normal' looking laptop that doesn't scream 'I am a gaming laptop!" - because everyone knows gaming laptops are costly! Hope that makes sense

Oh, I realise that! Don't worry, I don't think badly of any of you. This community is my favourite online community. All the advice I receive here is very informative, useful and interesting. It's amazing how much my skills have grown since last year alone - I was terrified about simply opening the base panel off my Clevo for the first time, let alone trying a repaste of a GPU (having never tried to before) - and now I feel I can confidently do that same task routinely. Same story with flashing VBIOS and system BIOS mods. I learn a lot hanging around these forums. I appreciate everyone's advice. I know you're all just giving your opinions and advice with good intentions

 

Where did you find that price????

 

Cool, just go ahead & buy it now, when you put it through it's paces report back with your findings - it will be interesting to see how it fares in all respects.

 

from Cjscope, the taiwanese reseller for Clevo. Essentially i'm buying straight from the source (since Clevo is being made here), saves a lot of taxes.
That setup comes down to 48 000 Taiwan Dollar, which is about 1200 euro.
You can reproduce my setup on their website for a price check, CJSCOPE - You design , We make ! and customize the "HX 550" model. It's all in Chinese though ...

 

A similar setup on Mythlogic (for US buyers) comes in at just under $1500, and you can get it almost to $1400 if you get it with no OS.

 

Er, which button is customize?

 

yeah, that is about the same outcome, if not a little bit cheaper (converted that is 1175.39 Euro).

In any case, do you think that laptop setup would provide me the necessary gpu/cpu power for the coming years to enjoy fast working and play games in relatively high detail?

To make it a bit easier to navigate, http://cjscope.com/cht/custom_1.php?serial=93&s=r (the direct link to the HX customization page)

 

I'll be the best darn pioneering guinea pig ever. Not just any guinea pig, no; I shall be remembered forever as The Guinea Pig.

 

I'm looking at doing pretty much the same thing - getting the P650 as barebones as possible and reusing my own hard drive. Seems like a good option to me... although the low RAM and HD will limit the performance you (and I) can get until you (or I) can upgrade them.

 

ram and HDD aren't much of an issue since those can easily be upgraded afterwards (it's just that my current laptop is about to die and i need a solid replacement that will keep me going for a few years). If 500gb HDD turns out to be insufficient or 8gig ram is not enough i'll bring it back to Cjscope's outlet and they can upgrade it on the spot.

 

Yep, I'm in the same situation. That was pretty much my thinking, too, only I'd be doing the upgrades myself

 

You did not read the review closely enough. I inserted comments.

Although they also did say the 970m was not fast enough for gaming at 4k, but no surprise there.

 

Surprised they did not include any native 4k benchmarks with this review.

If it only dropped 17fps down to avg 38fps @ 4k on Ultra for BF4, which is one of the most demanding games out there, that is still pretty damn good IMO. If you don't need to have every single setting maxed, sounds like it will run BF4 at 4k just fine.

EDIT: NVM, I see it dropped 66% down to 17fps

 

Are you sure the 3K model has a glossy screen? As Overclockers UK says it has an Anti Glare screen
I'm also trying to decide between the P35X V3-CF1 and the P35X V3-CF2

 

Lol!!! What a prices!!!
Here (Spain) they cost 1700€ at least

 

I'm toying with getting the glossy 4K screen on the P650, but I'm also likely to get annoyed by reflections.

Fortunately, there is an option to consider - there are aftermarket anti-glare screen protectors (3M, ViewGuard) for which others on this forum have given positive feedback, and they're about $25 shipped.

 

Hmm now I am wondering, which would be better, 1080p native resolution or 1440p resolution on a 4k screen. You would get some added blurring from the scaling, but the higher resolution might offset that to make it look even nicer. Also you could drop AA by a x2 which would decrease blurring caused by it. Anyone happen to have a 4k screen they could test on?

 

if the game supports SLI, which nearly all AAA title games do, then GTX 970m sli will perform better. It matches at or slightly above the desktop GTX 980. Chinese review here: GeForce GTX 970M SLI 配置，17 吋 Aorus X7 Pro 遊戲筆電實測 - VR-Zone 中文版

 

@cakefish - if your family is anything like mine they couldn't tell a $3000 laptop from a $1000 one. But I'm fancying that gigabyte p35x also. Just concerned about thermals with 980m and keyboard flex. I may have to wait anyhow though because I have my kids' birthday soon, then a trip to Disney, then Christmas... not to mention car insurance, home owners insurance due... ugh.

 

Your inserted comments didn't add any clarity to what I gained from reading the review, it's still a noisy notebook which I pointed out (even if it's not particularly noisy for a thin laptop). 4K problem still stands regardless of the reason for the problem.

 

Actually there are very few high end gaming laptops that quiet, the Asus g750 is quieter, the new g751, and MSI gt72 might be. It is quieter than the MSI GT70 though, and better than the vast majority of gaming laptops including nearly all Clevos so far. Of course gaming laptops tend to be loud, but this is quieter than most, and likely quieter than any other gaming laptop under 1 inch thick. So I have to disagree with your assessment there.

 

Still catching up on here, but noticed that a vast majority of people are either going gigabyte or MSI, I'm surprised noone offers a 1440p solution in the US. Since I shipped back my laptop I should be getting credit so I'm stuck with the particular vendor at this point, however my intent was to exchange to a 15" since the 13" variant was nice and all I just couldn't stand the noise/tint.

Would the 8258/8268 be a bad choice as of now, or what do you guys recommend for a 15" size? I travel a lot so I game on the go when I'm not working, however since I bring my laptop into work I still need something for that business look. I'm also looking to go the 980m route vs 970. I've been w/ Sager forever so if something else it'd be my first voyage out. Appreciate any tips, mainly looking for anyone that upgraded from the 13" size to a 15, I'd go 17 but its a bit big. 15 would seem to be the sweet spot at this point. Googling the ones people have mentioned currently.

 

More Gigabyte info: (good news everyone!)

I asked for more information on exactly how the cooling system has been upgraded on the P35X v3 compared to P35W v2 - is it larger fans, more heatpipes, better quality heatsinks or something else along those lines? Also asked about performing self-upgrades after receiving the laptop in terms of RAM and SSD storage (which requires the removal of the base panel to replace the preconfigured 1TB HDD) and how that would impact the warranty.

Another user of the forums asked whether the P35W v3 would receive the same upgrades as the P35X v3 and got this response:

 

Sager will be announcing their version of the new relatively slim 15" Clevo with 980m and 970m soon, currently available in US through Mythologic.

 

Too much activity in this thread for me to be able to keep up with my ipad lol.

 

It that's the case, then fair enough, I haven't checked all their decibel readings & compared them, I was simply going off their statement of "high system noise", maybe they chose their words wrongly if most other gaming laptops are louder - I'll take your word for it (if I was in the market to buy one then I'd compare all the numbers myself before choosing one).

 

This is probably a case of absolute vs relative. In absolute terms, yes that Clevo is loud, but relative to other gaming laptops, it's not so bad.

 

So, this just happened:

Spoiler

This is how I feel right now:

Spoiler

 

Congrats! So is it in stock or is it pre-order?

 

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Good stuff Cakefish, you went for it! I have to say I didn't listen to all 2 hours of your music link!

 

Yeah good way to say it, notebookcheck compares amongst ALL laptops, Of which nearly every gaming laptop is considered very loud. Even the Asus g750 which is praised for how quiet it is, is still louder than average amongst all laptops.

I really have to wonder how much quieter the p651sg will be though, its probably has a thicker CPU fan, also likely a larger radiator surface. Also if that CPU fan in the Notebook check review was upside down, and they replaced it in the actual production models (They did have a preproduction sample), that could make a difference too.

 

P651SE CPU fan is butts as far as I see, should be bigger/dual XD

 

Notebook fan noise has never been an issue for me. My AC is louder than the fans, I often use headphones while working or gaming on laptop, and I live in the city where there is a lot of traffic anyways.

You should hear the crazy sounds of the desktop fans in the editing bays where I have worked!

 

Good good! Looking forward to some benchmarks and your temps! (if they hold up I might send back MSI and get p35x v3, fingers crossed!!)

 

Sadly, the latter

ETA 31/10

It loops every 5 minutes anyway so that's fine

 

Somebody knows where can i find a gamimg laptop with 970m for less than 1500€???

 

In Spain? Not going to happen, but you can get an XMG with spanish keyboard, here is a post talking about XMG on spanish

Opiniones sobre los portatiles XMG

 

Love that one!


Makes me feel like

Spoiler

 

I need some reviews;

- 15.6" ips 1080p (unless 4k)
- 980m
- 48xx cpu
16gb ram
2x 500gb evo 840 m sata (raid /w OS installed)
1x 1TB evo 840 hdd
optical area (switched in future for hdd)


but no one in australia stocks one... not even sager clevo....BAH!