GTX 900M series officially announced by NVIDIA!!!

It has only really been one generation.

 

If this is for real why in the world would I buy the P35x V3 over the Aorus X7 Pro?

I mean if I am going to get Desktop performance out of a slim 17 inch laptop that has a sweet chassis I don't see what the hold up is.

Do you have a BF4 one?

 

i guess it depends if you want a 15" or 17" laptop

 

But to me it's a huge difference between 970m SLI and 980m single.

Am I missing something or is everyone going to buy up the Aorus X7 Pro's and will be sold out forever?

 

Depends if you want to upgrade it in future too and how much you intend to overclock.

 

i had a wise sage tell me in another thread that there is no point getting the top of the line; best to just pay the no frills and get a new notebook in a couple years. makes sense really

 

The Aorux X7 is not upgradeable, and may run warm because of its thin form factor after long periods of gaming. But it does manage temperatures fairly well considering. In my opinion, it's pretty expensive for what you get. However, they are the only ones who offer that level of performance in that form factor, so far. Maybe that can justify the price for you? Not sure. That's up for you to decide.

My 980M arrives next week. I'll be installing it in an Alienware 17 with a 4930MX @ 4.3GHz. I'll play some games and run benchmarks. :thumbsup: With proper driver support, the 980M should perform almost identically to a GTX 780. I believe the GTX 780 scores about 13000-13900 in 3DMark 11 (stock) and the 980M scores around 12000 with a 4710HQ.

EDIT: I'm pretty sure when the 980M is overclocked it will outperform a GTX 780. And I am willing to bet the 970M can be overclocked fairly well also.

 

Speaking in regards to what? Maximum settings? If you lower settings, you'll be able to play games for longer.

I would never expect a laptop to last that long (5+ years) on maximum settings. The 780M was crushed in 12 months. If you want longevity, you should build a desktop.

 

The next generation of games will be released next year. They will be extremely demanding. It's hard to say...

If I had to guess, I'd say 2 years for sure. Basically 1 - 1.5 years per GPU. But there's no way they'll be able to max out games for 5+ years.

 

Considering the average life expectancy of a laptop is 2-3 years it would be wiser to spend the no-frills cheapo that can play games and upgrade when you know a better chipset will be coming, say the pascal in 2 years. buy a cheap one to get you going then when the new architecture is out; go big...

ps,

im going from a core i5 12" tablet (hp tm2t) with a radeon 5950........ so no matter what im going to be happy

 

I will say that there ARE people who want and will use top of the line. I am one of those people. My 780Ms have been amazing, but I've not been able to 100% max games and get 120fps in every single one that supports 120Hz yet, for example. It all depends on what YOU want and need and will use.

Me? I am a streamer and a gamer at heart. I would use a 4.5GHz i7-4940MX, 2 x 8GB DDR3 2133MHz RAM, 980M SLI and 1TB high-grade SSD storage for my machine and use EVERY SINGLE DROP OF ITS POWER almost on a daily. You likely would not use a system as much as me. It's like I told people... I once managed to get my southbridge chip (the PCB) over 100 degrees on a cool night. What was I doing? The following, at the same time:

Playing CoD: Black Ops 2 @ 1080p, max graphics, 16xQ CSAA, FXAA at 120FPS constant
Watching THREE livestreams on second monitor, all 720p and either 30 or 60fps
Ripping DVD for use on PC with handbrake using "slow" encoding preset with "high" encoding profile and "4.1" as the x264 level.

This is the kinda stuff I just "feel" like doing one day, so I do it, because why wait/do it separately? Because I bought a strong machine and it *WILL* do what I want it to unless it runs out of power doing said tasks. There isn't such a thing as "too much power" where I am concerned you see. If you're a user like that? Then you'll want top dollar and probably you'll upgrade every other cycle (or when something has +25% power increase or better).

 

I feel sorry for your laptop

 

Bro put me in an air conditioned room with the setup I said I would use and give me 4Mb upload on my internet... see what I manage to do with that thing.....

 

I clicked ahead a little over a dozen pages, but no one has responded to this yet. In a few years, I might want to look at swapping out my 880M's. Was also wondering the same thing sixpack is. Anybody know?

 

I would actually want to see that one day haha. Is the room temperature directly related to laptop's temperatures? What I mean is even if the laptop has an external cooler under it, would having a cooler room alter the temps of the system significantly?

 

I'm pretty sure you can upgrade to 980m in your 9377-s. In XoticPC and Gentech they are already being sold with 980m in them so I am assuming it is possible. However I don't know about the next gen cards

 

Is anyone able to give me links for the GS70 in europe for under 1500€?

 

Yeah my assumption is that the model is unchanged, so that leads me to believe. But who knows what shenanigans the mobo's been put through to accommodate this new hardware? Even if the interface is the same, I'm not educated enough about it to know if that's all that's required.

 

I believe prema already has it working on the older SMs.

 

If Prema brings a BIOS out, then sure. Heatsinks may not need to change, but we won't know till we get some regular 980Ms in our hands, so you'll need to check about that later when they're circulated a bit more.

 

Certainly makes at least some difference. Haven't quantified how much exactly in terms of temps, but on a couple occasions my laptop shutdown under load in a warm room but was fine after I got the AC hitting it full blast.

 

Depends on if you plan to run games that don't scale well with SLI, or games that benefit from having more than the X7 Pro's somewhat low 3GB VRAM.

We can upgrade the P35x v3? This thing uses MXM?

 

Yes, SIGNIFICANTLY. The temperature and humidity of the air being piped into the cooling system GREATLY affects the quality of the cooling.

For example: At home, during the night (28 degrees C or so I'd say) if I play CS:GO at max graphics (16xQ CSAA) I can easily crack 80 deg on my CPU (stock, -50mV downvolt) and 74 or so on my main GPU (running it single-card). My room is quite stagnant though, and even though I have a fan blowing at the laptop AND the machine itself is propped up to improve airflow, it's still essentially bad air blowing around. This is using max fans.

Then when at school, I've got a HUGE classroom (100+ students can fit in it, it's a long rectangle; only 5 desk spaces wide, though a bit over 20 spaces long) and one AC at the front and one AC at the back, to the left side. I can sit at the right of one AC (so no air being actually blown at me at all) and play without using max fans, without propping the machine up, with a bunch of people around me, and never crack 75 deg on my CPU or 66 on the GPU. The AC is set to 25 deg C

Temp difference should only be a little bit, but honestly the new air that's being moved around the classroom is much cooler, rather than the hot air being simply blown at a high pace at my laptop when at home. So yes, ambient temperatures and the stagnancy of the air in a room is SERIOUSLY impacting on the heat a laptop sees.

Now, take into account that today was 35 degrees around 2pm at home, and didn't even cool down to 30 degrees until about 9pm. Now see how difficult it is to do some things. It's a serious testament to my laptop's cooling that I find it difficult to find a game that actually makes it properly overheat (95c+ CPU, 90+GPU) in the daytime, to be honest. I really wish I had a portable AC or an actual AC for this room, I'd keep my CPU at 3.8 or 3.9GHz constant and probably OC my GPUs for most games that need it to be honest.

 

That's what I thought. Thanks! I will be gaming with my sweater on then

 

Haha, does your professor know you are playing games during his lecture?

 

I have 2 hour breaks between classes and nobody uses the room, so we sit in it and chat/etc till our next class begins. I sit closer to the middle of the class with no plug during lectures, so no gaming for me then.

Alternately, even if I do game in class (one class has the room with plugs next to most seats), I'm never delinquent about it. I'll always be listening to the lecture/asking questions if I don't get something etc, and I never game if I don't completely understand what's being taught (sometimes teachers go back and re-explain things to students who don't get it; at this point I have nothing to do in class)

 

you can invest in one of those small portable AC's. I think they'll serve you well. I didn't know the room temp was that crucial. Thanks.

 

Well all the money I had set aside for things to help cooling got spent on things necessary to fix the stupid issue with my power button (which of all things appears to have gone away on its own... I still don't trust it very much). I ended up spending over $650 USD after purchase with shipping for warranty repairs and buying APC line conditioners to help with power surges and all sorts of crap I should not have had to deal with. I'm a student and my country doesn't have many part-time jobs or anything of that sort. It's just not our culture. So portable ACs would be out of the question, or I'd have been using one already haha. Maybe if I didn't have to send this to fix and buy all that extra gear I would have had it already.

 

Wow $650?! I know man. I'm a student as well. It's though. I honestly dream about finding an abandoned bag of money in central park sometimes hahaah anyways I looked it up and there are some really cheap AC's. Not sure if they are good or not but you can have a look.

http://www.amazon.com/SF-609-Portab...F8&qid=1413525505&sr=1-1&keywords=portable+ac

 

My budget is exactly "enough to go to class and come home", which is why I have no chance for anything like that. My friends are the ones helping me out with thermal paste and stuff; I don't even have enough for that.

 

Cool, the pics are of 880M cards according to the code on the chip though - I was interested in seeing what the chip layout was based around whether Kepler heatsinks would need much modifying to run them. (apologies if this has been mentioned already in previous pages, I'm yet to read all of them yet today!).

(EDIT: yes, it's been mentioned already!)

 

Not sure if been posted but 980M MXM Card

Alienware 18 M18 17 M17 VGA Upgrade KIT NEW Nvidia GTX 980M 8GB DDR5 | eBay

My Future upgrade will be this can't afford it right now... but yeah

Do we know what the TDP is for the 980M 8GB one?

 

Cool, thanks for the pic of the 980M. Looks like chip positions are exactly the same as Kepler, except that there is an extra inductor (think that's what those 4 large light grey tall square blocks are at the top of the card). That extra inductor (2nd one from the left) could foul solid metal on some heatsinks I think - like mine from memory, but I'd have to check to be sure. I also noticed that the top right inductor has been shifted about 5mm to the right of the corresponding Kepler inductor. So, those 2 inductor positions are different, but everything else looks the same to me in terms of significant chip placement.

 

We don't even know if that's the standard card layout. That's an MSI card. MSI and ASUS both tweak their designs. We'll have to wait for Clevo or Dell to be certain.

I'd be kind of surprised if the layout isn't the same... even my Dell 260M GTX has the same layout as my Clevo 880M (with the exception of the 880M having more VRMs I believe) and since Clevo is using the SM-A machines, I'd imagine they must be drop in parts.

 

Damn, and I thought 28C in my room was unbearable. Then one hot summer day it got up to 30C and I was ready to riot.

Really not looking forward to next summer, and either it gets hotter every summer, or my heat tolerance drops every year. Maybe I should invest in a portable AC unit, especially since now I have a desktop that could double as a space heater lol

 

In my experience, whenever I've seen pics of MXM modules of the Kepler range, the layouts are always the same between manufacturers (apart from Asus of course), with differences being number of VRAM chips if cards have different amounts of VRAM - this is based on me seeing Kepler cards (didn't pay any attention to Fermi). Layouts of chips did change between Fermi & Kepler though.

 

I'm not saying it's not possible. In fact given the problems the inductors had with the 880M, it would probably be a smart move to add another. Guess we will have to see. I'm pretty sure my heatsink would accommodate such a change anyway as Clevo heatsinks are designed as a flat block with thermal pads where the inductors would be.

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Is that why you went up north, to escape the California drought?

Yeah a portable AC unit is not a bad investment. I got one this summer. Ended up even saving on my electricity bill since I didn't have to turn on the less-effective central AC as often.

 

Everyone will likely use the reference MXM layout as doing your own is expensive and not usually required.

 

Yes. In summer my temps creep up noticeably, but in winter they are much more manageable. That's with British weather. Some here live in far, far warmer countries!

Hallelujah!

 

The sacrifices we make for our hobby #FirstWorldProblems

Actually if I get the P35x, I would like to try building something DIY out of liquid nitrogen to keep it ice cold while gaming, see if it improves performance. Where is the girl from Frozen when you need her?

 

I just want my p35x

 

Apart from Asus right? That's what I'm thinking, I'm expecting all the layouts to be the same as the pic you posted apart from Asus.

 

I have tried with nvidia GPU selected. Intel CPU selected, DOS, Windows. It either says it can't detect the card, or it gives me this error:



I have turned secure boot off, run UEFI with CSM, legacy boot into DOS. Used --protectoff command, and -4 -5 -6 980m.rom -f.

Latest nvflash Windows is 5.190, DOS is 5.163. It seems 5.190 is missing some commands because it doesn't recognize the -4 -5 -6 because help pops up when I run it with those flash options, and apparently 5.190 is supposed to support the latest 900m series cards.

Perhaps if you put the card in a Clevo or AW or other MXM laptop it might be possible. I dunno.

WinFlash is for AMD/ATI cards isn't it?

 

I hope NVidia haven't done something to lock down the vBIOS - if that's even possible?

 

I found the same error on 750 Ti forums.

The problem? Trying to flash with nvflash in Windows.

It looks like for this one, if DOS doesn't work, you're out of luck :\

NVIDIA GTX 750Ti / 750 (Maxwell) Owner's club - Page 62

 

it's a long shot, but has anyone tried playing The Witcher 2 on a laptop with the GTX 970M? If so, how well does it run on 1080p with high settings (minus the pc killing supersampling option ofc)

 

Decent results there. 50% above GTX 880M like expected

 

Houston do we have a brick?

 

Does DSR works on 9xxm? And does it work on practice on Optimus systems with these gpus?

P.S. Anyone tried if DSR exists on non-Optimus 8xxm cards with latest 344.24?