GTX 900M series officially announced by NVIDIA!!!

Besides the Gigabyte P35X V3, what other laptops that are currently announced that have the following features?

GTX 980M
SSD (mSATA or 2.5mm)
HDD
Optical Disc Drive
15.6 Inch

From the top of my head... none?

 

Who on earth would want to game with 1FPS?

 

Wait a minute, on ebay we can see that upgradeyourlaptop's 980m work on M17x R2 ??? It's hard to believe but if it's right that's an huge jump from 7970m crossfire ! Now we just need someone to hack sli like 580m.

 

Ever heard of old/non-demanding games that run at 1000 FPS?

 

Yes, but there are limits on how much you want to deal with those damn exploding mines from not paying full attention to the board :/

 

question whats DRS?

 

Wut.

Dynamic Super Resolution, basically built-in supersampling (using rectangular grid w/Gaussian filter) in the Nvidia Control Panel.

 

Aww is this the new even though your screen doesn't support we will render the image high res then scale down (probably SVD stuff) and then display?

 

Now that I've got the preordering out of the way, my attention now turns to sourcing additional parts to install as soon as the laptop is in my hands!

I'm going to upgrade the RAM as it's only single channel 1x8GB preconfigured (booo!). I plan to add another 8GB DDR3L 1600 MHz stick to boost overall memory to 16GB. I'll also purchase the Samsung 850 Pro 1TB drive to replace that preconfigured HDD, as we all know once you go SSD you can never go back!

 

I'd suggest the 960GB Sandisk Extreme Pro.. It will have excellent performance and be much cheaper...

 

not cheaper but better...been telling him that for many many pages.

Also does DSR even work? i tried using AA in CCC for RTC 3 and it made the entire game just blurry :/ I'll take 1920x1200 blocky over blurry.

 

That's one of the main selling points of DSR, it's supposed to work in every game regardless of API and forward/deferred shading. And the Gaussian filter lets you adjust how sharp or blurry the image is.

 

It still won't work, and/or have bugs in some games.

Essentially if you use DSR on a 1080p screen doing a 4:1 ratio, you will get an option in the games resolution settings for "3840 x 2160 4:1 DSR" (might have the name there wrong). The graphics card will then actually run the game as a 4k resolution but down sample it to 1080p before sending it to the screen.

There are a few reasons this will fail to work in a game.
* The game does not have a method to change resolution, or only allows certain preset resolution options.
* The game fails to run properly at 4k (some run in a square surrounded by black in the middle of the screen.)
* The game does not properly scale certain parts like the GUI instead making it really tiny and unusable at 4k, thus when it is down sampled it is still tiny and unusable.

However it should be by and large backwards compatible with any game that theoretically could be run properly at 4k resolution.

 

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M Performance Testing - Mobile Gaming at its Best

 

Thanks for sharing. Was just watching that and about to post it as well.

What concerned me is the feature he described at 6:45. Here we are again sacrificing performance for efficiency or battery life. I hate that.

 

Why hate a feature that's optional and only for when on battery?

 

Because it's changing the status quo for gaming laptops in general. Optimus is bad enough.

They're getting into this habit of thinking that battery life is more important than performance. Seems like a step backwards to me. It's one thing to incorporate this technology in lower end gaming laptops but we're talking about the "behemoth" of GPU's for mobile gaming, lol.

 

Exactly, who the hell runs games while on battery?

 

Did I ever tell you what the definition of insanity is?

 

umm every computer since ever has reduced performance on battery and for several good reasons:

1. batteries are not big enough
2. Batteries can't put out the voltage/amps (w) needed to run at full power. I remember "bricking" my G51j when i OC and gamed. When i would play a game and power went out or i unplugged to power cord to move the computer would "brick" because the battery can't handle more then 80+w. The laptop could draw 160ws IIRC? so way way more then any battery could support besides maybe some beefy LiFEPO4 cell (maybe). The thing was the laptop couldn't switch to battery speeds before the battery PCB "bricked" the whole thing. This still holds today. I bet i could do that on my R4 if i wanted to try to.

so in another words what are you talking about J.Dre? all laptops have been throttled on battery forever unless its a low performance laptop but even then they are too.

 

This controls that throttle and aims to give you a stable frame rate that's good enough to get by.

 

I've fallen in love with the Samsung Magician software, it's a really nice application. The 850 Pro is supposed to be the best performer in the world of SSDs right now. I'll definitely check reviews of that Sandisk out though!

Have I entered a parallel dimension? I don't recall us discussing SSDs at all lately?

 

Conversely, who buys a laptop to tether to an outlet at all times when what they really wanted was a desktop PC?

 

Quote from the video: "Based on our testing while playing games on the system, the GTX 980M-based GT72 notebook would draw just over 200 watts of power while plugged in"

The Gigabyte P35W V3 will have an 180W Power Supply.... imminent failure?

 

They probably have it gimped

 

A smaller screen will consume less power etc.

 

New review of MSI GS60 Ghost Pro with GTX 970M and 3K screen:

MSI GS60 Ghost Pro 3K 2QE Review (Gold w/ GTX970m) | KitGuru

Temperatures seem much improved compared to previous 3K display Kepler GTX 870M version.

Playing Tomb Raider they got these temperatures:

- max chassis bottom: 49 C
- max CPU: 80 C
- max GPU: 75 C

And it seems even just GTX 970M is doing pretty well at its native 3K resolution, many games are perfectly playable:

Tomb Raider: avg 40 fps (min 34 fps) at 2880×1620 Ultra Quality
Shadow of Mordor: avg 45 fps (min 18 fps) at 2880×1620 High/Ultra Quality

Plus from earlier review:

Skyrim: 60 fps at 2880×1620 max settings, no AA, no AF
Crysis 3: 40-60 fps at 2880×1620 medium settings, no AA, 1x AF

MSI GS60 Ghost Pro 3K review - Nvidia GTX 970M & 870M versions

Starting to look pretty good for MSI GS60. The only trouble for me is non-availability of 6 GB VRAM GTX 970M versions.

Though its competition Gigabyte P34W v3 and P35W v3 (that do have 6 GB VRAM) are also not available (Clevo P650/P651 with GTX 970M only exist in 3 GB VRAM version).

Only 52 Wh battery in MSI GS60 vs 75.8 Wh in P35W v3 sucks too, but that's not that important for me, plus there is only FHD version of 14" and 15" Gigabyte with GTX 970M, 3K is only in 15" GTX 980M model.

 

When you play on lower end machines, like 820M with a i3 or something, or a ULV + low-end GPU etc? The on-battery performance and plugged-in performance has been generally the same. My old HP DV6000 with intel GMA X3100 laptop and a 1.73GHz core 2 duo does this. Many of the weaksauce, 2-year-old laptops that are sold as "new" in this country that most people in my university use get the same performance on battery as they do plugged in. And they don't really get problems with shutting down etc. What J.Dre is saying is that weaker machines, up to maybe the 850M-esque class of GPUs, would benefit the most from this, rather than trying to make it a selling point of the huge, power-hungry flagship GPUs, because Joe Public who doesn't know that battery gaming is an awful, awful thing to do with intense games on these kinds of machines (because I can play Binding of Isaac or Beat Hazard or hell, CS:GO even; those kinds of low-power games on battery without much problems, and those are just fine) and will assume that it's now ok to unplug and go play BF4 on wireless or something, not knowing they're ripping their battery apart in the process.

 

For the P35X V3 this would work out like:

i7-4860HQ = 47W ( ARK | Intel® Core™ i7-4860HQ Processor (6M Cache, up to 3.60 GHz))
GTX 980M = 100W ( Nvidia Geforce GTX 980M Specifications: Twice the GTX 680M Gaming performance)
2x 128GB mSATA SSD = 4W Results: Power Consumption - Samsung 840 EVO mSATA Review: 120, 250, 500, And 1000 GB, Tested
2x 8GB DDR3L (16GB) = 8W ( DDR3 SDRAM - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)
1TB 7200rpm HDD = 2W ( Travelstar 7K1000 | HGST Storage)
------- +
161 Watts power draw (max) and this is without the screen, mainboard, WiFi, USB equipment etc

That's pushing it if you ask me

 

First people actually gaming on 980m laptops almost always report numbers more like 160-175w total power draw, the 200w+ tend to be from stress tests including furmark so I suspect that 200w number and wish they told us what the laptop was running at the time.

Even if it really is only about 170w in actual gaming (like Crysis 3/BF4) the 180w leaves very little overhead so you may need to avoid some not uncommon practices.
- adding more RAM (estimates normally are 2-3w per 8GB stick I believe)
- adding more HDD drives (3-6w depending on if idle or in use is normal I think)
- adding more SSD drives (3w if in use probably won't affect average power, but could raise spikes if using a raid configuration)
- using USB ports to power other things (Optical Drive, Cooling pad, Mouse, external Keyboard)
- overclocking CPU, GPU, RAM, etc...

So 180w is probably barely adequate, and I would try to get at least a 200-220w if you can.

 

It's older sibling P35W v2, with Kepler GTX 870M apparently drew max 176 watts under load. Maxwell GTX 980M should have similar TDP as Kepler GTX 870M, so 180 watt power supply should be still ok.

Gigabyte P35W v2 Notebook Review - NotebookCheck.net Reviews

 

The p35x only comes in a 4710hq

 

No. I comes with a 4860 too

 

As soon as I get my mine, I'll benchmark all the most taxing games; like Crysis 3, Metro Last Light, Far Cry 3, The Witcher 2, Shadow Warrior, Tomb Raider etc. and see what GPU-Z has to say about clockspeed.

If MSI could get away with it with their GT70 series with the power-guzzling 880M then I don't see why Gigabyte P35X v3 can't at stock clocks. I'm holding out hope

980M should be 85W TDP according to the one and only Prema!

That's OK, I understood I would have to give up overclocking when I made the purchase. I'll be content with stock clocks seeing how much headroom, in terms of performance, the 980M has to play around with at native 1080p.

I'm hoping the more efficient 980M will help lower power consumption a little.

The 3K models have the i7-4860HQ here in the UK. The 1080p models have the i7-4710HQ.

 

Yup, I'd go with 3K display if I wanted a 15". For sure.

And those are great temps for GS60. Maxwell (970M) is truly a godsend for thin notebooks.
GS60 2PE, same notebook but with GTX 870M had the GPU running at 93C (now 75C) while the CPU was 85C (now 80C, higher clocked too). All of this, and 970M are way ahead of 870M in performance.

GS60 with 3K looks like a good option this time for people who want portability beast
Awesome

 

Link? ........

 

This! There have been plenty of times I gamed while at an airport where power were outlets are at a premium. Any advancement for untethered gaming is a big plus.

 

Those temps are excellent! Can we assume the GS70 Stealth Pro w/ 970m will have similar temps?

 

DSR lets you choose different multis of native resolution from 1.2x up to 4x.

 

I got my GS70 yesterday and am in the process of reloading windows and all that. I did run 3dmark with gpu-z running before wiping the drive and had a max temp of 88. I'll be trying some games out later on tonight and see how it goes.

 

GIGABYTE - Laptop - Laptop - P series - P35X v3

Hush now... else you'll make me change my mind!

 

Search on the gigabyte site

 

From what I have been told is the 200w rating is after the efficiency calculations so a 240w draw at 80% gives u 192w psu

My SB netbook throttles on battery so that's why I said what I said...maybe others don't but the low end laptops still throttle on battery from my experience

 

Cool thanks but I haven't seen anyone sell one of them yet. So I'll believe it when I see it.

Downscaling is my issue with the 3k screens on the p35x

 

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=LT-030-GI

Sent from my Nexus 5

 

Can anyone post a link where to buy the MSI GS60 and GS70 in the german speaking countries?
I found the GS70 for 1500€ but i still couldnt find the GS60 for under 1900€ for some reason.
I dont mind if i would buy it from spain or france.
Please

 

Hmm, that's a large difference. If you could post the temps after your real-world gaming run, that'd be great!

 

I think you're missing out on games being stunning smooth. One thing is that your 980M is even more powerful than that 970M GS60, another is that there is a lot of older games where 3K and 60FPS+ could have awaited you. Or gaming on lower res than 3k but higher than 1080p for other.

Oh well, you do what you want :

 

How is gigabyte global warranty?

I think ive been convinced on the 3k model

 

Guys wait for some benchmarks and temps on Gigabyte p35x v3, previous version got unacceptably hot even with 870m. Some heat readings were ridiculous, and the build quality might be dangerous, just wait for a few benchmarks before dropping your money.