GTX 900M series officially announced by NVIDIA!!!

Would it be possible for Arenanet to upgrade to dx12 when that comes out? maybe they are waiting for it?

 

God I hope not! Most applications these days are multi-threaded (heck I don't myself code something less than 32 threads these days, openmp is worlds most simplistic thing). Even though you have 4 cores on your typical i7, you can have many more threads running simultaneously and I don't get the scheduler of the cpu much but it still handles it more efficient than a single thread.

 

Maybe pictures are easier to understand?

Spoiler

Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel (2014) - DX9 UE3


Rising Storm (2013) - DX9 UE3

 

No no, the reason they packed the mobo under the components is not to close it so that people cannot access it, they could do the same trick with a single seal at the back. Also it not only makes the customers job tougher, the technician who needs to do repairs also will spend ages getting the thing apart. The reason is the super innovative cooling design with intakes above the laptop. Its right above the keyboard, so ventilation is much more efficient (and I am pretty sure there were many other design decisions involved). The little beast with 0.78 inch form factor really does a respectable job cooling all the components inside apparently!

 

hence clever marketing to get more $$ out of the end user

 

Did you read my post fully? I was saying it is because of the cooling system, not to make the laptop unupgradable. *They could have done that with a single seal*

Well, in the end, you cannot have the best of both worlds I suppose, nice form factor laptops always come with upgrade issues (MacBook Pro, Blade 14, MSI GS60, and many others). I guess to have a fully customizable laptop, you need to have a product like Alienware 17

 

Any other 970m owners? I don't seem to have DSR as an option on my gs70 ? Anyone able to confirm?

 

DSR is not enabled for mobile GPU's yet.

 

Yeah, DSR is disabled for laptops, including ones like mine which have no Optimus functionality.

 

There has got to be a way to do it?

Unless it has hardware checks you should be able to swap strings and convince the driver you have a desktop 980 or 970.

 

Well if you modify the driver in some way, it should work. I remember back in the day there were laptop2go drivers or something? Thankfully by the time I started using them they weren't needed.

Anyway, if you get them working more power to you sir, but as of right now, they're not enabled anywhere. Which is funny because I ended up making three videos showing 780Ms having playable framerates on like 3 games at 4k res via SSAA options because someone told me it was impossible cuz his desktop 780 couldn't do it. >_>. First time I forced SSAA in so many titles I normally would never use it in, and on the day we found out that we don't have SSAA functionality by default via drivers XD.

 

Well I won't be doing the work. It would probably have Maxwell specific hooks. Tricking the 980M to be read as a 970 would likely work.

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Awesome.. the feature they touted specifically for the 970/980m's isnt' even enabled yet? lol..

 

Which is better for a gaming laptop? 980m 8gb vs 970m 6gb SLI?
I have read that SLI graphic cards have some errors for playing games, and you have to patch the games.

 

The SLI information guide - Graphics Cards - Linus Tech Tips

970M SLI, when it works, will rip 980M to shreds.

 

I thought about bringing this up this topic yesterday:
Wouldn't DX12 futureproof processors for upcoming dx12-games if you have a great graphic card? Therefore make the gpu not to be easily bottlenecked by the cpu, even when you get a better graphic card in the future?
Referencing to this: DirectX 12 - High Performance and High Power Savings - DirectX Developer Blog - Site Home - MSDN Blogs

 

DSR for 900m.

 

Dsr will be support in time since the technology is listed on GeForce website under 980m technologies

 

Hi, they already have GTX 980M for sale in EBAY:
Alienware 18 M18 17 M17 VGA Upgrade Kit New NVIDIA GTX 980M 8GB DDR5 | eBay

I hope it works in M18X-R2... will be my future SLI.

 

Well, Desktops sure are having fun! *no pun intended*

NVIDIA 344.48 WHQL Drivers Available; DSR Added To Fermi & Kepler

 

What pun?

Sent from my Nexus 5

 

Masters of the Master Race

Still wondering why-o-why Nvidia is delaying DSR option of Mobile GPU's. Should be a technical reason behind it.

 

well at least we are part of the master race, but come on, if a guy makes a triple SLI desktop, he gets to be the master of the masters

 

Optimus is his name lol but really I don't know

 

One PC to rule them all,
One PC to find them,
One PC to bring them all and in paradise bind them.

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Overpriced, RJTech sells them for $710 a piece.

 

instead of paradise say SLI and its perfect!! OH OH OH AND SAY GPU INSTEAD OF PC

 

Perhaps you need to cut-paste ID of mobile card into inf file with desctop IDs and write section Number same aas closest desctop card with same chip? just a theory though, most likely wrong.

At least MFAA is selectable in Inspector for Maxwells.

 

My extra 8GB RAM module and Samsung 850 Pro SSD 1TB drive have both been dispatched. All I need now is the actual laptop. Hurry up Gigabyte! Get them out of the factory pronto!

I needs it.

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Wow, that drive would cost more than the laptop right?! ;-)

 

One rig to rule them all,
One rig to find them,
One rig to bring them all
And with its framerates blind them.

 

Ha, that's what I was thinking.

 

Indeed!

I was having a hard time choosing between the cheaper Sandisk Extreme Pro and the Samsung 850 Pro.

I went for the Samsung because I love their Magician software, it's the fastest drive out there currently and has almost double the endurance rating of the Sandisk.

Once I've inserted it into the laptop I'm going to move the OS over to live there instead of the default mSATA (which I'll use as a backup drive).

It's a long term investment. I'm keeping this one for many years to come. My current 840 Pro will be sold along with the entire Clevo P170SM once I've set up my new Gigabyte, so that's why I need a new large capacity SSD.

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Famous last words! Will be a fine laptop though, although I'm surprised you were umming & ahing about the RAM modules you were gonna buy for it - I would have chosen a high speed RAM upgrade and then gone for a cheaper SSD drive with the money that was offset.

 

You yourself showed me that the P35 notebooks come with CL11 Transcend modules so what would have been the point in me getting a CL9 module? It would have been throttled down to CL11 anyway!

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AnandTech benchmarked new Civilization: Beyond Earth on a lot of systems.







Looking good for new Maxwells - quite playable even at 4K Ultra 4x MSAA - getting 30 fps with GTX 980M.

Unfortunately Nvidia Optimus keeps being a big troublemaker .

AnandTech Portal | Benchmarked - Civilization: Beyond Earth

I really wish all notebooks had option to turn Optimus off. Shame those muxless designs are now almost everywhere. I have rare Optimus + mux in my oldie Thinkpad, the first thing I did when I got it was turn off Optimus in BIOS, never looked back.

 

How odd. GT70 has HDMI and mini display port completely free from optimus, which is why they work with higher res and refreshrates on their own with external monitors (particularly, the mini dp).

 

I know, you did the sensible thing from a monetary performance value point of view, which is what I recommended, but then when I saw how much you were splashing out on a high end version of a 1TB SSD drive I figured that if you willing do dish out for relatively poor performance value upgrades then I think high speed RAM would have been further up the list than an absolute top of the range 1TB SSD drive - that's all I'm thinking. (getting two sticks of high speed RAM for a matched pair, not just one).

 

I am under the impression that storage is always the bottleneck in modem PC's, even with SATA III SSDs. DDR3 RAM is considerably faster than even the 850 Pro (which is why Samsung have their RAPID RAM cache feature).

Am I wrong to think this?

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Nope you are precisely right, the reason we have short term memory (RAM) vs long term memory (SSD/HDD) is primarily this, RAM has faster access times and will always be faster than SSD (otherwise SSDs, or whatever the longterm storage device we will have in the future, would replace RAM).

 

Well, faster RAM will help bolster your CPU performance which is good for a gaming machine and framerates (fast SSD's don't help here - although pretty much any SSD could help with streaming performance in some games vs an HDD where there is no level loading & lots of texture streaming - like the Batman games), so I would have personally compromised on a slower SSD and then used that money for faster RAM - that's if I was in the mindset of paying out lots of money for little performance gains, which you are if you're buying a top end 1TB SSD drive. From a performance value point of view I wouldn't buy the highest end RAM nor the fastest SSD (and certainly not 1TB) - I would have saved the money for my next upgrade or something else entirely.

 

Ram won't do much for your gaming experience unless you're using the iGPU, but a good SSD can and will make your system feel snappier.

With that said, you were smart not to spend money on CL9 ram as CL9 vs CL11 won't make 1 iota of difference (it makes 0.5 iota at best), even when running memory specific benchmarks. If you're going to splurge on high performance ram, go for memory speed instead. Get at least 1866MHz, or preferably 2133MHz if the cost difference isn't too huge.

1866MHz can smooth out "edge cases" where 1600MHz may cause a very slight bottleneck, and my system did feel a bit snappier switching to 1866MHz. Going to 2133MHz and beyond did absolutely nothing, so it's unlikely to be a placebo effect.

 

Glad your family now knows you are getting new gear and a ssd 1/3 the price of the laptop!:thumbsup: Then you don't have to feel guilty as you did a week back When are the eta for you?

 

Is it hard to upgrade yourself an ssd into the GS70 2QE?

 

In my country is seems that is available the MSI GT72 2QD-288XPL
I see that it doesn't have ssd on that config,but do someone knows if it has the m.2 adapter inside or is just another 2.5 slot????

 

I just thought I'd see a more tangible benefit choosing the Samsung 850 Pro over the Sandisk Extreme Pro/Crucial M550/Samsung 840 Evo than going from CL11 to CL9 RAM modules. And 1TB was a must as games are eating more and more storage these days, I'm constantly having to manage my Steam library on my 512GB 840 Pro, which is an inconvenience. I know the Gigabyte will come with a 1TB HDD for storage but... ewww HDD... I can't go back to that after experiencing the wonders of a fully SSD-powered system. 5 second boot times in Windows 8.1 is pure bliss

Yeah, I don't intend to use the iGPU on a system with the 980M! Doesn't the i7-4710HQ only support up to 1600MHz?

Haha yes exactly! They will never see what lies within the laptop so I can go all out on the internals Gigabyte say stock should leave the factory at the end of October and so I should expect delivery in the first week of November. So, about two weeks from now, give or take a few days. Overclockers UK have set the ETA for 31/10.

 

i would of just bought a cheaper ssd and wait 5-6 months until the 850 was a reasonable price. but hey its your rig, your choice

 

Bro I will be at a conference 2nd week of November and when I am back, I AM EXPECTING YOUR FIRS IMPRESSIONS (sorry for the caps )

 

And here is how we may get rid of Optimus - G-SYNC:

AnandTech | Investigating NVIDIA's BatteryBoost with MSI GT72

Let's hope at least some notebook manufacturers will be courageous enough to sacrifice Optimus for G-SYNC in some new notebook designs. There is a precedent - they already did it for SLI. And G-SYNC would be even better reason (plus motivation to drop Optimus also for single-GPU systems, especially with less than top-end GPUs).

While there is no chance that would happen this year, maybe Broadwell-fueled redesigns in 2015 could bring us G-SYNC for internal notebook displays? We already know 9XXM Maxwells support it, it's just matter of putting pieces together.

That's btw one of the very few reasons I may regret buying notebook now. Not much expected performance increases in 2015, but I will feel bad if I get something now and then in let's say May 2015 there will come something with G-SYNC and without Optimus.

Please somebody tell me I'm wrong, I'm getting really tired of waiting

 

Don't you go spend all your savings now Mmkay

I have been so back and forth between all these laptops, and now the p35 looks good too, that hotswap tray is just genius for me! If they have upgraded that cooling,,, so if you are one of the first in the world to get one..! please take of that back cover and take some pictures! I really hope we will se bigger fans, heatsinks-everything..