GTX 900M series officially announced by NVIDIA!!!

I'll be sure to do that once I stop being incredibly annoyed at having the same issue my 880m had.

In BF4, my GPU usage would go crazy. I would yo-yo from 30 to 60 FPS. And not a straight jump, it would also hit every number in between. I just had the same thing with Ryse....

My 880m could keep that at just over 30FPS but it would occasionally drop below. The 880m can also hit 60FPS with all the settings maxed out but then it does the yo-yo thing. UGH.

Shadow of Mordor seems to run fine though.

Also, I played around with making my laptop extend the display onto my monitor and now games won't launch with the HDMI cable plugged in. SO MUCH DRAMA. All I did was click around in 'resolution' after right clicking the desktop. .

And now Shadow of Mordor won't launch. I WAS PLAYING IT 5 MINUTES AGO BEFORE I PLUGGED IN AN HDMI CABLE. .

 

And it can be yours for the bargain price of

 

Shadow of Mordor

http://imgur.com/Rw6mFlj

Max Temp of 75 degrees which is a good 10 degrees less than my 880m. Decent. Avergae of 55FPS in the benchmark with everything maxed. Ignore the minimum FPS reading - that's where the FPS starts off at the initial load of the level, the actual bench dropped to 42 during a bunch of explosions.

Max Payne 3

http://imgur.com/tyIRs8Q

Never went above 61 degrees, remained at a constant 60 at those settings.

Ryse

Only the forest level has weird stuttering. Every other level sticks between 50-60FPS. This is at 1080 with all settings maxed. I could barely maintain a solid 30 with the 880m. That's a huge leap.

Crysis 3

http://imgur.com/qqHXlTl

See above settings for a rock solid 60FPS at 1080. If I turn shading/post processing or object to very high, things drop to the low 50s/high 40s. AA is at SMAA x2.


EDIT: Editor won't let me imbed images. Great.

 

Screenshot's broken for me. Also, I'd like you to try it in a GPU-toasting simulator like Paranautical activity or Crysis 3 (warning: Crysis 3 doubles as CPU toasting simulator)

 

Wow, min 19 fps but max is 124fps? Is it stuttering like crazy or something?

 

Let's just say the only way to get this game working by sli is to force sli in the control panel

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

 

That's the reading on the initial level load - no stuttering at all. It's dumb they even include the reading as it's representative of nothing.

I just uninstalled that. Dammit. I'll download it now.

Also, I just popped my old SSDs into my new laptop as all the components minus the GPU are identical. That shouldn't cause any issues, right? Just wondering why plugging in an HDMI cable is giving me problems.

Question 2, how should I bench stuff without a built in tool? MSI also doesn't work with 64-bit games for some stupid reason and I can't seem to monitor my temps in FRAPS. Anything I should be using?

 

PlayClaw : Game Video Recorder alternative, Game Screen Capture, Ventrilo Teamspeak overlay, Game Recorder

You'll get an overlay like you see here in this video of mine (it's customizable): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIFcon_N4iQ

 

If you download latest MSI Afterburner it comes with an RTSS OSD that works just fine in 64-bit games.

 

Well, I can confirm that the 980m does not get hotter than 75 degrees it seems. That's a huge step up from the 880m.

 

Ambient temps? And did you prop up the back of your machine while gaming for better airflow? And finally, max fans or auto fans?

 

GPU sits at 34 degrees while idle (like it is right now) which is fairly impressive. No idea what my ambient temp is though.

Am not propping up the machine (is that a thing I should be doing? Go figure) and it's auto-fans.

 

Propping up can drop temps by 10-15 degrees in some games. Running max fans is a further 10+ degrees sometimes. If you're flat + auto fans, that GPU is cool as a cow. But your ambient temp is important; I'd like if you could at least like, google the area temperature for your place (at a time when you run benches again to make sure it's not over 75 again). And was that in Crysis 3? Crysis 3 1080p max graphics + 1x SMAA without vsync hit a max of 75 degrees on auto fans? isnfuiojisuoafuishuifh *dies*

*enters zombie-like state where 980Ms are needed*

 

It says Oxford, UK is 46F/8C right now.

 

I guarantee you the bloke has heating, because even having lived through 7 years of Canadian winter 8C indoors is just butt-freezing cold. The most I could tolerate was about 16C before I felt like I was getting hypothermia.

 

Well if he was heating, then it must have a thermostat around... he could find out for us soon =D. If it's set to like 25 degrees, then 980M is a jesus chip at auto fans at those temps.

Ironically if I ever move to Canada I was planning to use my laptop as a miniature heater by playing BF4 on ultra at 4K while overclocking both CPU and GPU.

 

Its unfortunate that the GPU is so cool but the CPU is a blast furnace that will still require max fans lol.

 

I'm telling you, P370EM triple pipe heatsink will make you and your laptop very happy.

 

Yup. I sincerely believe, even if it's not full GM204, two 980Ms and the EM CPU & slave GPU heatsinks would be very very good. I wish I could see if they began using that heatsink combo in the current P37xSM-A models.

 

You're confusing me, what are you saying, are you saying you have the same problem with your 980M that you had with your 880M?

 

You mean this?

 

* JAW DROPS *

* DROOLS *

I want triple fans lappy!

By the way, P370EM vs MSI GT72 ? which one keeps a single 980M and the i7-4980 cooler?

 

Lets buy whole 980m stock

 

Well now I know how gt72 is doing an incredible job cooling down its components, that is amazing, its like a little puzzle game!

 

That is the Clevo P377SM-A / Sager NP9377 with 980m SLI, not GT72.

GT72 looks like this:

 

Incredible? I don't think so.

 

Would you be able to buy a 230W PSU for the gigabyte p35x v3 later?

Sent from my Nexus 7 FHD using Tapatalk

 

Yeah, I thought that was happeneing (880m had weird utilizatin issues in games like BF4).

However, it's just one level in Ryse that does it - the forest one. GPU yo-yo's from 30 to 60FPS. It's not a V-sync thing either. Weird. All the other issues seem to have fixed themselves (although I haven't tried plugging it into the monitor again)

Currently in Queen's, New York. Outside temperature is 14 degrees, thermostat reads 19 degrees inside. And yes, Crysis 3 at those settings did not go above 73 degrees. Playing at 1080 with a near locked 60FPS (explosions and heavy effects would knock it down a tiny bit) at SMAA 2x and nearly everything on very high. Just tried it again to see if it'd be different today and nope, same as before. I also can't really hear the fans while playing the game which is amazing. The 880m was sort of distracting with the noise it made. This is at like 80-90% utilization. It did creep up to 99% in points which was what got me to 73 degrees. Before it had even been dropping down to 69 while playing.

Between that and Ryse, it looks like an overclock of 20% would give you 60FPS and ultra settings in nearly every game out there. Shame the card can't hit that already but it's damned close. Also a pity that I can't get the stock clocks above 13% with stuff like Afterburner. Not that I've tried doing that yet but I assume it's the same as always.

 

I don't know, sometimes adapters are not compatible even if they have the same pins, wattage & amperage, times like this when they're not compatible your battery might not charge for instance. You'd have to google it to see if anyone using a P35 has upgraded their power supply.

 

Still nothing from alienware huh? Any 980 SLI performance review?

 

GOD DAMMIT. I switched my SSD back into the other computer to deactivate windows and then reinstalled it. Now performance is a lot worse. Guessing the Nvidia drivers dont like being switched back and forth to different GPUs. Will reinstall and see if that helps.

EDIT: That did the trick.

 

Get your head out of the sand. It cools better than Alienware. Deal with it.

 

Can you provide your laptop specs, or is this the same laptop in your sig, just replaced the 880m with 980m?

 

What if it was throttling to keep itself under 180W? Ive seen the p170sm-a from clevo with the 870 and 4810mq almost fully use its 230w psu in reviews...

Sent from my Nexus 7 FHD using Tapatalk

 

Looking forward to your review! Im attenting college aswell (in holland, similar ambient temps), and if theres no thermal throttling with the 980m this will me a certain purchase for me. Ill be getting the 3k model though...

Sent from my Nexus 7 FHD using Tapatalk

 

Hmm, if the GPU isn't pegged at constant >95% utilization, that might be a sign the CPU is (slightly) bottlenecking it.

Yeah it's essentially like upgrading GPUs in desktops, you *may* get away with doing a simple swap, but usually the drivers throw a fuss so I always DDU the old driver before switching cards out.

 

Coming from a guy who does not own Alienware...

I'd say they're pretty much the same now that the GT72 has upgraded cooling. When Alienware revises the cooling in their systems, the difference will be night and day, again.

 

Coming from a guy who doesn't own a GT72...

 

Blast; they didn't swap back to the EM heatsink models. Looks like we'll need to source this secondhand. The 980Ms are so cool we should easily be able to sacrifice slave GPU cooling for better CPU cooling like how it worked with 680Ms/Ivy Bridge.

I can guarantee 100% that an i7-4800MQ bottlenecks SLI 780M OC'd in Crysis 3 down to 60% util on each card in some situations. Considering a 980M is ballpark 780M SLI, then dropping to between 80 and 90% is a clear bottleneck sign. It should only happen with Crysis 3 however. On the plus side, Crysis 3 unlike about every other game on the planet out there, can use more than 50% of a quadcore, so more power to us. An overclock would help immensely, especially if your CPU keeps quite cool (which it should, due to the stronger CPU heatsink versus the SLI models), and furthermore because the 980M draws so little power that you'll have excess power for the CPU =D. You've got a great system there bro, and again, even 19 degrees, if that's auto fans and the machine isn't propped up and your CPU/GPU are at stock? That's bloody brilliant temps. I'm gonna have to sell my body for 980Ms.

 

I purchase and resell laptops all the time.

 

Good to know, and I did always suspect Crysis 3 was an exception since even with quad cores overclocking sometimes yielded significant gains. And this is why I decided if I were to build a desktop, it would be hex core or bust.

 

Is that why you'd been trying to unload the AW17 for over a year?

 

Yup, identical except for the fact that I cheaped out on a DVD-writer instead of the BluRay that I've never used.

 

I actually sold two of them last year. The one I'm currently selling is about 9 months old.

 

You two should get a room...

 

Looking forward to your MSI GT72 vs. AW17 temps comparison.

 

Made just for you:



I'm sure you can compare them with another video.

 

What?! Alienware = Best.Cooling.Ever. Anybody who contradicts didn't own an Alienware or had problems with their machine. My m17x r3 cooled so well, temps never exceed 65C on 7970m for extended hours (entire day like gaming) of serious maxxed gaming like BF3-BF4-GW2.

 

Well I guess that settles it then.

/s

 

Was just blatantly fanboying there though on a serious note, I think the cooling on AW machines really rock, m17x r2 had problems with crossfire, though as soon as they moved the single gpu setup things improved