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    GTX 980 launched for notebooks

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Cloudfire, Sep 22, 2015.

  1. jaybee83

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    yep, the outer dimensions are indeed exactly the same with the 770 and the 775. they just rearranged the internals of the 775 in order to make room for the 980 :)

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    jaybee83, Oct 12, 2015
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    Its not the P775DMx, that not only looks different from the P770DM but also has other dimensions etc...its a simple mistake that they have the card on that order page.
     
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    USB get power from the PSU.
    It doesnt matter if you draw power from the PCIe port or through the USB. It will all add up to what the PSU can deliver anyway. 9W extra power require you to remove two devices that you previously used with the two USB ports when you reached the PSU limit. Unused USB ports in itself doesnt use anything, they are in a sleep state.


    Theoretically you could skip the mouse and get additional 4.5W free from that port, but have you tried gaming with a touchpad? :no:
    That said, just because a USB port can deliver 4.5W, doesnt mean the unplugged USB mouse actually used 4.5W

    [​IMG]
     
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    take it straight from the phoenix' mouth! :)

    @Cloudfire: no problem, just hook up an additional psu to the usb port!

    [​IMG]

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    jaybee83, Oct 12, 2015
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    lol what actually happens if you plug in a USB cable connected to a PSU?
     
    Cloudfire, Oct 12, 2015
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    hmmm....quickcharge for laptops? :D

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    jaybee83, Oct 12, 2015
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    More power phases, yes. More power phases "smoothes" out the current flow and usually allows for faster clocks/overclocking.

    Think of it as a sine wave, At same frequency the voltage is delivered but each step out of phase will make the valleys less deep, hence a more smooth delivery. (Maybe bad explanation but best I can think of)

    Single Phase:
    [​IMG]

    Two Phase:
    [​IMG]

    Four Phase:
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    HTWingNut, Oct 12, 2015
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    SystemXS, Oct 12, 2015
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    Good old Eurocom with their "first-to-market" price gouging :)
     
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    Do we know what the upgrade price'll be from other sellers yet?

    Judging by the starting prices of the new MSI and Asus, the premium Nvidia is charging seems to be pretty high.
     
    Kevin, Oct 13, 2015
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    Mythlogic already has the laptop for pre-orer. Its been up for a long time now. Surprised the other resellers haven't put them up yet.
    https://www.mythlogic.com/2015_Models/phobos8715s.php

    The GTX980 apparently is around 400$ over the GTX980m. Expecting the other resellers to price it slightly lower considering Mythlogic builds its own laptops from the barebones and hence has a slight price increase over other resellers like Xoticpc, powernotebooks, LPC etc.
     
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    Hi guys,

    I've been reading all these comments and I'm super excited to see this kind of power in a laptop, even though I bought my laptop two weeks before the 980m came out, so I'm stuck with the 880m for a couple of years at least... Anyway, I was wondering if my system might be able to accomodate the gtx 980, possibly a cut down version due to the chassis and power requirements, and if even in that case it would really be better than an overclocked 980m. I know that it's all mostly speculation so far, but I wanted to know what your thoughts were. Thanks.

    This is my laptop:
    Sager NP 8278-S | 17.3" 1920 x 1080 Matte | Intel i7 4810MQ 2.8 - 3.8 GHz | GTX 880m 8GB DDR5 | 8 GB RAM | 120 GB Crucial M500 mSATA SSD | 750 GB 7200 RPM [SATA II - 16MB Cache] | 6X Blu-Ray Burner + 8X DVDRW/CDRW Super Multi Combo Drive | Windows 10 Pro 64 bits |
     
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    You'll have to wait and see if an actual MXM card comes out. All of the cards so far are bigger than your standard MXM card plus require an external power source.
     
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    Well the MSI one has a plug but it is not used in the gt72.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Oct 13, 2015
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    I want to see what they do with the GT80.
     
    Ethrem, Oct 13, 2015
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    Indeed, so do I.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Oct 13, 2015
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    Cloudfire, Oct 15, 2015
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    hm and less of a perf boost over the 980M than i expected. meh... but yeah, thats the 150W 980, dont forget :)

    if anyone's interested, finally a thread collecting all the 980 model data in one place over at TI :)

    http://forum.techinferno.com/showthread.php?p=147161

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    Would be a fantasy to try to fit in one of those "low wattage" 980s into an Alienware 17 R1 2013 model?
     
    Nomad, Oct 16, 2015
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    at this point, anything is still possible ;) the three major culprits would be to get sufficient power to the gpu without an external power cord, to physically fit the longer board into the machine and lastly, to somehow get/build a heatsink that would fit that longer board...

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    Well the low wattage versions don't need an extra power connector.
     
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    we know that for the 150w version, but have no idea yet what the gt80 sports... from that leak over at TI it looks like the 120w cards still have an external power connector... even if it wont really need it, strictly from a power-delivery point of view, i wouldnt put it past ngreedia to include some kinda vbios block if the external power cord aint connected...

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    None of the models posted there is 120W, they are all in the 150-200W class.
     
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    in that case, lemme rephrase: we dunno jack about the gt80 cards yet, period :D (at least not officially, no idea what witchery is brewing in prema's secret phoenix lair at any given time ;) )

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    Thanks for you reply.

    I was thinking about SLI performance vs single GTX 980 for the price, since I don't know how is SLI support for older cards. So, can the somewhat lower cost of dual cards and performance scaling compensate over time compared to a more powerful single GPU?.
     
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    I can't believe you believed that considering MSI's rampant price hikes since the GT72's inception.

    I'll say it again: I have video evidence of a time when a fully decked out GT72 cost more than a P377SM-A with the most similar hardware I could get, except that the Clevo had a 4910MQ instead of a 4980HQ and two 980Ms instead of one. Both were from XoticPC.
     
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    Never had a problem with MSI's pricing on the notebooks I have bought. The one in my signature was 1850.00 shipped 2.5 months ago when reviews were saying it was ~2100. Awesome price for the specs IMO. Same goes for the GT80 Titan i had when it was released. MSRP's may be high, but actual pricing shouldnt be around 3100.\Im guessing newegg and microcenter have it soon for 2899 or less
     
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    Places like newegg often put them on sale or whatnot, but from a configurator site, or getting a machine maxed out, it's far more expensive.
     
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    Hmm.... What Clevo/Sager Laptops in 2016 are available for these new MXM GPU's then? Upgrade itch... lol
     
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    P870DM
    P775DM
     
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    Cloudfire, Oct 28, 2015
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    but only 6% faster than my overclocked 980M :D

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    jaybee83, Oct 28, 2015
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    I think you would have problem with their pricing and Asus pricing if you consider the past.

    Used to be Alienware was the most expensive. But Alienware have made a lot of changes recently to reduce manufacturing/maintenance costs and no all changes in benefit to customers. Now they are more reasonably priced than MSI, how ironic.

    Clevo used to be close 2nd behind Alienware, but that was because Clevo had more power and features than any other gaming notebook, so it was a deal considering was less than AW.

    Asus was affordable, I bought their top of the line 5870M 17" notebook for $1495.

    Clevo and AW for the most part have become more affordable but consistent in pricing. Top tier for MSI and AW have sky rocketed from $1500 to $2200-$2800.
     
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