GTX 980 launched for notebooks

First lock down overclocking to max 135MHz
Then lock overclocking alltogether through drivers for mobile
Start slowly pushing out soldered GPUs
Introduce an excuse for the remaining notebooks that use MXM modules, like premium components to make weird MXM cards that can`t be replaced. Maybe if you are lucky, you get to buy kits from the OEMs themselves with the correct form factor, for a very expensive premium of course.
Next step...who knows.

I`m sure its all about what makes the most profit anyway. Regardless of how they do it

 

Where are the reviews of GTX 980 btw?

 

Its not really out yet. They'll start rolling in end of this month.

 

Detailed Review MSI GT72S Dragon w/ Desktop GTX980 Overclocked


This single 980 GT72S comes with a 230w power supply.

There is a warning showing in the MSI GT72s BIOS that OC above 37x may be unstable - see 4:04 and 11:42 points in video.

37x is really low, and might be due to the combination 980 + 6820HK vying for power limited by that 230w power supply.

Update: GenTechPC uploaded the disassembly video

 

Thanks. Will watch that video

Thanks. I must say it took some time to get reviews out man. Almost a month since the 980 was launched.

 

They should really make 18" 4K SLI machines now we have GTX 980s. Should be a decent mix

 

Actually it only comes with a 230W supply.

 

Curs3, thanks, fixed

 

Good lord, an unlocked i7-6820HK + desktop 980 and it comes with only a measly 230W PSU? Not much overclocking to be done, then.

 

edit: scratch that, heres to hoping for an additional clevo 980 with 4 power phases installed and STANDARD mxm factor!

ull be able to get some decent overclocks with a 230W psu on a 6820HK and a 120W 980 though, just wont be able to properly max everything out unless going the 330W route...

 

octiceps, the 6820HK hasn't shown itself to be very OC'able.

There is a warning showing in the MSI GT72s BIOS that OC above 37x may be unstable - 4:04 and 11:42 points in video.

37x is really low, and might be due to the combination 980 + 6820HK vying for power limited by that 230w power supply.

 

above 37x? thats total crap! here i thought ud at least be able to get it to 4ghz stable....

 

That would put the number of Clevo 980 variants at 4. 200W wide, 180W wide, 120W long, and standard MXM. Talk about obfuscation...

Doesn't the 980M already have 4 (3+1) power phases? Or are you talking about just for the core like desktop 980?

 

i thought the 980M only had three in total? not sure though...

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As confirmed by Prema its a 150W GTX 980 and again from what I inquired from GenTechPc little to no overclocking can be done on the GPU with the stock 230W supply.

 

We've seen 4.2GHz from intel officially, so that has to be silicon-based.

That's a joke; I'm perfectly stable at 3.8GHz. It's just HOT because my chip is hot.

I don't care what combination it is. 3.7GHz for an OCable i7 is crap.

 

Surprised if it doesn't power throttle at stock settings.

 

It's the manufacturer covering their asses guys, why are you reading into that figure in the bios so much?

You mean you want it to look like this?



They could do that but no 1.75ghz ram in that case.

 

Curs3, AFAIK, the MSI 230w / 330w power supplies have different pin-out's at the laptop connector.

Can you please check with your contact at GenTechPc if they have a converter to allow a 330w to be used?

 

I was told that the GT72 can hold 330W and the GT80 can hold dual 330W, so it must work natively.

 

D2 Ultima, I don't have both power supplies here to check, but I recall when watching reviews of the GT80 that the reviewer pointed out the pin-out was increased on the 330w for the GT80.

Maybe someone with both power supplies handy can let us know.

At 1:54 in the Video the reviewer holds up the 230w power adapter laptop connector, and it looks too small to be the same as the 330w adapter.

I've read here that the GT80 330w is the same as used in the Dell 18xx 330w, and some GT80 owners used the Dell converter to connect 2 330w power supplies to their GT80.

The Clevo dual 330w power supply converter / Dell converter for dual 330w power supplies could be the same.

 

The 330W bricks are all the 4 pin type, the GT72 uses a different connector to this.

We may see a return of my cable modding for a larger capacity brick

 

i stand corrected, 3+1 it is

and yes meaker, thats what id like them to make! id be ready to sacrifice some ram oc ability for moar coar powah!

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MSI should def start using 330W PSUs from now on.
Everyone should if they are serious about their gaming notebooks.
So stupid to have the hardware capable of running really high clocks and then not being able to use them fully because the manufacturer cheaped out on PSU

If 330W PSU is too big for you, maybe you should get one of them hipsters notebooks with this instead. That should fit in your manpurse

 

my phone has a bigger psu than that

 

Pah, real men have 700W PSUs in their dock (Plus a mini 90W brick on the go with 92% efficiency )

 

Only 90Ws on the go.. Softc0ck

 

Real men have 1300W+ PSUs

 

"Real men have fabs."

Your daily AMD burn, courtesy of Octiceps *bows*.

 

You mean beastly desktop at home and a crappy 90W notebook to abuse on the work?

Yes absolutely

 

Weell except for 1st gen i7 pretty happy with my 3.7ghz stock air cooled stable all cores 920xm.

 

Wasn't that chip's base turbo 2.2GHz? The 6820K is 3.2GHz. If 3.7GHz is its average max OC, then people might as well get a basic i7-6700 which turbos to the same thing and not need to worry about BGA or anything.

 

I've done the whole 2x 330W brick and 6.5kg machine thing too and traveled international with it

Still the 980M SLI setup can't hope to give you the gaming experience of a titan-x water cooled.

You can't beat the raw horsepower of a large single chip running at high clocks.

 

Since the Skylake GT72s still use 230w bricks like the original model, I wonder if MSI can gerry-rig older GT72s for more power by piggybacking off a USB 3.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB#Power

 

Sad that a 5 year old processor can do that, and a brand new processor can't even manage to do that in some cases.

 

Pentium m could only do 2.4ghz, still destroyed the P4 at 3.2ghz. Frequency is not everything.

 

...unless you're AMD

 

That's power supplied by the laptop's USB port itself, it's still part of the total system consumption. InB4 MSI brings back the NOS gleature.

 

Right, but it's not often used for powering external devices save a mouse ...much less doing so while gaming. So why not redirect a portion of it?

I mean, are the ports connected directly to the mobo like on the rear connections of the desktop or are the port connected by a wired connection like the front of a desktop. There are two USB 3 ports right next to the GPU. It would be convenient if it was just a matter of disconnecting the USB on that side to have extra power to the GPU.

 

Mmmmmm... Here we are.

Eurocom Announces Sky X9 With GTX 980 and Desktop Skylake CPU

 

That wouldn't make any sense. USB ports don't use any power (well, maybe milliwats) until something is connected. Disconnecting them would save you nothing. They get their power from the same place everything else does in the laptop. It's not like USB ports generate power on their own.

 

USB power standards

USB 3.x: 900 mA, 5 V, 4.5 W

Right, but I thought the problem was the basic MXM can't supply enough power to the GPU on its own. The USB 3 can still provide power on its own up to 4.5w as long the laptop power brick can offer it ...and the 230w power brick can power a laptop 980.

So if there was a way to rig the two USB near the GPU to connect to the additional power connection on a laptop 980, shouldn't that be an additional 9w to the GPU? What the 2 USB 3 [4.5w x 2] ports on the GPU side can offer?

...or is that not significant enough to bother?

 

Usb gets it's power from that 230w power supply too... Mxm draws what it needs up to power limits of the system and power supply.

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So why does the laptop 980 need an additional connector if it can get what it needs from the power brick without it?

 

apparently, the mobo sports additional power phases, through which the additional power connector can deliver additional amps to the gpu. its true that the mxm connector is directly hooked up to the psu and can thus theoretically draw as much power as is needed from the gpu, but i guess that extra connector with the mobo phases is a more "stable" way to transport the power to the gpu... who knows, maybe at some point the mxm connector will just have a melt-down, otherwise *lol*

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Ahhhhh!

...so it doesn't work because the power still needs to be regulated in a way that can not be managed by just pumping more electrons through a diverted USB 3 line. Not handled on the GPU itself.

 

You can choose Desktop 980 (200W) on the Sky X6 as well for some reason: http://www.eurocom.com/ec/configure(1,332,0)ec

 

thats probably the P775DM with the 180W version of the 980?

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The dimensions are the exact same as the P770DM, I'm assuming if you select the 980 model , they ship out the 775 instead.