GTX 980M / 970M Maxwell (Un)official news

Maybe, and as you say it can only progress as fast as monetary profit will allow - but you've not changed my thinking or conclusions on the matter though. On Maxwell front, I'm looking forward to seeing the first official reviews of laptops with the 980M/970M, I don't think there's that much more for us to know until that point - the leaks have been leaked!

 

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He can store a whole 80GB in his head! LOL

 

290 PLN = ca. 87 USD

 

some laptops

GTX970m:
MSI GT72 2QD-246NL Dominator - Laptopshop.nl

MSI GS70 2QE-046NL Stealth Pro - Laptopshop.nl
MSI GS70 2QE-035NL Stealth Pro - Laptopshop.nl

MSI GS60 2QE-028NL Ghost Pro - Laptopshop.nl

GTX 980m:
MSI GT72 2QE-229NL Dominator Pro - Laptopshop.nl


Can't find much more

 

Too bad they already took them offline - wanted to do some custom config

Also how is clevo currently managong the heat problem of 870m+i4710? Im not rly convinced to this brand but if the price would be competitive and the quality just fine/at msi level i might go for it.

 

Btw, i've just called this reseller and got confirmation about 7.10 as official date of 9xxM premiere - ofc due to NDA with nvidia they could not say anything more than that : the first products (coudlny confirm any brands) will be offered from 7.10

 

GS60 2QE Ghost Pro(with FHD) please don't cost over 1400€ with 20% vat ! I would like to get you through contacts for not more than 1250€ !

 

Nice to See 8GB 980M confirmed again.
I was playing Shadowe of mordor at max settings/ultra 2560x1440 and VRAM was at 5.4GB usage I'm sure if more AA+downsample was used it would break 6GB easily
Evil within require 4GB VRam too

GS60 970M 3GB Vram is bad.... should have been 6GB ;/

 

Only gt72 gtx 970m has 6gb vram. and i don't think gs60 can manage the heat anyways

 

GS60 had 870m hot kepler GPU, 970m suppose to be much cooler card, 980m already available in another 20mm thin laptop (gigabyte) my issue is not the 980m vs 970m but the vram is low, p34gv2 860 had 4GB
PS3 had 256mb vram and 256mb ram now it has 8GB Share unified Ram so it can use up to 5GB VRAM 1GB RAM (2 for OS) if it wants, pc suppose to use more for ultra etc
Currently 970m is more than able to handle next gen games ports power wise but the vram will bottleneck :/ 6GB as low as i would go for and 8GB would be perfect

 

LOL, 8GB would be perfect? 4GB is perfect. 6GB is overkill. 8GB is insane.

Even the GTX 980 (desktop) has 4GB's of VRAM and supports multiple 4k displays. Too much VRAM is not necessarily a good thing. You'll never use 6GB's, let alone 8GB's.

 

Read my previous post.
you never use 6gb from ps3/360 ports we are getting a big jump I'm playing shadow of mordor currently 5.4GB VRAM used
EVIL WITHIN REQUIRE 4GB VRAM to play etc
get 3gb card them cry you can't max out a game that you card in theory suppose to in raw power but lacks the vram

3GB = low
4GB = standard 860m had it and even older cards
6GB = feels safe and good
8GB = future proof bit for not optimized messy games

About these 970/980 they are getting 8GB ram for 50$ next month lol nvidia they did the same crap with 770-780 anyway released 3gb first then 6GB later

 

the GT72 with 970M it seems GT70/60 are dead with their noisy single fan design !

 

I seriously hope the GT70 wont be discontinued. I really want one of the new 1866 Dragon Editions, priced so well. I know it's got the one fan design but was kinda hoping the possible lower thermals of the maxwell would run okay in it, seems the 860 does.

 

These foreign prices... 3000+ for basic clevo gtx 980m sli. Those have gotta be just expensive foreign prices because that same laptop with dual 880ms cost only $2380 usd. Oh well only time will tell. I am only willing to pay $2800 max for the sager np9377 sli. I cannot imagin it being that expensive. Either that or one gpu or g751 which i saw for 2000 usd in france

 

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Can someone tell me, when looking at Xotic PC, what is the difference between the 9377, and the 9377-S?

 

S edition has discounts from Sager for specific parts, they're the same machine otherwise.

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9377-S has 1TB(7200rpm), 120GB SSD, Blu Ray drive, IC diamond Thermal pasting and 16 GB RAM. $140 savings on regular price.

 

I just want dual 980ms. The leaks say the 980m is only 26% slower than two 880ms in sli. Two of them! Depending on their overclock capabilities on a g751 then might be able to beat 880m sli with one card. I know you can get around 10% improvement with a typical gpu scenario. I hope the np9377 is in my budget. But since the g751 is only $2k in france i assume the 980m cards are not overpriced.

 

Yeah but Asus doesn't offer SLi

 

There are several gamed that exceedd 4GB VRAM usage. Sure it is lower than 8GB but they have two options: 4GB or 8GB due VRAM sizes.
Then its DSR that downscales higher resolution than 1080p down to 1080p with VRAM usage skyrocketing.

I know I want 8GB 980M

Laugh all you want but Nvidia is playing this smart and making the GPUs more future proof.

Im glad they ditched the GT70s. Not only were they not pretty to look at but the cooling system was way past its time.
GT60 with GTX 980M will still be offered btw.

Its europe = expensive

60% faster or 38% slower. Depends on how you view them

 

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No i meant if i cannot get sli clevo i will get asus.

What is that in reference to? Gtx 980m and sli both scale to be 56-57% faster than 880m and respective sli version. But thats from from synthetic benchmarks and I have no idea if that really means anything. Sorry but I feel like an idiot but i do not know what those numbers you mentioned mean.

 

if CPU+GPU are going to be soldered, then what's the point of having high end laptop with a characteristic of mid-end gaming laptop -__-
everyone knows we like upgrade-ability
GG nvidia intel

 

So was Notebook Check wrong about today there being an announcement?

 

Looks like it... I don't mind waiting, but not having official dates announced is killing me.

 

Anyone know already what german shops will offer notebooks with the 970M/980M?
I wont be able to purchase it from anywhere else

 

We want to upgrade components, OEMs would rather sell us the entire notebook instead. They get to decide when Mr Average Joe couldnt care less about whats inside. There are many models out right now that have both the GPU and the CPU soldered and I think they are selling very good despite this. All thats missing is soldered RAM sticks and a notebook thats really hard to open and we are really close to the scenario I wrote about.

Say a GPU score 160 in some benchmark, and a different one score 100.
100/160 = 0.625. Meaning the GPU that scored 100 is 37.5% slower (1-0.625)
160/100 = 1.6. The GPU that scored 160 is 60% faster.

Its just looking at it differently. You are right, it will be very interesting to see the real world difference between GTX 880M and 980M. I think it will be atleast 50% faster.

Dont know where they got that date from. I havent seen any announcement today. Some folks here got told by resellers that October 7th is the date notebooks with Maxwell starts selling. I guess Nvidia will have their presentation the same day or a day prior.

 

I wonder if nVidia intends to keep the professional processing power separate from the GTX line...the 980M is sounding like a great upgrade, but I don't want to lose professional power.

 

Depends what you mean by professional.
OpenCL got a huge upgrade over previous Kepler cards. GM204 offer far more performance there per watt than AMD, and GTX 980 beats the R9 290X by a good margin.

FP32 computing also got a huge upgrade with single, but double is still lacky (still better than GK104 per watt)so a GM200 is still the remedy there.

Folding also got a massive boost in performance, beats 250W GTX 780 Ti by a good deal.

 

the apocalypse will be the day where they soldered the CPU+GPU on an Alienware 18 and Sager SLI system
not to mention that time, other gaming laptop would have integrated ram sticks (or just chips rather than stick), like the laptop i am using to write this reply (Acer V3 14 inches)

surprisingly yes, 98% of earth population do not buy an SLI Laptop. they are satisfied with one gpu with price ~2500 USD or above just for the sake of the looks, an overpriced SSD raid, blu-ray, super tiny light machine that can't handle the hotness of the beastly components and all other 'not so important' features or rather called waste

 

That would be horrible. If they start soldering every component, I'll never buy another gaming laptop again.

 

All the MSI GT72 listings I have seen use an i7-4xxxHQ processor are there any MQ ones listed yet? Also does anyone know if the GPU on them are soldiered or MXM?

 

The GPU will not be soldiered, even though I cant find it again(supposing they removed it again coz the gtx980m was stated on the official msi site), the MSI site said on the GPU part that the older gt72 had a gtx880m which could be replaced with an gtx980m. And that hte newer versions with the gtx980m would be capable of replacement by the newest GPU in 2015.

 

I think an xotic pc rep said a certain model of msi had soldered cpus. That was either gt70 or gt72. If you are gonna get a laptop with a soldered cpu then get the g751 for the cooling. As for soldered gpu i havent heard of any of the powerful gpus being soldered on any laptop brands. Only soldered gpu on the 800 series i know of is 860m maxwell.

G750 - (not soldered gpu) no
Gt70 - no
Gt72 - no
Np9377 - no

Idk. I havent looked at everything but does anyone know of any laptops with 880m or 870m that is soldered?

 

So apparantly someone took the MSI GT72 for a spin today.

3DMark Extreme
Generic VGA video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4710HQ,Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-1781

3DMark 11 Performance. 14000 in GPU score!
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/8759341

1781 = GT72 for those who dont know

PS: GT72 have the CPU soldered but the GPU is not (MXM)

 

Are those good results?

 

60% above GTX 880M!

 

Yes. Next week as has always been stated...

 

true but thats an over-clocked 980m
Core clock = 1173 (normal is 1038 right?)

 

It could be the boost clock for the machine, or the specs could be not-finalized-yet so that could be the basic stuff.

 

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Silver Surfer,
I have heard that an announcement is for Thursday, to coincide with a driver release.
We will have to wait until tomorrow, and cross our fingers....

 

That's the +135MHz locked max OC.

 

Yep, looks like it. Still a very nice score, around 50% better score than my max OC for 780m.

 

That 4710HQ is also probably holding back the card. That P score should be over 12000.

 

What is the price for a 970m SLI Clevo guys? I might look through it before buying G751

 

Apologies if this has been posted earlier

Some Pics of Clevo models here:
Clevo en Chile - post#2 by Connall

Disappointed by Clevo's choice of mundane ports, soldered CPU and a 3GB GPU (?!). All else cool, excited for more leaks.

 

Wait on the Clevo P377SM-A 980m SLI, it should be an excellent laptop, however the listing leaked had 980m 4G cards. Considering many games already use 3-4 GB vRAM, and some future titles are using more for ultra settings, you don't want to be dropping settings to high or turning off AA or such because you ran out.

They do make 980m 8GB vRAM cards and someone will offer a Clevo SLI with them soon enough.

 

That leak has got to be wrong... 970M @ 6GB and 980M @ 4GB is retarded. Someone probably got confused with 780M memory.