GTX 980M / 970M Maxwell (Un)official news

This is only thing I could find for the Clevo P650SE 970M 3GB GDDR5 so far,

Thing to be noted:
1. Support for 4K
2. Clevo ports and speakers has not been redesigned much - No HDMI 2.0
3. 2.6kg vs previous 3kg - Weight reduced?!
4. Supports 2HDD/SSDs
5. Stuck on 4710HQ as base model. Probably has optimus.

 

Why don't they give a 17" a 4K screen (-_-) seriously , might just have to get a 15"

 

demand for 15" is not just a bit higher than 17" ya know

 

yeah but 4k is a near useless marketing gimmick at 15.6"

at 17.3" or 18" it is an actual advantage, not to mention in gaming laptops you really need an SLI to handle it, and that only exists in 17"+

 

LCD manufacturers don't care about whether is it useful or not, they put out whatever with the highest demand. the demand for 17 is nowhere comparable to 15, and therefore less manufacturers are likely to make higher res 17. like you said, it's all about the market, not "usefulness"
if usefulness is what corporations cared about then macbooks would've been out of the game a long time ago

 

What can you offer me for 1600€?
I need max graphics performance and if possible no throtteling and it should be light.
I wanted the MSI GS70/GS60 but i was told it runs way too hot.
I will wait till the new cards come out, but i would like to see what would be good.
I dont care if 15 or 17".

 

What Notebook Should I Buy? - A Laptop Buyers Guide

 

Hard to recommend specifics, but I would look for a Clevo, Acer Nitro, Gigabyte, or Lenovo with a 970m IF that is your permanent budget. On the other hand many other options open up if you buy one with no SSD drives or watch for a sale (Black Friday / Cyber Monday are soon).

For now though just wait, no-one can give you a specific one till they are released.

 

Eventually everything will be soldered. Probably not even allowed to open the damn thing up, just these hired monkeys that work on tech that have the weird shaped screw driver that allows them to access it. They have probably booby trapped the entire inside with tape, infrared invisible lasers attached to a counter than can be read thorugh a LAN cable attached to the tech monkeys machines of they fear you have opened their property. Because in the end, we will just sort of rent the machine, but it really belongs to the manufacturer. If you want to buy a new machine, everything is set up and ready for you. You have the option to buy the economic pack, the mainstream pack or the hardcore pack. All of them overpriced of course and the hardware isnt really worth the money no matter what you buy.

MSI and Gigabyte and Asus using soldered HQ processors on their high end gaming machines is just the beginning. Fear the future :confused2:

 

Ningyo did you see my previous message in response to your comments on the GT72's display?

 

Sorry I saw it but couldn't elaborate on it I have never seen it in person all my info is just based on reviews, go look at more of them or ask in an owners lounge.

reviews tend to make it out as a perfectly adequate TN screen, but below what you should expect from a machine in its price range. There appears to be nothing truly bad about it, and if you are not that picky about your display it is probably fine.

 

GT72 with GTX 980M and 8GB VRAM indeed
MSI GT72 2QE-229NL Dominator Pro - Laptopshop.be

GT72 with GTX 970M and 6GB VRAM
http://www.misteroops.com/systemes/10264-_gt72_2qd-dom-262fr-po-msi-gt722qd-262-4719072368616.html

Doesnt look like we are gonna have a VRAM issue for the Maxwell cards. Nvidia plays it smart and know that DSR will require quite a bit of VRAM

 

Some people were saying that a i7 4710 would bottleneck a 880m. What about a 980m? Why didnt they changed the processor??

 

I posted my sceptisism here month ago too on if GTX 980M will not be able to spread its wings under certain scenarios, but the other people here think it will do just fine. It will undoubtly be interesting to find out when reviews hit

Mobile processors are generally very fast compared to mobile GPUs, but Maxwell 980M too will be very fast (780M SLI) so its ok to be sceptic

 

"Some people" don't like to read... discussed earlier in the thread. CPU won't be a bottleneck.

 

Probably not in most cases, but if you want to take full advantage of a 120Hz screen you'll want the fastest CPU you can afford.

 

yeah CPU could bottleneck games, but they will bottleneck to 45+ FPS most often 55-60+FPS even in the 10-20% of games it bottlenecks at all. Assuming you have a 60hz display this really just is not a big deal, not to mention most of those games a single 980m would at best get a few more FPS anyway on ultra settings.

On the other hand if you have a 120+hz screen, or a VR set, or a 3D screen, AND have a 970m/980m SLI; then you may well want a better CPU.

 

Thanks! I do want a top-quality display, so I hope they fixed what was wrong for this second generation of GT72s...

 

The future is desktop it seems. Even the most customizable laptop cannot replace its place. I didn't even know that HQ processors soldered into the motherboard until your post. It certainly won't be surprise if next generation GPUs will be non-MXM compatible and soldered into the motherboard as well...

 

I hope those prices aren't accurate... $2300 USD for a 970M GT72,... eek. I'm kinda keeping my eye on a MSI Dominator Dragon Edition 1866, hoping those roll around with the 970s for ~$1600-1700

 

edit: nevermind I misread a link.

 

Nvm forget what I typed.

 

now that you brought it up
Self-Destructing SSDs Will Nuke Themselves If You Text Them a Code Word
how do you like that huh? :thumbsup:

 

Who knows, maybe this "let solder everything" fad will bleed over to the desktop space. Not like the uninformed mass sheeple would give a damn anyway, and they make up the largest market share for better or for worse.

 

Have you been watching Brazil, by any chance? ,-)

 

Oh joy. Solder everything! Weee! Desktop chips better be soldered too, see how much backlash they get.

 

Guys, no desktop will be soldered. And today is the Maxwell mobile's launch day according to Notebookcheck, let's see!

 

I beg to differ.

 

Desktops will become extinct. As for soldered components you are right. Things will be so more efficient and advanced it won't be as easy as putting the square cpu in the socket or the rectangular gpu in pcie slot. Gpus will be smaller than you could see. PC power will be way more powerful than any gamer, enthusiast or hobbyist could ever use or need and thus the advanced computers will go to industrial problems and unfathomable things. According to Moores law in 20 years technology will be 1,024 times more powerful than it is now. Games will look like real life and not need more processing power but that does not mean an end to advancements. Building robots will be the new hobby. Maybe games with real robots. Looking forward to it.

An entire motherboard with all of its components will be smaller than modern cpus. And it will be so much faster than the giant crap we have today and a lot cheaper. Desktops in the 80-90s do not even compare to an iphone in terms of processing power. Of course it will be soldered. Its gonna be unfathomable. All the technology today is unfathomable to me the way it is.

 

You mean:

 

So no MXM 3.0b versions of the 970M and 980M

 

Sounds like exactly what has happened with the auto industry. Unfortunately it makes sense for the manufacturer.

There's a great post of the Oculus Rift forums discussing exactly this in regards to VR:

https://developer.oculusvr.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=764#p7745

TLDR, to imitate real life we're a loooong way off yet.

 

They're MXM...

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Yeah, they are MXM. Who's spreading this crap, lol?

Don't start down this road. Next thing you know articles will be coming out with headlines, "RUMORS ARE MAXWELL IS NOT MXM BASED!"

 

Thank god.. was getting a little worried I can't wait to get a 970M or 980M almost as good as me R9 290 Tri X I'm excited

 

Mobile Maxwell cards will be mxm. It's just that some manufacturers will integrate the mxm board directly on the mainboard, so actually it would seem like soldered. That is used for space constrains and low profile heatsink design.

During my thesis, I came accross an article in my professor's pc regarding the future of connected devices. It was written that in the future (10-20 years from now), we would be interacting with neurolinkers (devices that transmit images and sound directly at our brains) and that everything would be connected to a kind of global network. Also the hardware would become more simplified, passing most of the raw processing on software.
We got plenty of movies suggesting that kind of future (matrix, avatar, the surrogates to name a few).
Forget the traditional keyboard and mouse, we would be interacting directly with our brains. They already have mapped (electromagnetically) on a milisecond level a brain's thought process activity.
I'm not a conspiracy theorist but heck, sometimes tecnology really scares me

 

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic". Sky's the limit, it's just figuring out how to get there

 

You man reminded me Real Steel. It would be cool to have one of the robots to fight on the streets with friends

 

They actually already use direct nueral linking for certain applications, most of it is still done in laboratory testing, but some is used in certain advanced prosthesis and such as well. Its nothing like the level needed for VR gaming or such, but that could easily be reached in 10-20 years. Will it be thats another question, its kind of like the sending a person to Mars or such, we could do it but no-one actually bothered to care enough. I suspect nueral linking will become a reality in the near future though, it just has too many applications, and most of the steps along the way are useful in their own right.

 

Although it's possible that might happen in the future, I don't believe it will be 10 yrs from now - think 10 yrs ago (2004), technology hasn't come on that far since then, at least not enough to assume that in 10 yrs we will be interacting with computers in a sophisticated way at the neural level. 20 yrs maybe, but I reckon it will be more like at least 50yrs until you get Avatar type level (if at all).

EDIT: I think the main problem is understanding and mapping how the brain works at a very minute & detailed level, not everyone's brain is the same, so I think that would cause some problems. Once that hurdle is overcome they then have to create the hardware that will be able to interact with all those tiny (& probably very numerous) connections, and then of course you might need an operation in order to install any interfaces. Main hurdle is understanding the brain enough to allow this kind of progression I think.

 

If it becomes more advanced than this i think i would become concerned.. Ai in fighting robots is not a good idea

 

Yep ... we are the ones who MUST control the bots or it will end really badly even with 3 main rules for robots...

 

Let's add a fourth rule saying "no rebellions" and a fifth saying "never try to take over the world or surpass humans as the dominant race". Should work.

 

Tehcnology and science progress exponentially Robbo99999... not linearly.
Technologically, reasource-wise as well as the know-how aren't the problem even today... the main issue here is the system we live in which doesn't concern itself with what is possible to create using latest science, technology and superior synthetic materials... but what is 'cost efficient' (monetarily cheap to mass produce) and generate profits.

Realistically though, automation is increasing exponentially... it already surpassed humans in every field, now its just a matter of time of the costs falling down... and the more automated a society is, from a monetary point of view, prices of technology continue to drop at a faster pace.

10 years may not seem like a long time... but you cannot discard exponential development and integration.
Only time will tell, but one thing is for sure - the current system is on its way out.

 

Clevo P377SM-A with GTX 980M SLI for $2700
Laptop XTREEM EX by Clevo P377SM-A dla Gracza

 

Hi,
I'm newbie

It's a barebone. You must add:

processor, memory, HDD/SSD, DVD/BR, OS etc.

Delivery time: 31.10.2014

 

A hell you are right, I didnt notice that. So we are looking $3000++ here

Edit:$3400 for the cheapest configuration

 

Ca. 3700-3800 USD.

(4710, 16GB, 128 GB SSD, 2TB Raid 5400, W8.1, DVD, Gelid CPU&GPU, Intel WIFI)

 

I remember reading a few years back about real functional cyborg limbs in national geographic. They are real ladies and gentlemen. A teacher had a fully functional electronic limb with nerves and all attached to where she lost her arm and wounded army vets had the same attached to where their legs were.

 

In whatever bloody country that is. No idea what currency that is but they want 290 something for one stick of 8gb ram. If thats euro that is 365 dollars us. If its really anywhere close to that I will not buy a laptop at all. 365 dollars for ram lol. Go to hell, any company who asks that.

EDIT: not euro. I do not know what currency that is. But at that price i am getting a g751