GTX 980M / 970M Maxwell (Un)official news

I think so.

 

To that point, I do kind of understand, however I will disagree. For a 120Hz screen, a lot of old titles (like Tomb Raider 2013 for example) have SSAA or are generally exceedingly demanding and a 980M or 970M SLI setup would make sure that they'd get closer to 120fps. Far Cry 3 & FC3 Blood Dragon, Tomb Raider 2013, Sleeping Dogs, Batman: Arkham City & maybe Origins, Deus Ex Human Revolution, Grid 2, Metro 2033 & Last Light, Serious Sam 3 BFE (if you turn up the hidden settings that aren't adjusted purely by selecting "ultra" preset), Titanfall, BF4, etc ALL will benefit on a 120Hz or 144Hz (external) screen a WHOLE LOT from 980M/970M SLI if you turn the graphics all the way up.

Believe me, while the 780M SLI I have is by no means too weak, I could most definitely do with 980M SLI for some of my older games. =D.

This bit however I do not understand. 6GB and 8GB vRAM in single GPU systems are not going to be underutilized... you don't need SLI to take advantage of it. It all depends on how much data the game needs to push (memory bandwidth) and the vRAM buffer size it requires. It is preferable to get more vRAM any time you can take it, unless it breaks the chip in some way (like it did the 880M; though the 6GB 870M was fine and quite cool for its power)

 

Good point on the 120hz/3D etc... I was only thinking 60 hz.

On the rest thats pretty much what I meant I apparently am very unclear, lol you say it all so much better than me.

 

Believe me, I bought this machine so I'd never have to turn down settings (well not for a long time) and I noticed that for 120fps chasing, you usually do, or some games simply don't like it. I'd rather take my ~93fps in Grid 2 maxed than lower the settings and get it a bit smoother though. If however I was getting say... 45fps? That'd be a different story.

I just need to repaste my CPU so I can actually play Grid 2 more. It makes my CPU so bloody hot right now it's a joke.

 

I live in the Netherlands

If I make a clevo with precisely same specs then I'm not going to get a cheaper laptop and will be missing some features too.

Msi: 15.6 inch fullhd screen
Cpu:Intel i7 4710hq
Gpu: gtx 880m
16gb ddr3-1600mhz ram
Good speakers+ surround sound sound card
Killer gaming networking card with ac works wireless and over lan
1gb 7200Rpm hard drive
128gb SSD
1750 euros
Ports don matter tbh lets just take these main specs

Clevo :
Fullhd screen 15.6 inch
Cpu: Intel i7 4700mq
Gpu: gtx 880m
16gb ddr3-1600 ram
Killer wireless n1202 has no wifi ac like msi while msi does
1gb 7200rpm hdd
128gb SSD
1870 euros

If you'd use the 17inch gt72 from msi it'd be 2000 euros but then using a higher end clevo will equal it out.

I Am by no means saying that one is better I prefer msi but people seem to believe that clevo is cheap while it actually isn't. (Interested in the new WQHD model they're going to deliver though)

 

In the UK, Clevo is definitely the cheapest of them all. Guess it's a regional thing?

 

If I'd order at pcspecialist I'd have 25 shipping fee plus 50 keyboard transfer to us international.
So it'll automatically up my prices thus going for bto is cheaper for me but it still isn't cheap.

If only laptops were as cheap as in the USA here.

 

Hi guys i Was wondering as i already got the refund for my alienware 17 with 880m,16gb ram,120hz screen etc i paid around 3200$ and i bought it as sson as it launched so the price was little high and now as i got full refund due to 880m issues i am just waiting for the new 980m to release so that i can buy the alienware 17 with 980m.

Do you guys think alienware 17 with 980m,120hz screen will cost under 3300$?as that's the maximum i am willing to pay.

 

Hey everyone. Another newbie question from me - are 120 Hz screens sometimes included on MSi models? How much do they typically cost (for example if someone wanted to replace the default screen with a 120 Hz one)? Would it make sense to get a 120 Hz screen with only one 980M, or are SLI 970Ms/980Ms a requirement? Thanks a lot!

 

Nope. Clevo is the only one I know of that still offers 120Hz panels. Maybe the Alienware 17, but I don't know. I remember the earlier models having them, but the AW18 doesn't anymore, sadly.

 

Wow, that is impressive, 3 times the GPU power of my current GPU in a thin laptop (and still on 28nm of course!)! Even so I don't think I'll be upgrading until games don't run smoothly with good detail levels - I'll probably end up upgrading at some point during the next die shrink.

 

MSI GS60 15,6" WQHD+ IPS A-GL i7-4710HQ 16GB 2x128SSD+1TB GTX 970M 3GB noOS GOLD GS60 2QE-023XPL www.emarket.pl

Another leak from Polish reseller - 8k Pln (1920EUR) for 3k, dual ssd 970m ghost pro

 

That's a Gold Version ... Hopefully non Gold FHD version with SSD and 970M won't cost more than 1450€ with 20% vat. so I can get it without vat for around 1200€ ... I WANT IT SO MUCH !!!

 

120 Hz only on customizable laptops like Alienware and Clevo (Sager,BTO,w/e custom laptop site offers)

Just a note though unless you SLI the cards i don't think it's worth getting a 120 Hz panel.

 

That depends on the game he is playing. A single 980M is within the ballpack of SLI 780Ms, so it can handle most games at 120Hz. A single 780M can handle quite a few games at 120Hz too, depending on settings/release date/etc. But yes, SLI would cement the usefulness, however not all games use it, so saying it's not worth it is impossible XD.

 

MSI told me that at first, only gold 3k version will be offered (wrote abt this around 40 pages ago or so...)

 

It matters in which country you are Anyways in my opinion that gold chassis looks terrible, yeah sure it looks more like a premium laptop but not like a gaming one -_-

 

Poland, i should have point it out earlier, my bad

 

Just a point on SLI that I think people misunderstand still is that two cards with 4GB RAM does not act like a single card with 8GB RAM. It makes more sense to have higher vRAM amounts in an SLI system because you will be able to play the Ultra settings because of two cards doing the work, but they both hold the same data in their vRAM.

 

Thanks for your answers!

 

If I was interested in a 120hz screen with 970/980 where should I look?

 

Any Sager or Clevo dealer. I recommend LPC-Digital.com. Talk to Larry.

 

I am here
Jk i guess i wasnt meant
Is there any country in europe, where the upcoming notebooks would be cheaper than in austria?
I am thinking of france and poland.

 

I just saw an article referring to a 975M. Anyone hear (read) anything about that? I am assuming it's just speculation.

 

Germany have the best price for Clevo Barebone ... In France, all is expensive, that 's why we are in economical trouble :cry: .

 

Give. Me. Preorder!

Take my cash!

 

Yup, just idly waiting by. Can't decide what I'm going to go with yet though... It's a 4 way tie between GT70 Dominator, GS70, Asus G751, or M17. Just waiting to see those final price/performance(temp) numbers and then I'll make my bid.

 

I think I would wait until these new cards are actually released and ordinary people get there hand on them. Then we will know for sure what we have.

 

Can't wait, I'm riding PCless right now lol, parted out my two PCs, was ready to buy 880m about a month ago..

 

I understand. I went from a Dell M4500 to the NP8278 with 880M in the Spring.

 

the second nvidia remove NDA im on the phone ordering my 980m SLI system as my replacement for the 880m SLI system.

 

Just out of interest, what on earth will you be able to play noticeably better on 980M SLI than 880M SLI? Or are you just going for temps (in which case your CPU and 'southbridge' will still be cooking courtesy of Maxwell the Master Chef)? I myself initially toyed with dual 980M's for X-Plane 10, but then realized CPU (throttling in particular, regardless of model) would mean almost no gain v single card (or a totally crazy cost per frame per second gained).

 

Few weeks ago i have almost bought ghost pro 870,16gb,2x128ssd, 1tb hdd but all resellers in poland were out of stock until 22.09 and during waiting for them to resupply i found leaked info abt 970m

I cant imagine how pissed i would be, after paying 1600 euro for notebook that would have become outdated 2weeks after purchasing it

 

I am willing to be a guinea pig for the new generation- I had a 8600M GT originally, moved on to 9800M GS, from there 260M GTX, to a GTX 675MX (wish I had kept it, sold it off for extra $$$ for a car) then moved down to my current 640M GT (which is barely alive) so I'm ready. If I had dual 880's or 870's, I would most likely wait for GM200 or the shader increase that's sure to follow the 9 series. I imagine it to be like 680M > 780M. I think if I'd not needed the money for other stuff, my 675MX would still have been good enough for this years could hold out for 'third gen maxwell', but the 640 just isn't.

 

My 880m sli system is sitting at scan uk because no matter that we did it was throttling. so im not paying anything for the 980m's its is basically a free upgrade.

 

It doesn't make the 870m any less powerful- if you already bought one and are happy with the performance, its not like your card suddenly goes bad. With the 870 you know what you are getting and won't be a guinea pig for the new cards which could theoretically develop their own new problems.

 

No, it doesn't make 870m's slow or bad, but I could easily see the frustration knowing your timing was off by a measly two weeks before finding a brand new generation of GPUs were literally right around the corner that would easily carry you at least another year or two before having to upgrade vs the 870m which will be under powered much sooner. All for approx the same price, give or take.

 

interesting thread.

curious 5870m still plays new games at medium settings how is it a 4 yearold card can do this and is the 980m actually worth it.

im personally interested in 1080p med/low gaming as i see no diff with ultra or high, so i guess im either blind or dumb. do you think the 980m will be still a mid range card in 5 years? opinions please

 

Yeah, that would be frustrating, but like I said, some people just don't want to chance it on a new generation, and some wait for those old inventories to become a great deal. I guess it's all perspective. If you were looking for latest and greatest, yeah, that'd suck.

 

Only another week?

 

Haha, thanks, you made me laugh, but in a good way of course - it was the blind or dumb comment! I think in 5yrs the 980M will be a low end card.

 

Form fits function. I understand that but most game applications will not need much. Steam survey showed most gamers have 8gb or less of ram. There are people who need more ram and better cpu. But I was referring to the people who just think bigger numbers means a better laptop. It depends on the how the user will use it. So you are right. I survived for 5 years with 6gbs of ram. Because I do not need more to game.

You can buy the screen for $91 on ebay and replace your laptop screen yourself but it has to match 100% with your laptop.

Yes

And another reason to get Clevo: one of two brands that offers 120hz monitor but you could always buy the screen yourself and replace it but depends on compatibility. G750 uses same screen as Clevo.

I am ready to see these numbers: price and performance. Performance too low and price too high, lol, then I will keep my money. I feel bad for all the foreign buyers. Buying on black friday so I have time to review prices and benchmarks. You guys can lemme know how it goes.

 

Yeah can`t say I`m very happy here sitting with my iPad touching a freaking screen and being able to have top 2 tabs open without it refusing to cooperate.

True, but I think most know now what we are in for.
Kepler spanking extravaganza

I`m also interested in the Aorus with 970M SLI. Should run significant cooler than the 870M v2 model.
But it depends on the CPU temps if they have fixed that.

Yeah got to remove that one red block and have a perfect streak
DSR will also be good with 980M SLI. Much smoother graphics and now we have something powerful enough to play high res

 

I really want the Aorus due to the size, but I'm thinking about the extra wait time I'm sure might come with it. If that's the case, I can probably get SLi Clevo with the 980's for a comparable price... at the cost of portability. Ah, decisions, decisions.

 

Yeah aurous could be a really nice thin laptop if the 970ms are cool.

 

Ehhh... we definitely hyped this up waaaaay too early for our own good. I'm so sick of waiting...

 

Same here, late November for me hopefully. Damn i might just go and build a freakin desktop.

 

Just a matter of week or two until someone got a GTX 980M.

We are super close. Cant wait to see reviews

 

Now we know what sort of power to expect I'd be interested to see how much juice is needed while they are being OCed.

 

If anyone finds a review please post it here