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    Gtx 660m

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Oats04, Jan 11, 2012.

  1. VAL@NBR

    VAL@NBR Notebook Consultant

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    This laptop truly is a BEAST! I can testify. I did pay a little more though :p As far as the new cards go I'm not too worried about it - every bit of this is user-upgradable if power is permitting. And we know there's always a way around just about anything.
    With the Dual 560's on this Intel chip games are "blasting away"!!! :D
     
    VAL@NBR, Mar 6, 2012
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  2. long2905

    long2905 Notebook Virtuoso

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    they seem to still use the MXM 3.0B format
     
    long2905, Mar 6, 2012
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  3. anycolour

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    It would be nice if people would actually discuss about the GTX 660m.
     
    anycolour, Mar 11, 2012
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  4. aduy

    aduy Keeping it cool since 93'

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    it would be nice if there was gtx 660m to discuss, i guess we will just have to wait a few hours.
     
    aduy, Mar 11, 2012
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  5. PaKii94

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    sooo i just kinda spent a good amount of time reading through all the posts...and i got nothing out of it. if the gt 640m is around gt 555m i would expect the gt 650m to be faster.. guess not...
     
    PaKii94, Mar 11, 2012
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  6. aduy

    aduy Keeping it cool since 93'

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    does anyone know if intel graphic cores are more powerful than nvidia or amd cores
     
    aduy, Mar 11, 2012
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  7. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    clearly they are. to have around 5400 series performance with only 12 cores... and there is the HD 4000, it will pack 16 and give a performance lesser than the igp of amd, however much smaller in terms of die size
     
    Karamazovmm, Mar 11, 2012
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  8. aduy

    aduy Keeping it cool since 93'

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    after some searching i found that each of the hd 4000s 16 eu(execution units) is similar to one amd vliw unit, which contains 5 streaming cores or whatever. so the hd 4000 would be equivalent to a 6620g. although intel has pretty bad drivers so im not sure if thats accurate.
     
    aduy, Mar 12, 2012
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  9. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    similar regarding what power? the arch is way different.

    and yes the intel drivers have improved, the latest drivers for the hd3000 are quite ok
     
    Karamazovmm, Mar 12, 2012
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  10. ssri

    ssri Notebook Evangelist

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    ssri, May 4, 2012
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  11. w3ak3stl1nk

    w3ak3stl1nk Notebook Consultant

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    bump... the 660m is out... now what?
     
    w3ak3stl1nk, May 9, 2012
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  12. SlickDragon

    SlickDragon Notebook Consultant

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    Eh i can vouch that its a decent gpu, in the asus G75vw it never goes above the 30's while idling/browsing, even with the intel hd4000 perma disabled. While gaming its usually in the 40's, maybe it will hit 50 or so under max load so far from what i've seen, which is rather impressive. Performance leaves a bit to be desired, but it should suffice for most. Overclocking it is not that easy though, and nvidia hasn't updated their system tools to support it. Msi Afterburner supposedly can help, but the automatic turbo boost introduced with kepler seems to be more of a roadblock than helpful for people who want/need to manually overclock..
     
    SlickDragon, May 9, 2012
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  13. long2905

    long2905 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Its unclear if there would be an ungimped 192 bit version or not. If yes, would it be much better?
     
    long2905, May 9, 2012
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  14. Cloudfire

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    If you`re looking for a midrange GPU its not a bad choice.
    Compare it with GTX 560M, its a pretty good scoop.
    Its about 20-25W less but about 30% better performance

    No wonder it runs cool
     
    Cloudfire, May 9, 2012
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  15. SlickDragon

    SlickDragon Notebook Consultant

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    Yeh i've sadly been pretty busy this past week so can't keep up with all the new threads and many of the old threads that dissect all the new technology, but the purported 75w its labelled at is likely inaccurate. Even if somehow it was 75w it certainly doesn't feel like it, and its been outrageously cool. Here is a picture showcasing the temps while playing an ultra demanding game on the PCSX2 emulator called Gran Turismo 3 [​IMG]

    Nonetheless its very unlikely that a 192bit version of it or even a 256bit version (presumably the imaginary gtx 680m) of it would hold a candle to the brute unparalleled power of the 7970m. Even if Nvidia bumped up the clocks outrageously to avoid their 4600 scoring catastrophe, it will likely be scorching hot, well over 100 tdp and prone to throttling as per the norm, extremely limited overclockability, and brutally expensive. No doubt the 7970m has already won the crown this year regardless of what Nvidia eeks out eventually, and as such its the most desirable Gpu on the planet.
     
    SlickDragon, May 9, 2012
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  16. KernalPanic

    KernalPanic White Knight

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    Hold on here, the 660m is not designed to compete with the likes of 7970m.
    The 680m will be built on a more robust GPU with more cores. (likely the 660Ti desktop or 670 Desktop)

    A 192-bit or 256-bit memory interface is not really needed as its overkill for this range of GPU. Keep in mind, the 660m has more memory bandwidth than a 192-bit 560m due to faster GDDR5.
     
    KernalPanic, May 9, 2012
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  17. mtrein

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    NissanGTR used to bet his life it would. Weird he vanished from these topics. I guess he already thinks it is old tech.
     
    mtrein, May 9, 2012
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  18. KernalPanic

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    I think we can fairly conclude he was not being realistic. :)
     
    KernalPanic, May 9, 2012
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  19. Silverfern

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    Silverfern, May 12, 2012
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  20. w00pw0p

    w00pw0p Notebook Guru

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    Hi guys,

    I'm sorry if this has been answered but the search function wasn't working and to be honest, I just couldn't sift through 37 pages to see if it had been, so I hope you'll forgive me if it has.

    I've been looking at getting the Clevo 151EM with a GTX 660M recently, but I've run into something that confuses me. I've looked at a bunch of resellers and I've seen the 660M offered with 1.0GB GDDR5 (logicalblueone - Australia), 1.5GB GDDR5 (malibal) and 2.0GB (xotic on an ASUS). Now I'm not very computer saavy but from looking around the forums and online, it would seem that more is better in this case? But I haven't been able to find any info on it online about there being 3 different 660Ms, so I'm not really sure what's going on.

    So my question is, are there 3 different 660Ms out there and if there are, would it mean getting the one with the 2.0GB of Video memory (I think that's what it stands for?) offers the best performance?

    Thanks everyone and I realize that this card's only been available for a short period of time so if this info hasn't been released yet that's cool. I just thought I'd ask here as I was confident I'd get an answer either way.
     
    w00pw0p, May 12, 2012
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  21. roberto.tomas

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    I just stopped by lenovo and had this conversation with tech:

    From this we can note: The y480 14" laptops, which are selling right now as low as ~$900 with the 640m, will come with those killer 650m and 660m options, probably when the 17.3" releases.

    Is lenovo gunning for Alienware or what? :p
     
    roberto.tomas, May 12, 2012
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  22. Supranium

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    Kepler handles memory usage very well. So i´d get the cheapest notebook you can get. Even 1GB vRAM is enough for that card. You will not be gaming above 1080p resolution and high AA anyway.
     
    Supranium, May 12, 2012
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  23. wild05kid05

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    ^ and you believe it ?


    Sent from my wholly molly new iPad using Tapatalk
     
    wild05kid05, May 12, 2012
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  24. w00pw0p

    w00pw0p Notebook Guru

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    That's good to hear, so this confirms the fact that there are 3 separate models of the 660M being offered? I'm actually leaning towards the logicalblueone model with the 1.0GB since I am in Australia at the moment and that would be the quickest, easiest and cheapest way to get a 9130 but was hesitant because of the seemingly drop in performance when compared to malibal or xotic.
     
    w00pw0p, May 12, 2012
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  25. Netherwind

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    I love that you believe Lenovo's tech support, let alone believe that they can make decent laptops, they're y series is horrible.
     
    Netherwind, May 12, 2012
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  26. anycolour

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    I need to find a decent laptop, under $1000, with a 15 inch screen that has the 660m.

    Any ideas?
     
    anycolour, May 12, 2012
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  27. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    why it needs to be the 660m? you can get the 670m for around 900, check the force 16f3 or the 16f2
     
    Karamazovmm, May 12, 2012
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  28. Kevin

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    Under $1k is just never going to happen, but there's a couple Clevo machines with the GT 650M in the $900 range.
     
    Kevin, May 12, 2012
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  29. pcsavvy

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    hey guys,
    Is it worthwhile to upgrade my GX640 to 660m?
    i know performance ranges up to 6970m/7870m/570m

    but anyone have prove on heat, performance, power usage?
     
    pcsavvy, Jun 18, 2012
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  30. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    How much does the GTX 660M cost? Seems way more efficient to go for the 7970M.
     
    Kevin, Jun 18, 2012
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  31. pcsavvy

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    GTX-660M-Kepler
     
    pcsavvy, Jun 18, 2012
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  32. pcsavvy

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    Ha, the 7970m produce to much heat for this notebook, the stock GPU is 5850m around 40W TDP.
     
    pcsavvy, Jun 18, 2012
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  33. SoundOf1HandClapping

    SoundOf1HandClapping Was once a Forge

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    To owners of the GTX 660M, does it do that turbo thing while running benchmarks, like, say, Vantage? I'm trying to see if those scores on NotebookCheck are with the turbo or without. I'm guessing with, but just checking.
     
    SoundOf1HandClapping, Jun 20, 2012
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  34. F34R

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    My score is 2623... I don't really know about any turbo features being active or not though.
     
    F34R, Jun 20, 2012
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  35. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    Run a benchmark while also running something like MSI Afterburner. Enable On-screen Disaply so you can see what clocks you're using.
     
    SoundOf1HandClapping, Jun 20, 2012
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  36. CluckyTaco

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    So upgrading to a GTX 660m is not worth it as I have come to understand from this thread. So I'm better off with a 675m right?
     
    CluckyTaco, Jul 10, 2012
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  37. MegaBUD

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    Its not an upgrade... but its a lot cheaper... also the 650m gt ddr5 is the same card as the 660m gtx...
     
    MegaBUD, Jul 10, 2012
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  38. aduy

    aduy Keeping it cool since 93'

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    well the 660 comes in mxm 3.0b the 650 doesnt. and the 660m has better cooling, and higher voltage.
     
    aduy, Jul 10, 2012
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  39. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    Cooling depends on the laptop itself. From what I can see the MSI GE60 uses the same heatsinks for both cards.
     
    SoundOf1HandClapping, Jul 10, 2012
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  40. Mobius 1

    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    If the 650M is basically a 900MHz GTX 660M and is able to pull 1020MHz+

    Does this mean the stock 660M can pull 1100MHz+ with stock voltage overclocked?

    Moreover if it's overvolted with a BIOS mod, anyone thinking 1150MHz+?
     
    Mobius 1, Jul 10, 2012
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  41. jaug1337

    jaug1337 de_dust2

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    Wat

    Haven't been active recently why is Cloudfire banned?

    Anyways, the 660M is supposed to pull 1100MHz if done correctly!! also no need for a custom BIOS, you should do fine
    Someone on this forum managed 1000MHz on the 650M WITHOUT artifacts :p can't find the post thought :(
     
    jaug1337, Jul 10, 2012
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  42. Mobius 1

    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Hmm, so 1200MHz+ if you mod the BIOS? ;)

    You can find a 650M 1020MHz+ on the apple/mac os forum "retina MBP bootcamp overclocking"


    But how many FPS can this overclocked 660M pull on 2033 and 3dmark vantage/11?
     
    Mobius 1, Jul 10, 2012
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  43. svl7

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    Oh, you sure missed some action here... he's not the only one who went red... :rolleyes:

    Prema actually runs his 650m at 1200MHz with my vbios mod... if I remember correctly :D
     
    svl7, Jul 10, 2012
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  44. Supranium

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    My sig 3dm11 run clock speed is also 100% stable for gaming. Played hours of bf3 and skyrim with it.
    GPU/DDR (970)1085/1060 wiht stock vbios. Im sure that GPU would clock even higher. I just ran out of slider in AB :D .
     
    Supranium, Jul 11, 2012
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  45. MegaBUD

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    Well... guess i wasted that 50 extra $ for a 660m... i get the same overclock...
     
    MegaBUD, Jul 12, 2012
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  46. Supranium

    Supranium Notebook Evangelist

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    You have GDDR5 on your GTX660, while im stuck with DDR3. With a same OC, you still get better results due more memory bandwith.
     
    Supranium, Jul 12, 2012
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  47. Nahrai

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    Nahrai, Jul 12, 2012
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  48. Mobius 1

    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I thought since the 650M is originally not intended to be an MXM based card, the vBIOS is tied to the mobo BIOS?


    You have a 650M in your asus, not a 660M
     
    Mobius 1, Jul 12, 2012
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  49. Zymphad

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    660M seems to be the nearly perfect sweetspot for mid-range gaming. They ought to have made it 192bit GDDR5 though.
     
    Zymphad, Jul 12, 2012
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  50. Supranium

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    Lol? Where did i say anything different?
     
    Supranium, Jul 12, 2012
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