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    HURRAY: Nvidia 600 series not just Fermi!! (Kepler)

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Cloudfire, Mar 2, 2012.

  1. awakeN

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    It might be in the same kind of laptops with the 560M/570M/580M
     
    awakeN, Mar 21, 2012
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    midzi, Mar 21, 2012
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  3. awakeN

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    Interesting... 640M somewhat beats the 555M, the 650M beats the 560M, so perhaps we're seeing the 660M beat the 570M?

    (I hope?)
     
    awakeN, Mar 21, 2012
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    Maybe close to it.
     
    plancy, Mar 21, 2012
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  5. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    We will find out very soon :)
     
    Cloudfire, Mar 21, 2012
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  6. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    OMG! Even I wanna get a clevo 11.6" after seeing these results! (desktop replacement guy here :D)
     
    maxheap, Mar 21, 2012
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  7. Kevin

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    The P150EM and P170EM.
     
    Kevin, Mar 22, 2012
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  8. one.de Support

    one.de Support Company Representative

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    The GTX675M is not a Fermin rebrand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    @P270WM barebone:
    GTX580M: 13.8000 / 3DVantage
    GTX675M: 17.500 / 3DVantge
     
    one.de Support, Mar 22, 2012
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  9. long2905

    long2905 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Lol wut? You are kidding? OMG! If that is true I would break the bank to get one without second thought.
     
    long2905, Mar 22, 2012
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  10. aduy

    aduy Keeping it cool since 93'

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    phew its not a fermin rebrand well thank g** for that. and thats good but i will still wait for the 680 or 780 or 785
     
    aduy, Mar 22, 2012
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  11. gamba66

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    wheres your source for that?
     
    gamba66, Mar 22, 2012
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  12. yknyong1

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    Looks like AMD may have 8000 series released later this year...

    700 series coming soon. And I am waiting for the GTX 68 5...


    Dreaming, but still possible.
     
    yknyong1, Mar 22, 2012
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  13. one.de Support

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    Samplebarebone :cool:
     
    one.de Support, Mar 22, 2012
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  14. pau1ow

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    If you have any proof of what you're stating, It will be very helpful.
     
    pau1ow, Mar 22, 2012
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  15. yknyong1

    yknyong1 Radiance with Radeon

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    yknyong1, Mar 22, 2012
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  16. aduy

    aduy Keeping it cool since 93'

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    hey look dx 11.1!
     
    aduy, Mar 22, 2012
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    one.de Support

    any screenshots? no proof = no truth, you know how it works)
     
    Red Line, Mar 22, 2012
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  18. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    BTW that is a SLI machine with desktop CPU... ;)
     
    Prema, Mar 22, 2012
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  19. pau1ow

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    Stay tuned :) It might just be that the 675m is an overclocked 580m. Anyway my 580m performs already P17.5k GPU with my stable clocks but still looking forward to seeing the 675m perfs.
     
    pau1ow, Mar 22, 2012
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    ExMM, Mar 22, 2012
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  21. Red Line

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    17,5k P score on single GTX580M is achieved with 0.92v bios and extreme (non gaming) clocks. If one.de statement that 675M = Kepler!!! is correct april should one hell of a month)
     
    Red Line, Mar 22, 2012
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  22. pau1ow

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    You right, but it is achieveed by 0.92 vbios and gaming clocks, why extreme. Extreme is performing almost 1000points extra. Anyway if the 675M is kepler or is performing P17500@stock, I might get hold of it :( but that would be a pleasant surprise after all the leaks we've got..
     
    pau1ow, Mar 22, 2012
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  23. 5482741

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    17.5k isn't particularly high for a laptop with a Sandy Bridge desktop CPU.

    The X7200 with a 990X and a 580M gets about 1000 less:
    [​IMG]
     
    5482741, Mar 22, 2012
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  24. pau1ow

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    Good point.

    However, I think it was rather the GPU score rather than the global P score since P13800 for total score is low for GTX580m and any SB CPU.
     
    pau1ow, Mar 22, 2012
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    i can't wait until april , definitely picking up a laptop with a 650m.
     
    link1313, Mar 22, 2012
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    midzi, Mar 22, 2012
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  28. houstoned

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    it's hereee...! :D
     
    houstoned, Mar 22, 2012
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  29. ExMM

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    Based on this nvidia website the 635m GT has 192bit bus, but my friend's notebook ASUS N55, has mounted a 635M with only 128bit.

    Someone knows why? I don't see any mention about a 635M with 128bit in this link..
     
    ExMM, Mar 22, 2012
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    5482741, Mar 22, 2012
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  31. Wallzii

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    I was really looking forward to the 79XXM from ATI as an upgrade for when I get back to North America near the fall, but damn this is looking a little too delicious!

    I'm not really biased towards ATI or NVIDIA, I just seek performance and at a decent price. The next little bit should be interesting...
     
    Wallzii, Mar 22, 2012
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  32. yknyong1

    yknyong1 Radiance with Radeon

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    Either AMD is waiting to spring a surprise on NVIDIA, or the entire GCN 7000M series is dead in the water already... Which?
     
    yknyong1, Mar 22, 2012
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  33. PaKii94

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    I want a gtx 660m in a relatively think chassis :S

    hopefully amd has soemthing better instore cause nvidia is just delicious right now
     
    PaKii94, Mar 22, 2012
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  34. TheBluePill

    TheBluePill Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    AMD isn't showing its cards yet. However, i think it will be similar to the last generation in that they will have lower power options that perform 90% of the nvidia product for the discreet market, at 1/2 the price.

    AMD's genius is going to shine with Trinity, and other APU products. That is where AMD will make their mark this Generation.
     
    TheBluePill, Mar 22, 2012
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  35. PaKii94

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    any info on when all the stuff u mention are going to be revealed/released?
     
    PaKii94, Mar 22, 2012
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  36. pau1ow

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    pau1ow, Mar 22, 2012
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  37. Deks

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    Hm...
    To be honest, majority of performance increase is in the mid-range gpu's.
    Higher range ones seem to be scoring relatively close to one another.
    On top of that, if some of the benchmarks are to be taken into account, the 6xxx series seems to be producing A LOT of heat.

    To me it looks that Kepler provides better performance than the previous generation but at higher temperatures which forces Nvidia to reduce their overall potential.
    I could be wrong though.

    The mid-range gpu's seem to be exhibiting at least 50%-70% increase in performance, but the temps according to some of the benchmarks seem very high (over 90 degrees C - though that could have been due to shoddy cooling).
    Still, it doesn't bode necessarily well if it turns out to be the case for other laptops.

    I guess we will have to wait and see for more concrete results.
     
    Deks, Mar 22, 2012
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  38. rorkas

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    rorkas, Mar 22, 2012
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  40. gamba66

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    yes very hot!

    Here with an ULV Processor and 640m (which reaches 93 degrees)

    Acer Aspire M3 Timeline Ultra test
     
    gamba66, Mar 22, 2012
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  41. maxheap

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    AnandTech - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 Review: Retaking The Performance Crown

    at least I was right as per anandtech when in comes to judging Fermi...

    and here is mobile review..

    AnandTech - NVIDIA's GeForce 600M Series: Mobile Kepler and Fermi Die Shrinks
     
    maxheap, Mar 22, 2012
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  42. yknyong1

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    GONG XI FA CAI, HUAT AH, NVIDIA, highend sees no upgrade... :(

    Bummer
     
    yknyong1, Mar 22, 2012
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  43. TheBluePill

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    Nah, i figure they are just focusing on the Desktop and APU parts for now. I don't think there is any urgency on the Discreet GPU parts at this time, as they are filling the gap with "A" series parts and that 7690M. I wouldn't be surprised to only see 2-3 SKUs in the 77xx-79xx M Series.

    The Price is the issue. I think you will see the nvidia prices at the same or higher price points than now. The AMD Parts will be significantly cheaper i imagine on the upper end, and the APU's will make the low end even more affordable.

    We have a Thead on it here; http://forum.notebookreview.com/hardware-components-aftermarket-upgrades/505702-amd-fusion-info-thread-121.html

    and an article here;

    Google Oversetter

    [​IMG]
     
    TheBluePill, Mar 22, 2012
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    The Vantage and 3DMark11 score are within ~70 points of my stock Vantage GPU and stock 3DMark11 scores:

    [​IMG]

    Generic VGA video card benchmark result - Genuine Intel(R) CPU 0 @ 2.40GHz,Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-16F2 score: P3554 3DMarks

    The slight improvement in the 3dMark11 score can be attributed to the better Ivy Bridge CPU.
     
    5482741, Mar 22, 2012
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  45. yknyong1

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    The new highend parts are so similar performing that it is not even funny.

    Marketing hype... :(
     
    yknyong1, Mar 22, 2012
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    TheBluePill, Mar 22, 2012
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  47. Prema

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    Guys how many times... the GTX675M is the GTX580M. The GTX670M is a GTX570M with a little clock boost to put it a little higher than the GTX660M.
    The only high-end card that it`s worth waiting for is the GTX680M and that won`t come until June...sorry ;)
     
    Prema, Mar 22, 2012
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  48. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    now I understand why 640m-650m-660m have 384 shaders...

    from anandtech
     
    maxheap, Mar 22, 2012
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  49. yknyong1

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    up to 384... but why?

    The GT 640M already has 384 CUDA cores??? :confused:
     
    yknyong1, Mar 22, 2012
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  50. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    some maybe locked in some models, like 555m having 144 and 92 depending on brand..
     
    maxheap, Mar 22, 2012
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