HURRAY: Nvidia 600 series not just Fermi!! (Kepler)

How does that compare to the 680m? Is their difference in the same range as 6990M vs 580M?

 

until I see it, I won't believe 7970m 65W 4.6k 3dmark11, there must be something to it, it is just too good..

 

Also it'll be the same price range as 6990m...

 

Really? Do you think that we don´t know that? lol. But why should i/we buy a new battery and spend money if i/we will buy a new notebook in May/June? This notebook will be to stay at home for some emergency or for my mother surf in the web lol

 

Thats the right attitude.

 

Thats another thing I can't wait for, 8 hour battery life.

 

I was pretty sure I'd read somewhere the TDP values for the new cards, but I can't seem to find it again. So, I have no idea if the source seemed reliable or not.

Is there any semi-official information out on the TDP of the 640M/650M/660M?

I apologize if it's already in here. I've actually read through every last comment in the thread, but I can't remember them all.

 

This one? And wow, great effort in reading all of the 105 pages. Sick


http://semiaccurate.com/2011/08/23/nvidias-28nm-mobile-lineup-leaked/

 

Not sure if that was the one, but it says pretty much what I seem to remember. Thanx.

Yeah, it took a while. However, it has to be seen from a bright perspective, when I read through most of it, the thread "only" had 86 pages.

 

Why are you comparing a broken battery to a working one then? Also for about £30 I got a battery for my old acer that doubled its original life span so it's hardly ludicrous to suggest it.

 

Good for you

 

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Interesting seems like it doesn't get hot as what people where saying. Interesting the 3612qm with gt650m scores higher in mobile mark so it should be very efficient and its a cool laptop. I would have liked to see game performance without aa.

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Seems like the hd 4000 is slightly better then my laptop but I suppose its a massive step from the hd 3000 which is just basic. 2047 sm2 score and 2784 score cpu score 54999 overall 6593 score. My sm2 score is better, although hd 4000 is better at sm3 by around 700. The laptop itself a 14" weighs 2.349kg without psu and that is pretty good less then how much an envy 14 weighs with over double the 3dmark06 performance. I think gt650m is good enough for most people, I wonder how amd graphics are going to be like.

Photo: Quad-Core IVB of + Kepler 650M notebook with side X46F evaluation _ Page 6 - Notebook

3dmarkvantage score looks great but I wonder what res it was. Far better then the 560m.

 

not a bad laptop haha just a low res screen the 650m should be more than enough for that native res

there u go

 

didnt anyone notice the shader count? its a gt 540m with GDDR5

 

but the kepler shaders are diff from fermi ones

 

Lol, GPU-Z should have a disclaimer on non-properly supported GPUs, its reading badly.

 

indeed, however from the leaks regarding some samsung models, they were simply reporting the correct amount of shaders, meaning 384.

 

Also the shader clocks should no longer be double the core clocks anymore.

 

Another side effect people don't realize.. SMALLER POWER BRICKS!! Yay!

 

that IS a major thing, especially when the brick is about +1lb everyday I don't carry the brick is a happy day

 

Is it really that bad? o.o and i thought the apple power brick was huge...

 

People are just weak hahaha.

I carry 25lbs worth of weight every day due to 2 laptops and accesories, tools etc.

Field engineer ftw.

 

badarse lolol but yeah I think people complain too much about the weight... its jsut taht who doesnt like smaller slicker skinner laptop swith tiny power bricks

 

About bloody time

Nvidia approach other foundries for 28nm production

Nvidia approach other foundries for 28nm production | KitGuru

 

Good. TSMC has dropped the ball on this process in monumental fashion.

I wonder how mature Samsung's 28nm process is. I know they use 32nm processors in their phones.

 

Yeah, after 55nm they have been totally useless. Just look at the 40nm process and look how long it took them to get up to a decent production of wafers. Crazy


As for the 28nm I know Samsung and Globalfoundries have been producing High K metal gates in 28nm for mobile devices for almost 2 years now. ARM CPUs is an example. But Samsung is big so there are probably more they have made in 28nm.

 

For 2 years? No way. GloFo started only started producing from their 32nm fabs only like a year and a half ago, let alone 28nm. I'm sure the situation is similar with Samsung. None of the announced phones with a 28nm or 32nm SoC have even been launched yet.

TSMC might be having 28nm troubles all the other foundries probably aren't doing any better. I think Nvidia's best bet would be to source smaller volumes of chips from a bunch of different foundries rather than a large volume from a single foundry like they used to do.

 

ARM optimization pack speeds Globalfoundries' Cortex A9s up to 2GHz

Anyhow, we haven`t heard anything about the other foundries, but who knows although 28nm probably isn`t easy, Intel is ready with their smaller 22nm next week, with full scale production. It makes you wonder...
I remember reading about a pissed off Nvidia CEO in a meeting with TSMC and saying how disappointed they were. AMD did the smart thing, they also produce chips at IBM

 

^^ So wait, this means we are totally screwed? I hope they have enough inventory already built from TSMC, otherwise bye bye the summer of 680m

 

Hell, at this point I just hope there are enough 650/660s and whatever the AMD equiv is.

 

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According to this chart the GT 650m GDDR5 should fit comfortably between the 6850m and 6870m.

 

Samsung's 32nm process is alive and well. The new apple TV and the $400 iPad 2 both feature an A5 chip built on the 32nm process.

 

Help Me Choose: Video Cards | Dell

According to this, 7970M has 1280 shaders and is 100W. Click on the compare side by side tab of that link and scroll down for the info.

100W
1280 Shaders
850 Mhz Core Clock
1200 Mhz Memory Clock
256 bit Memory Bus
153.6 GB/s Memory Bandwidth

Just guessing on this, but it seems like the cards are listed in terms of performance.

650M --> 660M --> 675M --> 7970M --> 675M SLI --> 7970M CFX

 

That sounds reasonable. For comparison, 6990M is 1120 Stream processors at 715 MHz. Memory is much slower (900 versus 1200) and GCN cores are more efficient. 35% more theoretical throughput assuming equal shader performance (not true).

Makes it a downclocked 7870. Also quashes the idea of a 7990M. Already at 100W.

 

ok, dell confirmed it (if dell is saying it is correct), finally some sense

BTW 7970m is 150 dollars cheaper than 675m at alienware m17x-r4 configuration page..

 

NOOOO that sucks bigtime. I wanted a cooler powerful GPU
+rep for the find Skittles

 

It maybe a mistake buddy, they are famous for it, I think it is still significantly more powerful than 580m, probably a pricing mistake which will be corrected soon

 

What more were you expecting. Those numbers are about as good as one can hope for realistically.

 

I doubt Dell would falsely advertise and those 7970M specs are in line with the trend of x870/x60 becoming high end mobile cards.

 

Exactly. This shouldn't surprise anyone.

 

I wanted a 60-80W 25% faster than 6990M like I calculated earlier

BTW guys, I don`t have time to do a comparison right now but did you notice the memory bandwidth of this thing?
6990M: 115.2GB/s
7970M: 153.6GB/s

LOL

 

Bottom line : there won't be any Radeon 7990M.

 

Well, you get 30 to 35% faster for 100W. Maybe you'll get a downclocked 7850 for a 6950M.

Yup. 6990M was a reactionary product. They are committed to 100W this time so they went straight for it. Better to save the __90 parts for dual GPUs anyway, which you can't get in mobile.

 

"Ultra + x4 AA + HD texture packs @1080p you say? Oh thats nothing" - 7970M.

 

God, don't remind me. I'm happy with Skyrim running on full settings with no mods. I have to believe that

In any regard, I can't make a potential upgrade until I see the 680M. Kepler actually beats GCN in efficiency in some ways so I'm anxious to see what the desktop 660 does.

 

7970M = 7870
Same amount of cores, same bandwidth, same memory bus, same memory speed. But 7970M core clock is 150MHz lower
http://content.dell.com/us/en/home/d/help-me-choose/hmc-aw-video-card-laptops.aspx?ref=CFG

 

Nothing OC can't handle

 

Now if only someone can test the card on both MXM 3.0b and MXM 3.0c/3.1 to see how bad the performance decrease would be.

 

If only all cards could OC back to 7870 specs...

 

I would find it suprising if most of them couldn't get back at least 100MHz.