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    How will Ampere scale on laptops?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Kunal Shrivastava, Sep 6, 2020.

  1. kolias

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    Good job mate.
    Is it stable during games that oc??
     
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    Nope, have to dial it down a little. Game stable is +120 core and +1000 mem
     
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    holy crap.....i get 3900 fsg..

    what do you get in the witcher 3 ultra no hair works 1080p

    with my 1060 i have to dail down settings to get 60fps
     
  4. Kunal Shrivastava

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    Well after all the cheerful news I gave up on mobile GPUs and got this instead:

    1)Asrock z390 Taichi motherboard for 8th/9th gen.
    2)Nzxt h510 Mid tower case.
    3)Nzxt kraken x63 280mm aio liquid cooler.

    Will be salvaging the i9-9900kf from the clevo and reflashing the old 7700 bios.
    -Ditto for storage.

    Pending:
    4)850w modular PSU.
    5)RAM.
    6)...........RTX 3080?

    The motherboard was chosen mainly for the 5+2 primary+MOSFET VRM Configuration(12 phase power delivery for getting that juicy 5.3ghz all core speed.)
    Kraken x63 is pretty much the biggest AIO(280mm) that can be fitted in the case, required to cool that abomination.
    850w PSU should have a nice power ceiling above theoretical maximums.
    Need advice on display, RAM and GPU !
    Looking into 1080p @ 165/240hz, preferably HDR.
    Could use any other suggestions as well :notworthy:
     
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    This is the way.
     
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  6. Kunal Shrivastava

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    images.jpeg
     
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  8. Kunal Shrivastava

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    I think because it would still not achieve this level of absolute immersion:

     
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  9. JRE84

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    ROTFLMGDAO

    HAHAHA

    nice dude, so funny and i think you are right its just not as immersive lol.....bizzaro world


    actually i had to come back and say man you are a genius or something...that was really funny
     
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    It's not even stable...

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...discussion-lounge.835425/page-2#post-11081331

     
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    yes but 500-800 points lower???why are you guys arguing this.....2080ti scores 14100 he scores at least 13300...we are in the ten thousands and talking a 4 percent difference which is less than 1fps after 30 fps


    the lowest 2080ti is 13744 fsg so hes getting higher yet you wont compare??nbr needs and deserves more than this
     
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    so if i get 30 fps in a game and you get 31 fps my sytem is not up too snuff? do you realize how dumb it can sound


    as for the numbers it was a gross underexageration....4 percent of 30 is 1.2 i believe...now i know the game at 30 is unplayable but at 31.2fps is completely smooth and unreal...but i just can't imagine playing a game at 30fps vs 31fps... like how on earth do i prove a point without insulting your intelligence..

    huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge difference



    what i think is i called correctly a 2080ti and you guys argued that and when it released it was indeed a 2080ti level......right again only been 4 years of correct predictions...lol

     
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    You gotta warn a brother before posting stuff like that. Everything hurts bow from laughing. Lmao
     
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    oh i know i don't normally laugh but it got me
     
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    With my stable game settings my timespy GPU score is about 13,600. So even with my 24/7 stable clocks this 3080 notebook GPU is a beast.
     
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    What's your stock score? Around 12.6K?
     
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    Yes stock is 12.6k on the old bios, and about 12.8k on the new bios. New bios definitely boosted it a little
     
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    12.8K, nice.

    The only stock run I have saved is this one. The GT76 is paying the 5-10% Optimus tax of course.

    Would you mind doing a stock run with Optimus enabled? I'm curious how much a a penalty is paid.
     
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    Yes I'll do that. I have not tried Optimus yet with the GE76 so I'm interested as well.
     
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    Nice seing the graphics is stable right below stock 2080Ti

    Edit. Could you laso post 3DM Port Royal scores as well. Thanks.
     
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    100points below a 2080ti well the lowest scoring one...still super impressive

    wonder if nvidia is going to release a 3080ti notebook version this generation
     
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    Doubtful, last gen all we got was the rtx 6000 and I think it was only for the Asus ProArt system

    Would be pleasantly surprised if so though
     
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    i think they were testing the waters with the rtx6000 but this gen my gut says it's incoming
     
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    Who knows lol, no idea if that ProArt laptop sold well or even really what impressions people have it or anyone that actually has it for that matter.

    Given the margins people are making on GPU's right now it wouldnt surprise me if nvidia didnt see the need for it since people are paying it on the DT side already, I probably could never afford such a product but it would be interesting to see especially if it was more than a paper tiger.
     
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    The Clevo X170 could probably handle a 250-300 watt GPU given how stupidly cool GPUs run in it. Its vapor chamber works wonders. I'd say if there is an RTX 3080 Ti notebook GPU, it'd be going in the X170.
     
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    yeah I remember the old alienware laptops handling a sli setup so yeah 3080ti is totally possible butI wonder how the 3080 will perform
     
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    Nvidia will never bring a 3080ti to notebooks. That's what the 3080 super will be next year. Also, they are killing AMD in the notebook sector so they literally have nothing to worry about....for now.
     
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    never say never, there is a big gap between desktop and laptop this time around so yes it is possible
     
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    For Nvidia to be killing AMD in the notebook sector AMD would need to be alive in the first place lol. They will likely follow the same strategy as they had for desktops, CPU's first (as they have higher profit margins anyways) to be followed up with competitive GPU's later.

    Only thing AMD has right now is a cut down RX 5700 which is not insignificant but definitely not enough for it to be the talk of the town. They are likely the leftovers that didnt make the cut for desktop use but valuable enough to repurpose.
     
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    AMD was pretty much dead in the notebook CPU sector until last year and now they're dominating. If they continue to do so this year and most likely they will they could start focusing on improving their Notebook GPUs next but i doubt they'll take Nvidia's crown but be at least competitive somewhat
     
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    It seems you have forgot the huge minor upgrade Nvidia offered with the amazing Super over 2080 Mobile :D Could it happen again? :)
     
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    lol yeah the super up grade I think they will have a 3080ti because of the super gap.....big chance of just the super though
     
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    NVIDIA is now requiring their laptop partners to specify TGP for consumers, so that's good. The 80W 3070 is a terrible value. They should have called it RTX 3060 Ti and left the 3070 nomenclature to 100W+ configurations.
     
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    imagine if you bought a 3080 ge76 laptop...you would be good to go for 8 years....i have a 1060 and its quite old and I game at 30fps on 3rd person and 60 for fps and never have to go below 30fps locked on high....too give you an idea a 980m can score higher than a 1060 and is over 5 years old
     
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    Are you trying to be a cool kid or something? My 3dfx Voodoo is still going strong after 25 years! ;)
     
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    I looked into the 980m besting a 1060 and while it did beat a 1060 it also blew the card shortly after after running synthetics, no idea on gaming though...
     
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    i think its amazing how a 980m can still do med/high 1080p
     
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    a 1060 overclocked does push frames much higher... but with a 980m overclocking can have a big impact..

    also a 970m can score 10k fsg and thats roughly what i get stock...12k ocd
     
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    They should just force it into the product name itself.

    RTX 3070M-80
    RTX 3070M-90
    RTX 3080M-80
    RTX 3080M-150

    I know it's just the enthusiasts that really care and most consumers will just play their games fine none the wiser because they don't want to think about these things. Probably how it looks, how heavy it is and things like how good the display is are more important to users at a larger scale. But at least just differentiate the branding between desktop and notebook. I would NEVER in a million years expect a 3070 in a laptop to approach a 3070 desktop card, but I'm not the normal everyday consumer that just wants to play games and doesn't dig into the minutiae and low-level details.
     
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    in some cases the 3080m tops a 3070 desktop....that is stock desktop
     
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    That's pretty amazing if someone can buy new and keep a laptop for 8+ years, only way an x80 system is really worth it from a yearly cost pov. If only they were like collectors items that actually go up in price lol

    My old 980m never oc'd at all but didn't last long, thankfully it was $100 from someone who couldn't figure out how to do inf modding etc, my guess lol FSG was 9300. It did play my sort of games just fine at med settings, newer stuff was med/low mix usually for close to 60, depends on the game of course. What would really be nice is the full 980 in the laptop but that's like finding a unicorn.
     
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    idk i think the 1060 is impressive....and i was a hair away from buying a 2070m laptop but just don't need the extra power....im not paying another 1700 for 4 games
     
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    2070 can take you places for sure but if the 1060 is sufficing then allocate the funds elsewhere or just sit on it until something really catches your fancy
     
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    i do 30fps gaming in third person games...and most games i play are tp
     
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    I couldnt do 30fps, but even when I had the 1070 most titles were easily past the 120hz threshold that I like to have. Though I dont play the "latest titles" too often
     
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    i have like 300 games to play and 90 percent of them are AAA games...just cant push my self to play them
     
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    Yeah I am happy to be out of that phase lol

    I generally wait 3-4 weeks and if my friends are still playing then maybe its worth the look otherwise I dont bother anymore. Too many times I buy a game to be a part of the group and then they hate the game because of some function that isnt up to par, continue to play anyways while raging the whole time. Game is supposed to be fun, if it doesnt look to be fun then why bother?
     
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    That's all you get? I would think you would get over that in most games and well optimized games engines like doom engine, decima, fox, apex engine, gta and others. I mean I got almost 60fps on RDR2 at medium mixed with low settings on a 980m. In well optimized games at least 50fps.
    On a 1650m I got around 45 avg on the performance setting in rdr2.

    Maybe dial back AA settings etc You didn't buy that 1060 system new though so it wouldn't be a big deal to upgrade afa cost, maybe a used 1070 or 2060/1660ti system?
     
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