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    Hp's DV7tqe's 6770m GDDR5 - vs - Dell Xps 17's GT 555m GDDR3??

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Riddhy916, Mar 21, 2011.

  1. Botsu

    Botsu Notebook Evangelist

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    Get your HP dv6 and don't worry about it, the Radeon 6770M looks better from every angle. Maybe the GT 555M that comes with a 192bit is about equal but the former consumes less. I don't know any 15" notebooks that have the 555M.
     
  2. clokesta

    clokesta Notebook Consultant

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    (Except actual viewing angles :))

    That is the direction I have been leaning anyway, from my understanding there is a negligible difference between the two with the exception of power consumption in favor of the 6770. The HP costs less, looks better, and weighs less. It doesn't seem to be worth the cost difference for the performance difference. Thanks for you input. Anyone disagree? (cost is the most important IMO)
     
  3. midzi

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    costs less - agree
    looks better - individual preferences
    weighs less - agree
     
  4. Kevin

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    The HP is also an HP. Wait.. is that a positive or negative?
     
  5. mostwanted115

    mostwanted115 Notebook Consultant

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    hows the cooling on this machine?

    i had some issues with cooling on my DV 6000 with the nvidia 8400M GS; had to keep the (positioned at the bottom left !!) fans ventilated to avoid over heating.

    Plus, I had issues with the stock toshiba HD, i replaced it with a samsung and all is well now.
     
  6. clokesta

    clokesta Notebook Consultant

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    HP a positive, who knows, I may never even see this laptop at the current pace. :) I do like dell pPCs better (based on my past experience with them), but the thinner design and lighter weight is a big plus.
     
  7. Riddhy916

    Riddhy916 Notebook Deity

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  8. Botsu

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    I hate 3dmark06 and I hate it even more when they don't disclose the settings (mainly display resolution). Anyway beats the 6750M by quite a large margin, I don't know if the higher clocks of the 6770M can fully compensate.
     
  9. City Pig

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    I think you might want to click on the MBP in those charts. ;)
     
  10. stevenxowens792

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    I will say it again.. 3dmark06 offers no value anymore. Vantage or 3dmark11.

    StevenX
     
  11. LLStarks

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    Even if the Lenovo Y470/Y570 (which use different variants of the 555M) are priced at around $950 or less, the dv6t SE/QE with the 6770M is still the better deal even before coupons.
     
  12. Riddhy916

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    whats the max core oc clocks while running games? 850? without artifacts and heats? can evgas precision tool be used in amd card to clock it further?
     
  13. Meaker@Sager

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    Depends on the chip.
     
  14. DKizzy

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    I just ordered a dv6tqe and it had an option for 2GB 6770m. I went with the 1920x1080 screen so do you think that will keep the FPS from dropping at the higher resolution? Getting an i7, 640gb 7200rpm drive, and 2GB 6770M with a 1920x1080 screen for $1029 was just too good to pass up for me (30% coupon worked and knocked off $412!). Just wondering if anyone has played with the 2GB variant.
     
  15. Botsu

    Botsu Notebook Evangelist

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    No not at all.

    Already dealt with on a dedicated thread. More than 1gb in mid-range/upper mid-range GPUs is a perfectly useless feature designed to rip more $ from the ignorant average consumer. Desktop high-end GPUs that utterly destroy any mobile GPU don't even have that much memory except for a few AMD products. Even for these chips 2gb shows benefit only at high res with most settings on high/ultra in a few specific very demanding games, a situation you'll never, ever encounter on your ridiculous (by desktop standards) mobile chip.
     
  16. DKizzy

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    It was $50 to upgrade which wasn't too bad. I was not concerned with gaining more frames because I knew I wouldn't, I was just hoping the additional memory would maintain what the 6770 typically produces on the settings that most users bench at. I know that if I go on high/ultra high the fps will obviously drop. My hope was at the medium to high settings the additional memory for the 1920x1080 would just maintain what others are seeing on the lower resolution which I believe is 1366x720.
     
  17. obscurehero

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    It actually was only $35 to upgrade as you got 30% off of upgrades too! :)

    Now it doesn't hurt as bad when you realized your 2GB really wasn't that great of an upgrade. At least I spent $35 for pointless bragging rights... I just need to make sure I only brag around people that dont' know what I'm talking about...as those who do....will laugh. :D
     
  18. Botsu

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    It won't, your chip will be in the dumps and you'll be playing in permanent bullet-time long before you can make use of 2gb. You got screwed by HP's marketing, end of the story. Also don't ever say that you paid for 2gb memory to "future proof" your mobile GPU to someone who games on a desktop computer, you'll make him hysterical.
     
  19. DKizzy

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    Heh I'm assuming that is advice because neither of my posts ever mentioned futureproofing, so why you mentioned that is beyond me lol. Oh well $35 for a pointless upgrade it happens. I have seen worse things occur, especially friend bar tabs. Like I said I was just trying to maintain FPS, not gain anything. I wasn't dying to have 2gb of video memory, it was more of a "eh, why not" attitude. I have built several gaming PC's, mobile GPU's are not my forte. Obviously I knew that desktop GPU's tend to mainly have 1gb these days and utilize it well, my concern was because the mGPU was less powerful that maybe it would help the 1920x1080 resolution and the AA keeping the FPS from dipping as said before. Perhaps I'll just make some slide shows to feel better about almost utilizing it lol.
     
  20. Botsu

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    I understand that, sorry for my abrupt tone. What I meant is when your game runs slow as balls, whether you maintain it at a constant 5 fps or 2-4 fps won't matter. This graphic chip is pretty good by mobile standards really but in every situation where you'd actually need 2gb your frame rate will plummet all the same because it's not a matter of how much memory, it's a matter of simply not being powerful enough to display that kind of content.
     
  21. naturelover12321

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    I have a Hp DV6 with i7 2670qm and HD 6770 with 2 gb Video ram.


    My nephew has a Alienware m14x with i7 2730 qm ( not sure about the number, but its i7 27xx and its quad core ) and 3 gb Nvidia GT 555m.


    Who has the better laptop? and is it safe to say that my graphic card is better than his graphic card?

    I know his laptop is more powerfull but also compare the price .

    Me - $899
    Him - $14k
     
  22. naturelover12321

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    I meant $1.4k
     
  23. Jon vMagic

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    no idea... have had a look through this entire thread and there doesn't seem to be any resolution :-S

    btw you just generally pay more for an alienware simply because it's an alienware, I paid less for a 17inch XPS L702x with similar specs

    anyway... if it helps I've overclocked my GT555m, (192bit DDR3 version 144shaders, overclock in sig) and get around p1800 on 3dmark11. Would have been nice if it had GDDR5 but then realistically it seems each of the versions of the GT555M have been gimped somewhat to avoid a simple "overclock slightly and surpass the GTX560M" issue

    if people would like me to run through a bunch of benchmarks I will (would you want them stock or overclocked?)
     
  24. Kevin

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    In terms of gaming performance, the 6770M is slightly faster, but they're basically equal. Your CPUs are way more powerful than the GPUs will ever use, so their differences won't matter.

    He payed $500 extra for the Alienware chassis, but you have the same performance.
     
  25. naturelover12321

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    so is 2760QM significantly better than my 2670qm?

    or is it just a minor difference?


    And he has 8 GB ram, i have 4 GB.

    But 4 GB is more than enough required for games right?
     
  26. m1_1x

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    Yeah youre good with 4gb for a good time running now.

    I can only think of like a few games that have 4gb under their "recommended" requirements
     
  27. Kevin

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    There's a 10% difference, which means zero for gaming.
     
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