I`m upgrading, are you? (GTX 780M review inside)

Meaker

Will an older 2.5" hdd adapter from a 16f3 work with the new 16f4? They changed the connector to accomodate one more sata channel but did the pinout remain the same? That mSATA adapter is not convincing me. It would confine future SSD upgrades to mSATA form factors.
mSATA drives just can't reach normal 2.5" SSD speeds (yet)

 

NDA, sorry I can't reveal that sort of info, I think everyone knows that MSI will be using the 780M by now but that's as far as I can go.

 

Just because your current OCZ drive is working doesn`t mean you might get lucky next time Meaker. OCZ still have horrible ratings on their newest drives. I wouldn`t buy OCZ personally but every man to himself. The 840 Pro is even cheaper and have much better ratings.

OCZ Vector Series VTR1-25SAT3-512G Solid State Drive - Newegg.com
SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD512BW 2.5" 512GB SATA III (SSD) - Newegg.com

 

Availability and pricing was different in the UK when I got it

 

Review of 780M is up

Finally. Lets find out what the GTX 780M can do against the other 2 top GPUs, 7970M and GTX 680M

All games they tested. Benchmarks not included.
http://www.notebookcheck.com/Im-Test-Nvidia-GeForce-GTX-780M-GTX-770M-GTX-765M.93178.0.html

All games they tested. Benchmarks not included.

BioShock Infinite
GTX 780M: 46.6FPS
GTX 680M: 46.6FPS (0%, I call BS)
7970M: 43.7FPS (+6.6%)

SimCity
GTX 780M: 39.9FPS
GTX 680M: 32.1FPS (+24.3%)
7970M: 30.7FPS (+30%)

Tomb Raider
GTX 780M: 65.3FPS
GTX 680M: 32.2FPS (+102%)
7970M: 46FPS (+41.9%)

Crysis 3
GTX 780M: 29.3FPS
GTX 680M: 21.8FPS (+34.4%)
7970M: 20.3FPS (+44.3%)

Dead Space 3
GTX 780M: 144.2 FPS
GTX 680M: 111.1FPS (+29.8%)
7970M: 92.3FPS (+56.2%)

Far Cry 3:
GTX 780M: 30.4FPS
GTX 680M: 23.6FPS (+28.8%)
7970M: 25.4FPS (+19.7%)

Assassin Creed 3
GTX 780M: 42.6FPS
GTX 680M: 34.1FPS (+24.9%)
7970M: 24.7FPS (+72.5%)

Hitman
GTX 780M: 33.8FPS
GTX 680M: 22.6FPS (+49.6%)
7970M: 28.8FPS (+17.4%)

Black Ops 2
GTX 780M: 95.1FPS
GTX 680M: 75.3FPS (+26.3%)
7970M: 75FPS (+26.8FPS)

Need For Speed
GTX 780M: 59.9FPS
GTX 680M: 51.4FPS (+16.5%)
7970M: 48.4FPS (+23.8%)

Medal Of Honor:
GTX 780M: 54.8FPS
GTX 680M: 40.9FPS (+34%)
7970M: 46.2FPS (+18.6%)

Dishonored
GTX 780M: 125FPS
GTX 680M: 115.7FPS (+8%)
7970M: 99.9FPS (+25%)

Fifa 13
GTX 780M: 307.7FPS (lol)
GTX 680M: 256.9FPS (+19.8%)
7970M: 226.6FPS (+35.8%)

Borderlands 2
GTX 780M: 83.3FPS
GTX 680M: 71.1FPS (+17.1%)
7970M: 62.9FPS (+32.4%)

F1 2012
GTX 780M: 100FPS
GTX 680M: 87FPS (+15%)
7970M: Not included

Guild Wars 2
GTX 780M: 41.2FPS
GTX 680M: 31.9FPS (+29.1%)
7970M: 30.6FPS (+34.6%)

Counter Strike
GTX 780M: 194FPS
GTX 680M: 128FPS (+51.6%)
7970M: 153.5FPS (+26.5%)

Sleeping Dogs
GTX 780M: 30.8FPS
GTX 680M: 22.7FPS (+35.7%)
7970M: 28.5FPS (+8%)

Darksiders 2
GTX 780M: 136.9FPS
GTX 680M: 108.8FPS (+25.8%)
7970M: 104.1FPS (+31.5%)

Max Payne 3
GTX 780M: 54.5FPS
GTX 680M: 42.6FPS (+27.9%)
7970M: No data

Dirt Showdown
GTX 780M: 66.4FPS
GTX 680M: 52.9FPS (+25.5%)
7970M: 48.7FPS (+36.3%)

Diablo 3
GTX 780M: 188FPS
GTX 680M: 159.6FPS (+19.8%)
7970M: 100.8FPS (+86.5%)

Risen 2
GTX 780M: 53.8FPS
GTX 680M: 42.2FPS (+27.5%)
7970M: 43.1FPS (+24.8%)

MW3
GTX 780M: 117.3FPS
GTX 680M: 102.8FPS (+14.1%)
7970M: 90.7FPS (+29.3%)

Alan Wake:
GTX 780M: 54.1FPS
GTX 680M: 41.9FPS (+29.1%)
7970M: 44.7FPS (+21%)

TES: Skyrim
GTX 780M: 68.3FPS
GTX 680M: 54.2FPS (+26%)
7970M: 55.6FPS (+22.8%)

Anno 2070
GTX 780M: 72.6FPS
GTX 680M: 51FPS (+42.4%)
7970M: 55.4FPS (+31%)

Battlefield 3:
GTX 780M: 50FPS
GTX 680M: 34.7FPS (+44.1%)
7970M: 34.7FPS (+44.1%)

Total average difference:

GTX 780M is 29.6% faster than GTX 680M

GTX 780M is 32.6% faster than 7970M

Spoiler

GTX 680M: 829.1/28 = 29.6% 7970M: 847.4.4/26 = 32.6

 

I'd like to know what Haswell they were using. Some of those tests are compared to a 680m with a lowly 3610qm, so might be ever so slightly skewed if its a Haswell XM. Of course, it might not be a huge variance, but still, not quite apples to apples in my eyes.

 

Actually here's the calculated values:

 

Agreed, but we at least know now what to expect. It might be worth upgrading afterall, but this depends on how well it overclocks, at least for me. I don't want a card that can barely overclock.

 

I will be doing tests myself between 780m and 680m when I get some time and the new machine. I don't particularly trust notebookcheck for benches hehe.

 

I agree to a point. At least here they describe exactly what systems they're using.

I should have a 780m machine here shortly too. I'm all geared up and ready to roar.

The biggest difference will be how it manages overclocking. Boost 2.0 sounds great and all, but so far it seems to intefere with any amount of overclock.

 

What I would like is for some kind soul to donate me a pair of 780m's so that I can compare/bench in a controlled environment against my 680m's. Donations welcomed LOL

Note: I said donate, not swap my kidneys out to cover the cost.

 

You and me both... you and me both.

 

That's not right (for the 7970m) either. Look at the original source, Cloud included some numbers for the 670mx in the 7970m numbers.

 

Ok, I'll double check the numbers against notebookcheck...

Here you go:

 

I've noticed a huge difference in BF3 with my 780m. It runs buttery smooth all settings set to Ultra on a full server.

 

Ok I`m positive mine is correct now. Checked, double checked, tripple checked.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/gaming-software-graphics-cards/718021-i-m-upgrading-you-gtx-780m-review-inside-61.html#post9216441

 

I double, triple checked and 67.7 x 1.2585 = 85.2, so 25.85% it is!

F1 and Max Payne 3 don't have any 7970m data.

In any case it's 25-30% faster than stock. Question is how far can it overclock on stock voltage?

 

can we buy this yet!?

 

When you sum up all percentages for each gpu and divide them by the number of games tested (680m - 28 games, 7970m - 26 games) you come up with 29.6% for the 680m and 32.5% for the 7970m. We should redo it once full OC potential is reached for the 780m
Difference won't be much (I estimate around 15-16% average) but we'll se some great fps numbers from demanding games
Anyway let's stop arguing who's got the bigger guns. It's not beneficial for neither party

 

I think the half dozen or so threads started by Cloudfire need to be merged.

 

Agreed HTWingNut. One thread for GTX 780M specifically and one for GTX 700M series discussion perhaps?

Anyhow, here is a review of a Behemoth of a notebook with GTX 780M SLI.

Panther 5D. LOL what a beast


GTX780M SLI

 

CPU clock target set. 4.9ghz benching mode...

 

ZOMG you got yours?

 

Does that have a desktop CPU?

 

Not yet...

 

Yeah, 3970X.
Probably creates quite a bit of heat so no wonder its so fat

 

Wait, that's remarkably like the NP9570 I reviewed... same thing, just looked different from that image.

Have fun Meaker overclocking to 4.9GHz. I could barely manage 4GHz with the stock cooling.

 

Dropping by after I saw msi updated their website with the latest models. http://www.msi.com/product/nb/#/?sk=Gaming Series

 

Who said anything about that clevo lol, look at the time stamp, it just happened to be there.

 

Here is MSI`s wonderful illustration about their new overclocking system that use the PSU as well as the battery.

 

I want glowing streams of awesome to envelope around me when I am playing games!


I wonder how good it will actually work.

 

want to compare gtx 780m sli @ 3970x (4.9ghz) vs 780m sli at (3610qm/4700mq).....will cpu clocks have some difference this time??

 

Here is GTX 780M SLI with 4700MQ

Here is GTX 780M SLI with 3970X

You be the judge

 

I am definitely upgrading... from my current laptop, which is an Acer. Definitely gonna get the GT70 2OD when it comes out!

 

thanks for hunting cloudfire ....waiting for game benchies actually ++ rep

 

I'll probably skip Haswell, but I can't resist the lure of the 780M.

 

thank you but my question was wich would be the best price wise for gaming and i need it to last a while since i probobaly will not be able to upgrade for altleast 4 years i need it to last as least as long as the xbone ps4 and if i go with the 780m will i need to upgrade my proccesor for it from the i7 3630qm by the way does any one know when alienware will get these i would prefer getting it through them even if it cost more sorry if this is really nooby i just swapped over from consoles

 

here is exactly what I think about people not designing sufficient psu and claiming its a feature

 

I agree. This still strikes me as odd. They don't give you a large enough power supply so we tout it as a feature to destroy your battery. mmmkay. If it can really not pull more than 20-25W off battery peak anyhow, then why not just offer a larger PSU? It makes ZERO sense.

 

if i buy a 780 for my p150em am i going to have to do anything to the bios of my lappy?

 

Does anyone have them yet ?? I have modded 680m,s and am interested to see how the 780m,s would fare.. ? think my 680m,s would win but if you mod the 780m,s then different story.. lol

 

This is why MSI will win the single card competition this year. Samsung FC03, rated for 1500mhz as opposed to the 1250mhz of the other ones we have seen.

This means all MSI cards should reach 1700-1750mhz memory clocks and the other brands will get to 1450-1500.

 

Can i use a MSI GTX 780m in M17xR4???

 

I always forget which way round it is, I know you can use alienware cards in an MSI machine....

 

wow well that explains why we saw this memory overclock earlier from a GT70. It ran at 1750MHz.
Well done MSI. Another good point why I might buy MSI this time too

 

Oh cloud, that's only the start.... trust me

 

I can`t wait to see what you are able to do with this beast. After all, you managed to OC the 680M the most in this forum if I remember correctly.

BTW, is that a picture you have taken? You have 780M in your possession right now?

 

From the workshop , mine is going to have to make its way across the ocean

 

GPU clock at 1200MHz!? How much voltage does that require and what temps, holy cow.

And I think Meaker's was fastest in the world actually, at least at one point. I can't wait to see what Meaker can do, and see a real pro at work! And you can finally reveal the MSI secret about the vRAM.

 

That was likely just moving the slider, but the ram is going to be about right since that is what the 690 could do.

For now the 780M will rule the roost in 3dmark firestrike extreme but may have to wait for some core tweaking for 11 P scores since they dont care about memory clocks.