The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
← Previous pageNext page →

    I`m upgrading, are you? (GTX 780M review inside)

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Cloudfire, May 8, 2013.

  1. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

    Reputations:
    7,279
    Messages:
    10,304
    Likes Received:
    2,878
    Trophy Points:
    581
    I`m thinking he used a custom vbios
     
  2. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Potato

    Reputations:
    21,580
    Messages:
    35,370
    Likes Received:
    9,878
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Obviously a modded vBIOS, but the real question is if it can run at those speeds and how much voltage, power, and extra cooling required.
     
  3. kolias

    kolias Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    251
    Messages:
    629
    Likes Received:
    88
    Trophy Points:
    41
    Nice finding!!!well done!!!
    The MSI cards are compatible with CLEVO?? :confused:
    edit: I just saw the CLEVO version here:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/ALIENWARE-M...999?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item19dd2b60ef
    it's FC04 chips which mean no good OC??
     
  4. J.Dre

    J.Dre Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    3,700
    Messages:
    8,323
    Likes Received:
    3,820
    Trophy Points:
    431
    That paste job looks like a bird took a dump on your card, no offense. :D
     
  5. AMRAAM_Missiles

    AMRAAM_Missiles Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    102
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    31
    I was about to say the same thing, you are just faster... lol.
    But man, i am on the fence as well, my 675M will be underpowered when the new games this years are coming out,i am seriously thinking about the 780M.
    But then again. it depends on how Clevo/Sager going to treat customer, either they will make it available to my NP9170/P170EM or not.
    Because there is no guarantee that there will be a compatible heatsink and also Official vBIOS...
    I will wait...
     
  6. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Potato

    Reputations:
    21,580
    Messages:
    35,370
    Likes Received:
    9,878
    Trophy Points:
    931
  7. ObserverJLin

    ObserverJLin Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    77
    Messages:
    382
    Likes Received:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Just found a MSI GT70 with 780m & 4930MX overview. Video is over 1 hour MSI GT70
     
  8. Mr Najsman

    Mr Najsman Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    600
    Messages:
    931
    Likes Received:
    697
    Trophy Points:
    106
    Sweclockers review of MSI GT70 with 780m and 4930XM.
    That cpu is just crazy.. Price of review sample: 4200€
     
  9. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

    Reputations:
    7,279
    Messages:
    10,304
    Likes Received:
    2,878
    Trophy Points:
    581
    Nice overclock. Gained about 20% extra performance :D

    Baseclock/turboclock/GPUBoostclock

    Stock: 771MHz/797MHz/849MHz and 1250MHz for the VRAM
    Overclock: 876MHz/902MHz/954MHz and 1600MHz for the VRAM
     
  10. ObserverJLin

    ObserverJLin Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    77
    Messages:
    382
    Likes Received:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    31
  11. J.Dre

    J.Dre Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    3,700
    Messages:
    8,323
    Likes Received:
    3,820
    Trophy Points:
    431
  12. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

    Reputations:
    7,279
    Messages:
    10,304
    Likes Received:
    2,878
    Trophy Points:
    581
    Anandtech will post GTX 780M review on Monday.

    Just to let people know :)
     
  13. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Potato

    Reputations:
    21,580
    Messages:
    35,370
    Likes Received:
    9,878
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Nice laptop. Looks like MSI did the right thing including the faster vRAM. Cooling temps were pretty incredible too. Looking forward to an in depth review of the unit.
     
  14. sponge_gto

    sponge_gto Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    885
    Messages:
    872
    Likes Received:
    307
    Trophy Points:
    76
    It's a little embarrassing that supposedly reputable reviewers "forget" to disable GPU Physx, resulting in the ridiculous CPU score in Vantage :eek:
     
  15. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Potato

    Reputations:
    21,580
    Messages:
    35,370
    Likes Received:
    9,878
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Vantage is a worthless benchmark anyhow at this point. Too much influence by CPU.
     
  16. Mr Najsman

    Mr Najsman Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    600
    Messages:
    931
    Likes Received:
    697
    Trophy Points:
    106
    Just curious, anything you feel is missing in Sweclockers review?

    Edit: Found two myself. They dont mention gpu under Upgrade possibilities and they only measure temperature on the outside, not the gpu.
     
  17. D2 Ultima

    D2 Ultima Livestreaming Master

    Reputations:
    4,335
    Messages:
    11,803
    Likes Received:
    9,751
    Trophy Points:
    931
    I'm sad, I see no 120Hz screen option for the new models. I reallllly wanted that screen.
     
  18. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

    Reputations:
    7,279
    Messages:
    10,304
    Likes Received:
    2,878
    Trophy Points:
    581
    I think Asus G750 will have that. :)
    Maybe Alienware too
     
  19. Mr Najsman

    Mr Najsman Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    600
    Messages:
    931
    Likes Received:
    697
    Trophy Points:
    106
    As I brought it up I will post Sweclockers argument. They dont comment the upgrade possibilities for gpus in laptops since the majority of their community are desktop users and of the laptop users only a minority are interested of upgrading. (And we are probably all on NBR).
    They also think some programs show the wrong temperature for gpu and cpu, especially in laptops. Any thoughts on that?
     
  20. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Potato

    Reputations:
    21,580
    Messages:
    35,370
    Likes Received:
    9,878
    Trophy Points:
    931
    First of all game benchmarks are sparse and nothing really indicative of GPU performance. Civ 5 and Skyrim are CPU bound and Skyrim is really limited to 60FPS anyhow because game events are timed to work with a vsync environment. Battlefield 3 single player performance is a moot point, because multiplayer is so much more intensive. You can play BF3 SP campaign on a dual core and GT 620m where it won't manage 20FPS in multiplayer.

    There is no indication of GPU temperatures or power draw either, and no comparison to 680m or 580m which is what most users want to see. Not to mention no testing or comment about the "battery boost" feature.
     
  21. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

    Reputations:
    9,431
    Messages:
    58,194
    Likes Received:
    17,902
    Trophy Points:
    931
    The meaker edition final specs.

    Codename: Kali 5
    16f4 barebone with blue steelseries keyboard
    1920x1080 matte display
    4930xm
    16gb samsung 30nm
    512gb ocz vector
    Gtx780m
    Killer 1202 wireless
    Custom 240w slim brick
     
  22. VSSS

    VSSS Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    133
    Messages:
    245
    Likes Received:
    17
    Trophy Points:
    31
    AMD 8970M is 3% faster than nVidia 780M ?

    8970M and 7970M have similar specifications :thumbsup:
     
    Last edited by a moderator: May 12, 2015
  23. felix3650

    felix3650 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    832
    Messages:
    631
    Likes Received:
    224
    Trophy Points:
    56
    The Vector in the second slot ;)
    Where did you find those 30nm RAM?
    4930MX ~ 95% of i7-4770K :D
    Nice machine!!
     
  24. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

    Reputations:
    9,431
    Messages:
    58,194
    Likes Received:
    17,902
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Special imports a while ago, hoping maybe 2400 cl12 if im lucky.

    No super raid adapter in mine, if I want more space or speed ill get a second vector. ;)
     
  25. Prolixious

    Prolixious Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    252
    Messages:
    814
    Likes Received:
    37
    Trophy Points:
    41
    Which other ones have you seen?
     
  26. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Potato

    Reputations:
    21,580
    Messages:
    35,370
    Likes Received:
    9,878
    Trophy Points:
    931
    When does it arrive? BRING IT!
     
  27. King of Interns

    King of Interns Simply a laptop enthusiast

    Reputations:
    1,329
    Messages:
    5,418
    Likes Received:
    1,096
    Trophy Points:
    331
    That is a sick specification Meaker!! Make us all jealous why don't you :D
     
  28. kolias

    kolias Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    251
    Messages:
    629
    Likes Received:
    88
    Trophy Points:
    41
    Well this lap its like the new MSI GT70 2 OD??and the same features?
    If yes it's an interesting idea for my next lapy.... :)
    edit:i'm tired with CLEVO(compatible problems!!)
     
  29. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

    Reputations:
    7,279
    Messages:
    10,304
    Likes Received:
    2,878
    Trophy Points:
    581
    $1000 CPU Meaker, you`re crazy :p

    @kolias: Its a GT60 barebone if I`m not mistaken. You don`t have the MSI logo on the lid or have multi colour keyboard. Only blue light. And the keys for the touchpad is slightly different than the MSI model.
     
  30. IKAS V

    IKAS V Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    1,073
    Messages:
    6,171
    Likes Received:
    535
    Trophy Points:
    281
    Any pics of this new barebones model?
    Don't care of multi colored backlit keys as long as it's backlit, the one thing I don't like about the new MS GT60 is the very shiny single click bar on the touchpad.It's minor but thought they could at least have seperate left and right click pads.
    Any idea when it's out ?
    @ Meaker those specs are simply awesome.
     
  31. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

    Reputations:
    9,431
    Messages:
    58,194
    Likes Received:
    17,902
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Welp, my buyer pulled out for my old system so I am going to have to drop the CPU to a 4800MQ. :(
     
  32. IKAS V

    IKAS V Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    1,073
    Messages:
    6,171
    Likes Received:
    535
    Trophy Points:
    281
    Is this the new barebones model?
    image.jpg
     
  33. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

    Reputations:
    9,431
    Messages:
    58,194
    Likes Received:
    17,902
    Trophy Points:
    931
    We have the photos up now but yes that's it.
     
  34. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

    Reputations:
    7,279
    Messages:
    10,304
    Likes Received:
    2,878
    Trophy Points:
    581
  35. itsjustme84

    itsjustme84 Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    140
    Messages:
    76
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    I have a 485m and it plays 99 percent of all games 1080p and high settings. why are you guys so excited about the 780m? does ultra really look that much better, enough to justify spending 2000. granted im assuming your not all rich as some seem to be.
     
  36. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

    Reputations:
    9,368
    Messages:
    6,297
    Likes Received:
    16,485
    Trophy Points:
    681
    With an MX CPU & 780M (Meaker OC/OV Edition) you would require a bit more than a 240W PSU.
     
  37. kolias

    kolias Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    251
    Messages:
    629
    Likes Received:
    88
    Trophy Points:
    41
  38. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

    Reputations:
    7,279
    Messages:
    10,304
    Likes Received:
    2,878
    Trophy Points:
    581
    Thats the 17" Barebone model of GT70 (OD). Same specs and properties as GT60 barebone only bigger screen :)
     
  39. kolias

    kolias Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    251
    Messages:
    629
    Likes Received:
    88
    Trophy Points:
    41
    now I got it....cloud :D
     
  40. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

    Reputations:
    7,279
    Messages:
    10,304
    Likes Received:
    2,878
    Trophy Points:
    581
    Yeah its a pretty good price. No doubt about that :D
     
  41. kolias

    kolias Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    251
    Messages:
    629
    Likes Received:
    88
    Trophy Points:
    41
  42. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

    Reputations:
    9,431
    Messages:
    58,194
    Likes Received:
    17,902
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Yeah that's the one :)

    Now I just have figure out how to overclock the 4800mq ;)
     
  43. kolias

    kolias Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    251
    Messages:
    629
    Likes Received:
    88
    Trophy Points:
    41
    is there any way the 4700mq can be oc?
     
  44. daveh98

    daveh98 P4P King

    Reputations:
    1,075
    Messages:
    1,500
    Likes Received:
    145
    Trophy Points:
    81
    I have a 360 that plays BF3, Crysis 3 and the other ports almost just as well as people that got a gaming notebook with a 485m two years ago for $2000.00. I don't understand why people spend that much money on a laptop? (see what I did there)

    I think you came into the wrong thread trying to talk about why people are excited about new technology and computers coming out. After all, this is a gaming enthusiast forum. Haswell+780m is definitely something to be excited about. The 485m you got two years ago (I read your other thread) was NOT cheap and was ridiculously expensive at the time. So your notebook is long in the tooth and you post a thread asking advice from the very enthusiasts you are somewhat talking down to as if we shouldn't be bothered by visual fidelity differences between high and Ultra? You said 720p is fine in your thread. Great. So technology is not that big of deal for you. I see differences between High and Ultra. I definitely see a difference between 720p and 1080p. I definitely like the bleeding edge of technology and I am more than willing to pay for it. My sig has my specs and while I could wait until Maxwell, I don't have a "wait" mentality as it's about enjoying the games now and buying the best you can afford....as you clearly did 2 years ago with your 485m purchase.
     
  45. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

    Reputations:
    1,577
    Messages:
    3,845
    Likes Received:
    1,239
    Trophy Points:
    231
    Holding the G prior powering-up doesn't help?
     
  46. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Potato

    Reputations:
    21,580
    Messages:
    35,370
    Likes Received:
    9,878
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Technology moves... fast, and unfortunately so do prices. But if you want to game you gotta pay. Paying $2000 for a laptop with top end video card at the start of its cycle should garner you a solid 3 years gaming. Personally I almost never opt for Ultra settings even if my machine can handle it because it just doesn't make that much of a difference, and I'd rather be running at 50-70FPS than 40-50FPS.
     
  47. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

    Reputations:
    9,431
    Messages:
    58,194
    Likes Received:
    17,902
    Trophy Points:
    931
    No, but adjusting the base clock ratio might.... If it does not brick the machine.
     
  48. Prolixious

    Prolixious Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    252
    Messages:
    814
    Likes Received:
    37
    Trophy Points:
    41
    The new GT70 doesn't support XTU and BIOS overclocking?

    Also,

    Which other modules have you seen?
     
  49. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

    Reputations:
    9,431
    Messages:
    58,194
    Likes Received:
    17,902
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Well the dell ones on ebay and the clevo es ones.

    Out of the box no, msi has no cpu oc support.
     
  50. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

    Reputations:
    7,279
    Messages:
    10,304
    Likes Received:
    2,878
    Trophy Points:
    581
    Wrong :)

     
← Previous pageNext page →