Intel X3100 users rejoice! It's finally here! New Pre-Beta Drivers

I forgot that Software T&L is faster than Hardware T&L for 3dmark01 SE and the default configuration for 3dmark01SE is hardware (and the 15.6+ drivers enable hardware T&L), so I just ran another s/w benchmark with 15.7:

Driver 3dmarks
15.4.3 (1283) 5562
15.7 (1364) s/w 3640
15.7 (1364) h/w 3523



the DX8 s/w performance in 15.6+ is quite a bit better than 15.6+ h/w in some tests (specifically game test 1), but there is still a big overall decrease compared with 15.4 drivers

 

Hi guys. Next week i will buy a notebook. Well i am planning i will buy an acer aspire 5720 with X3100, but i am not sure i can play with the new games: need for speed: pro street, juiced 2, crysis. So my question is: intel x3100 is able to run these new games ? Thx for your answers.

 

Not even close.

You will need the card in my signature to play Crysis.

 

here are a list of games the X3000 can run:
http://support.intel.com/support/graphics/intelg965/sb/cs-023018.htm
and what the X3100 can run (mobile variant of X3000):
http://support.intel.com/support/graphics/intelgm965/sb/CS-026146.htm

 

Thank you so much, in the other notebook: LG has NVidia 8400. It is better than x3100 for gaming? Intel will upgrade their driver for DirectX 10 or Shader Model 3.0, or is it completed?

 

IMO it doesn't matter what shader model they support, if the GPU doesn't have enough horsepower to run the games that have those shaders.

Think about it. Say they support DX10 - great, but if the game runs like a slideshow what's the point?

 

thx for your answers. I think i will buy a geforce instead of x3100, it is better for gaming. Thx again

 

the purpose of gettin a notebook with X3100 is just for the normal routine kind of folks not for those who want extreme gaming. X3100 is fine if you are on a tight budget but don't guarantee that it'll run the most recent games. Games from '04 to below are fine.

 

No answer from Intel yet.. But i understood there is not HT&L, or it's dissabled.
In intel's forums they just say "HT&L is not working yet" it's supposed to be fix with the 14.31, but there is not.
Not when 3Dmark and other programs warn me about that issue.

So i guess there is nothing to do with Intel, they just don't care about the costumers, as long as we buy they branch-new-not-working graphics cards.

However, there is not point to disscuss its performance if it doesn't work in Xp.. and in vista is just a funny joke.

 

not this again...

 

andu it does work it's just crap for games, some programs are recognised and forced to run in software mode as it's faster, rename the EXE to anything and you stop it forcing program specific settings (3dmark '06 is one example,it'll run in hardware mode if renamed).
things might get faster one day, it's just not worth holding breath over, and it's never likely to make crysis worth playing, but it's still an big leap for integrated chips for a business machine.

If they improve ogl support then it'll even be ok for media production (eg maya PLE fullscreen viewport is still cut off badly on the right when bigger than 640x480ish, or maximised it gets as bad as cut in half)

 

Intel simply does not care as most consumers have no choice. There will never be good drivers for the x3100 as Intel is working on next gen hardware coming out in 2008.

 

...which it has been claimed a few times is an evolution of the current tech and will share the driver base so if it's fixed for that it'll be fixed for the x3100

 

Yes that's right. GMA X3000 is the base architecture for more future GMA X3100, the upcoming GMA X3500, and the next generation X4500. If they flop on the drivers, they'll flop for next 4-5 years.

Andu, stop posting BS. Maybe you are just trolling??

 

where can i get the 15.4 drivers? can they still be found on the net somewhere? thanks

 

http://www.opendrivers.com/categorycompany/12/172/display-and-video-intel-free-driver-download.html
download #12, hope that helps

 

thanks going to try them out

 

no problem, let us know how it goes

 

With these new drivers, will it be possible to play Eve Online with Premium graphics?

 

@DamnYou

Not with the last WinXp drivers.

 

What about Vista drivers?

 

I'm going to test the "old" 15.4 drivers in a few minutes.

I also did a few benchmarks with company of heroes using the built in performance test. Vista held up surprisingly well compared to XP (using software mode). Tested with 15.7.

WinXP Hardware - Average FPS: 26.5
WinXP Software - Average FPS: 26.6
Vista Hardware - Did not run
Vista Software - Average FPS: 26.6

I can almost conclude that hardware mode is broken for both Vista and XP. That, or the video card is just not capable of handling such a game. I'm beginning to think however, that it is the former. For example, cranking up the texture settings and model detail setting did not put a hit on the FPS, which means there's a bottleneck somewhere, presumably the video card drivers, or quite possibly the processor. I'll be back in 25-30 minutes with the 15.4


Update: The 15.4 drivers yielded absolutely no performance benefit, and maintained an average of 26.5FPS.

 

if you have time, try the 15.4.3 drivers, I've found they were the best of the 15.4 series
http://www.opendrivers.com/categorycompany/12/172/display-and-video-intel-free-driver-download.html
Download #40

 

In my case, i've tried in Dungeon siege II, and it's reports:

WinXp: 24Fps
Vista: 15Fps

I couldn't try in hdw mode, that game isn't in the windows registrity..

Xp drivers an vista were the latest. Downloaded from intel's web site.

PD: i've read somewhere that the Hdw driver isn't working yet...

 

Hardware shaders dont seem to be supported on either the latest XP or Vista drivers.

We just have to hope the new year brings us something good.

 

vista links dont work, ahhh lol ?

 

I have updated the first post of the thread, try now

 

I actually think 15.7 unleashed H/W vertex shaders for my HL2 in Vista

I tried forcing S/W mode with the regedit trick
two things i noticed:
- the video stress test does no truth in game value (disabling H/W gives me better fps in stress test)
- BUT in game situation S/W gave me ~12 fps (consistently doesn't matter what the situation is), H/W gave me ~ 16 - 30

another thing, I remember there being talk about video bios driver
i apprantly have 1471

 

did you notice any performance difference from 15.4.x drivers compared with 15.6+ drivers?

 

as a matter of fact yes

the 15.4.x performance was the same as disabling hardware mode

 

WOW I CAN'T BELIEVE IT, I FINALLY WAS ABLE TO GET THE 15.6+ DRIVERS TO WORK AS WELL AS 15.4.X (WITH S/W T&L)!!!

For some reason, even though I set 3dmark2001se to run in software mode, i guess it still ran in hardware mode anyways. But when using the trick posted here:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=2763952&postcount=16

I was finally able to run 3dmark2001se in software mode with the 15.7 drivers and I'm happy to report that they run just as well as the 15.4.x drivers (if not slightly faster)! now if only Intel could get the h/w t&l drivers to work faster than the s/w t&l so that we can run games faster than the gma 950 in older games (such as DirectX 8 games)...

 

I Looked in the registry and i had Age of Empires 3 in software mode, and i put it on 0 so it was on hardware and guess what the game runs faster even though it runs with a little bugs.

 

yep, other users have reported that as well. it seems that the max framerate is higher on software, however the minimum framerate is much higher on hardware (especially during intense ship battles).

 

So in what should i leave the game on, in Software or Hardware?

 

Ruly do you notice a difference in the lighting and textures between SW and HW mode?

 

Not that i remember.

 

I ran a benchmark for NHL 2008 using FRAPS.

nhl2008 (SW)
Frames: 1364 - Time: 52737ms - Avg: 25.864 - Min: 16 - Max: 40

nhl2008 (HW)
Frames: 1068 - Time: 57749ms - Avg: 18.493 - Min: 12 - Max: 30


This benchmark was done from when the game begins (the cinematics), to 1 minute after the puck is dropped. Average in-game framerate stabilized at roughly 20-21 frames in HW mode and 30-34 in SW mode.

 

definitely run it on hardware. (I guess you may have missed IntelUser's post on the solution he found, see post #295 in this thread)
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=2712878&highlight=empire*#post2712878

 

i dont know if this has to do in anything with the drivers, but i dont have nothing to lose, Does anyone of you have any problem viewing pictures in windows photo gallery in classic view, because i do the images look kinda blurry and in fade there's like white lines around the edges.

Again i dont know if this has to in any way with the drivers, thanks.

 

It is unrelated to your graphics card. I "think" it's because you're scrolling too fast and you're not letting the images load past their thumbnails! Try waiting a few seconds.

 

what im trying to say is that when i see the images in full screen they seem flickering.

 

if i remember correctly, that ingames can be vsync, im not sure u adjust that setting in windows , i know u can set it in xorg.conf at least

 

sorry, im new user in this forum, want to say hi to all of you, been reading this post every day, as u can imagine im a X3100 owner, today im gonna install windows xp and ubuntu on my new(weeeee!) acer extensa 5620, lets see what can a intel core2duo do on linux, my config its a intel 5250(1.5ghz), 2 gb ram 667, 128 shared(up to 368) video memory, an X3100 video card p), intel pro/wireless 3945ABG Network, and a super realtek audio ^^, well go get it guys, hope to be able to play some games, bb enjoy!

btw: sorry if i write something wrong, learning english, gtg, cya!

 

[kou]warch welcome to the forums, and wellcome to being a x3100 owner.

 

I Just downloaded the 14.31 XP drivers for my HP Compaq 6720 and its says that the "The driver being installed is not validated for this computer"

What gives?

 

Hi RovingCalypso, from the link you send it seems to be a customized computer, perhaps you bought with a diferent video card without knowing?

 

Has anyone tried installing SP1 for Vista? They claim they fixed a hibernation problem, but because of it, I'm having hibernation problems.

On the "Find Solutions" window, it recognizes Intel Graphics Adapter as the perpetrator of the problem. I currently have 15.7, anyone else have this problem?

 

Dell has the same problem, you got to use the windows device manager for that.. extract the driver.. and then find your graphic card in Device manager. Upgrade drivers, and when you find it possible, use "Have a Disk" option..

Text got quite confusing, but you can find tutorials in google too, if this post won't help.

 

the problem is i cant extract the drivers as it says not intended for this hardware. any idea how to extract it?

 

When you run the setup, it should extract to a temp folder. Or you can get the developers zip version I believe.