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    MSI's HD4670 is running in my Acer 5920G

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by triturbo, Oct 13, 2009.

  1. Tmo

    Tmo Notebook Geek

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    I found a 9650m GT 1GB DDR2 which would go in my laptop the right way and supposedly works with m50 Asus models. I dont think the trade off money wise is even worth it from a 9500m gs. I'm jealous of your upgrade

    I feel like it would not be hard for a company that specializes in graphics card adapters, such as the one that make the parts for the DIY ViDock, to make a connector which would flip the mxm to normal. However I am probably just ignorant and the companies have little financial incentive.
     
  2. Rorschach

    Rorschach Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    :eek: rofl its funny to see him actually offended for once....
     
  3. EchoShade

    EchoShade Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm Asian but having friends and having used to live in an incredibly racist town like mine pretty much desensitized to any possible insults. Besides, who gets offended on the internet???
     
  4. sean473

    sean473 Notebook Prophet

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    i haven't lived in a super racist town like you all so i am getting offended.. sorry for not being as thick skined as u ppl.
     
  5. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    Relax guys, sorry that some of you got offended, the guy was just kidding :) The post is long gone, so keep it cool.

    HWTools are pretty innovative as you can see (and a little more expensive than most of the people hoped), so you can e-mail them, they could make your wish come true :D
     
  6. Tmo

    Tmo Notebook Geek

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    Triturbo you inspired me, I emailed them haha. We'll see if I get a response.
     
  7. kisetsu17

    kisetsu17 Took me long enough

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    Technically my laptop has no back panel, but the heatsink/GPU is facing down, so just like what you're guessing..but mine's MXM tho. Is yours really a flipped one?
     
  8. Tmo

    Tmo Notebook Geek

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    Yea mine's flipped but its definitely mxm-II. if I stuck that card in my laptop it would probably work but the gpu would be on the wrong side therefore no contact with heatsink.
     
  9. kisetsu17

    kisetsu17 Took me long enough

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    You could modify the heatsink, if it has the copper tube. Lol or not hehe
     
  10. Tmo

    Tmo Notebook Geek

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    Haha Believe me the thought crossed my mind, but I could definitely see that thing melting a hole through my mobo, seeing as if I put the card in and managed to modify the heatsink it would but a really tight fit, not to mention sandwiched between the card and the mobo
     
  11. Undertaxxx

    Undertaxxx Notebook Consultant

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    its been 2 months since I ordered my 4650 (ddr2) and still haven't recieved it. Now I read this and I'm actually pissed..
    Don't get me wrong! I'm verry happy for you and glad to see everything works great.
    Still I'm a bit.. you know... it gives me a bad feeling you got a 4670..and you're not even telling where you got it.
    I'm guessing iligal ..

    O well! Great Job!!
     
  12. Undertaxxx

    Undertaxxx Notebook Consultant

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    Also I'm wondering if you had any problems with the bios?
     
  13. Exostenza

    Exostenza Notebook Evangelist

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    I've got 2x3870 in crossfire in my laptop and it gets me about 15000 in 3dmark06. Only problem is there are no supported drivers so I have to use the mobility modder to get them on my computer. Do the drivers install fine for you without having to mod them?
     
  14. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    Any updates, are you still waiting it?

    Thanks :)

    Nothing illegal, I can assure you at least that :)

    Not at all - plug'n'play :D

    I'm using Mobility Modder too :)
     
  15. Undertaxxx

    Undertaxxx Notebook Consultant

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    Still not delivered, ather numberous of e-mails, they send me acer was having trouble with this model..

    Oh my god.
     
  16. BozidaR

    BozidaR Notebook Enthusiast

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    Which one you ordered: VG.M9606.005 or VG.M9606.006? Can't see difference, except ~80US$. And, what is VG.M9606.004?
     
  17. TehSuigi

    TehSuigi Notebook Virtuoso

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    The M9606.004 part is the Radeon HD 4670 1GB GDDR3 MXM-A found in the Aspire 8935G.
     
  18. BozidaR

    BozidaR Notebook Enthusiast

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    Just trying to sort things out: There are versions of 8935g with HD 4670 and HD 4650 as well. If 4670 iz MXM III form factor, 4650 can be placed into same card slot, instead of 4670, because it's smaller. Correct?
     
  19. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    You messed up the standards. It's OK, you'll get it after a while, here is the TehSuigi's response:

     
  20. BozidaR

    BozidaR Notebook Enthusiast

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    @triturbo

    Thanks, bratko, I was going too fast.

    And, again, anybody to tell difference among .005 and .006 versions of 4650?
     
  21. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    So far no one knows, bratko :) We are just guessing that it's probably the same product with two part numbers (which is kinda stupid), but as I said, no one knows for sure. You can check it, if you buy them both :p
     
  22. Sypieni

    Sypieni Notebook Guru

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    Where did you manage to get your 4670? thanks
     
  23. EchoShade

    EchoShade Notebook Evangelist

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    He already stated that he can't tell on the first page.
     
  24. GridRacer

    GridRacer Notebook Geek

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    Hi

    Does anybody know if the HDMI-Output is working with the HD4650 or with the 4670 on the 5920G?
    Thanks.
     
  25. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    I'm interested in that as well, but I don't have appropriate external display to test it right now :(
     
  26. GridRacer

    GridRacer Notebook Geek

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    But in general it should work?
    So I think the pin placement is the same as on the 8600M GT or the 9500M GS.
    And I also think that ATI wouldn't change so much in comparison to the HD3650.
     
  27. King of Interns

    King of Interns Simply a laptop enthusiast

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    It think it is fairly likely to work. ATI thankfully has not changed their chip placement between the 3650, 4650 and 4670 cards it appears unlike nvidia.
     
  28. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    When I swap my HD3470 for HD3650, HDMI worked like a charm. Maybe it would be the same now, but I can't be sure till I try it.
     
  29. GridRacer

    GridRacer Notebook Geek

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    Thanks for helping!!!

    I think I'm going to buy a HD4650 because it's more easier to get one.
     
  30. johnnyman27

    johnnyman27 Notebook Lover

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    where can i buy an ati 4650 gddr3??thaxxx!!
     
  31. King of Interns

    King of Interns Simply a laptop enthusiast

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    You can't. There are select DDR2 4650's for sale from acer and that is just about it. The 4670 is practically impossible to get.
     
  32. Undertaxxx

    Undertaxxx Notebook Consultant

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    I think I'm going to skip upgrading my 5920g and save up for a gaming rig.

    Since I got my refund (4650 - ipc-computer.de) I figured I could eventually save enough for a decent pc. :D

    So triturbo, any updates on the performance/temps?
     
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    Nm1 Notebook Consultant

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    King of Interns Simply a laptop enthusiast

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    Yup we do but then you don't have a gaming laptop :p
     
  36. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    Actually I did some tweaks, but my internet is REALLY bad, so I'll upload pictures later :) Not the temperature decrease that I'd expected, but I have some more ideas for tweaking.
     
  37. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    Copper HDD mounting bracket, good for -1ºC A friend of mine made it out of 0,5mm copper sheet with a little help from me. It was 4 hours work, but I think that it worth it.

    [​IMG]

    I'd dremeled out the aluminum fins and replaced them with copper blocks and Sekisui tape. Result - same temps. I guess it's because air passages are too thin to allow proper air flow :) I'll try to make the passages wider, I'll buy Arctic Alumina Thermal Adhesive and I'll pray for lower temps :)

    [​IMG]

    Copper blocks idea came from those two threads :)

    I have 24 more blocks (8 now and 16 on their way) which I'll put over the CPU and wherever I can fit them :D
     
  38. EchoShade

    EchoShade Notebook Evangelist

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    Your laptop is turning into a Frankenstein isn't it. :D :D :D
     
  39. vinc3nt86

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    Roughly how much does it cost to get HD4670 512MB DDR3? (I would like to set a budget for myself) My 8600M GT just broke down. Somehow, I feel good about it, now I get the chance to upgrade my lappy's performance. :p

    I have searched and read topics by topics on MXM upgrade and learned a few tricks. Regarding the thermal paste, would Cooler Master NanoFusion Thermal Interface Material with 7.8w/mK be your choice? I believe this is the best thermal paste I could find in my place (for now). Besides, could you tell me more bout the copper stuff? Like could I just buy it in a hardware shop or I have to specifically get it from an IT shop? Is there any different?

    Thanks!

    Vincent
     
  40. londez

    londez Notebook Evangelist

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    Nice. I wish MXM was alot more user friendly. I kinda lost interest in MXM after my z81sp died :(
     
  41. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    I'm doing my best :D

    It's nearly impossible to buy HD4670, but you can definitely buy a HD4650 instead. It's not the same as its bigger brother, but it's a very nice upgrade over your 8600M :)

    I personally prefer MX-2. I don't know how easy for manipulation NanoFusion is, but I'm sure that MX-2 is among the top ones in terms of temperature decrease and it's the easiest to use - put a little over your CPU/GPU slap the heatsink and you're done :D

    What about the copper? I have a copper sheet (16mm x 16mm x 0,9mm for HD3650 and 18mm x 18mm x 0,9mm for HD4670) instead of thermal pad between my GPU core and the heatsink. This alone cuts my temps with good 15ºC to 20ºC. Here is the topic, where I saw it. The other copper modifications haven't proved as most efficient so far, but I'm working on it :) I'd ordered another heatsink, so I can pull this one and work on it and I'll still have a working laptop (I was 2 days offline while cutting my heatsink) :D If you have copper sheets like these (0,9mm thick for the GPU; 0,5mm for the HDD bracket) in your local hardware store, buy it from there, otherwise - eBay. You can try to use 0,5mm one on your GPU as well, in order to avoid buying two sheets. The problem is that I'm not very confident if 0,5mm would fill the gap. I'll let you know if I try it :)

    What do you mean? Sorry, I'm probably missing something, but what MXM has to do with your lappy's death?
     
  42. EchoShade

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    Personally I saw really great results with IC Diamond. It cut my temps down about 6C switching from AS5.
     
  43. vinc3nt86

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    The market is loaded with HD3650 512MB at USD78 (cheapest I could find) and not HD4650. It's kind of hard to grab any of HD4650 in the market sigh and now I have to work with my friend PC.

    Before I go on purchasing anything, what kind of information do i need to take notice of? As far as I know, it must be preloaded with Acer vBios. So what else could you share with me.

    P/s: First time hand-on so I might need lots of help with all those configuration in the future regarding Flash, Bios upgrade and so on.... Even though I have read some of them, but still I could not absorb most of it.

    Thanks!!
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    What happened to your card? :confused:
     
  45. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    It cuts 2ºC over MX-2 for me, but I find it a lot harder for application. That's why I would recommend MX-2 :)

    Check this topic for HD4650 related questions, including where you can actually get one :)

    It would be good to have Acer vBIOS, but it should work fine even if it's not (my HD4670 has MSI vBIOS).

    Never arrived and he got refunded.
     
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    I wonder what thay card can do when fitted to a cooler that works properly :p
     
  47. vinc3nt86

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    Yeah, I have followed that topic from the beginning. Feeling stressful after reading for 40 pages. I will try luck in there so thanks triturbo!! Appreciate it!
     
  48. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    It's currently running @1,1v and I'm lazy to flash it :p When I refine my cooling, I'll see what this thing can do. I'm a bit scared though, you can't find a HD4670 everywhere, you know :rolleyes:

    No problem, I wish you good luck with the upgrade :)
     
  49. kisetsu17

    kisetsu17 Took me long enough

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    MSI into Acer laptops work. But I'm trying to find out whether MXM cards from Zepto work on Acers--Zepto card aren't proprietary, right? I'm also trying to find out what vBIOS the cards have..
     
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    I might let my HD 4650 go for the right price.....
     
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