I completely agree with your opinion as i share the same sentiments.
Get those benches out of the way, then run much lower for everyday
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I did something extra to cool those when putting the 680m together with the AW sink, that's part of the reason why my card is clocking so high...the other is the gpu die, seems to be one of those golden samples.
Max temp during the runs I did was 85c I believe. Manageable but nothing I'd want all the time. My typical temp is 74-76c at 902/1100.
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Granted, your experience + post/'rep count' place 'DJStarscream' within the category of 'neophyte' when it comes to benchmarking & OC'ing - that doesn't prohibit me from being interested in how the forum member in question found gaming on such high clocks.
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16 in the graphics score ahead of mine
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but to answer your original question....refer to 5150joker.
and as someone already mentioned a nice round over clock for you to run. kind of why i asked him to post here.
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I have a couple of questions. First off, is there a normal 680M overclocking thread, minus any custom video BIOS or overvolting? I ask because honestly overvolting has always seemed like something that should be reserved just for benchmarks, as forcing your silicon to run that tightly for extended periods of time can't be healthy. Also after several tests I found about the max I can get the card to run on stock voltage, although I'm unsure if this will work in games (and don't know how to test really because a sudden framerate drop from the 40s to 30s could be any number of things, and doesn't have to be strictly due to the GPU buckling. All that aside here's what I found about the max for me on stock voltage without any custom modded video BIOS:
Those three are pretty much exactly identical, and then this one seems like a fluke, as further attempts with both 854 core and 1100 memory drop back to around ~6800:
After reading Meaker's post that the RAM is rated at 1.25GHz, I tried different setups with that. First I left the core at 719MHz, trying to let the card use as much juice as it needed for the RAM to go full speed, but even like that at 719 core and 1250 memory, I believe that's too much for stock voltage as I was getting about 6800 3DMarks. I realize now that I have not tried lowering the core speed while using that 1.25GHz RAM speed, but I would be surprised if that brought the score up.
I don't want this post to be entirely off topic so I actually do have some points relating to the OP. First off, that's an incredible score, especially considering this is a mobile card in a laptop. Secondly, how did you manage only 80C Meaker? I don't have the tape mod and I've kept the factory's paste (albeit IC Diamond), but I had to keep the turbo fans on manually through Fn+1 throughout my runs of 3DMark11 to keep the temps below 90C so the GPU wouldn't throttle. Even with the fans jacked up my highest end tests were hitting 88C. I think some hit 90C, but I threw those out because they were trying things like 854 core 1250 memory, which was getting like 6400 3DMarks, clearly hindered by the voltage. I believe you've said you used the tape mod. Does it really make that large of a difference? I mean do you have any idea of your temps prior to the mod? Also lastly, is there currently any custom video BIOS that raises the max voltage of the card, and raises the OC limits, but doesn't increase the minimum? I don't even know if that's possible, but I'm asking because I'd like to be able to use the card with the components at their rated speeds, such as the video RAM actually running at 1250MHz, as opposed to 900 or even 1000 (assuming I'm able to game like that, which I may not be). The core clock I wouldn't try to jack up as high as you guys have been over 1GHz and such, but just enough to utilize the 1250MHz video RAM we've got on these cards. -
What is the software to use to OC the 680m without voltage offset beside the nvidiainspector?
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Don't bother, you will clock bounce.
That's why there is no point running a non vbios flash overclockers thread. You will all hit 900mhz (on the clevos) and going higher will lower your performance as your clock fluctuates more and more. -
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so what you are basically saying is that there is no reason to OC a 680m without a modded vbios? because i am seeing am seeing a pretty decent increase with the stock vbios using AB
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But other then that, it's worthy thoughOC = free power, ESPECIALLY on a 680M that run so cool
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You can OC the GPU to 854MHz just fine, but as soon as you bump the vRAM, it will bounce. There is a performance improvement though, but not same as if it didn't bounce.
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Anybody here is with clevo 4gb card and using it on m17 r3 with the mod vbios? Which bios that you use?
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Hey Guys, im running a Clevo 4GB 680m, and was wondering if i could please try (i think its SVET?) VBIOS, at the moment ive hit the wall at P6808 OC, and wanted to see what else i can unleash! any help or points in a right direction would be super kind of you
Not that it makes a difference, but GPUZ reports bios 80.04.29.00.01 (P2051-b002) if that helps...
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@ Grechie - See my sig for link to vBIOS's
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Hm that's strange - i dont see any clocks bouncing when I play or bench: could you possibly post a screenshot so I can see what's going on ? I've tried all vbios (clevo oem, msi oem, msi ov) and the clocks (core/ram) are stuck at the maximum whatever game I play.
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Hi Grechie,
are you reporting that using the mod bios does not help on OC this 680m?
Also, i still using stock bios with afterburner (+135 core clock and +650 mem clock) and i hit wall with P7082 3DMarks.
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Saltius BIOS seems to fix this but svl7's does not. It would be good to get this incorporated into svl7's BIOS too.
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For some reasons, I don't have these odd throttle issues with the Clevo 680M into the GT70 barebone - the clocks always stay stable whatever the vBIOS and what I'm doing (benching or gaming)...
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Likely done on purpose but your ec is not looking for that info and the msi vbios does not send it to my ec.
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That's really interesting then - but on the other hand, If I install the MSI OEM 680m vbios, I do suffer from throttles straight away when I slightly o/c the GPU
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My temps are bouncing off 90°C when the fans kick in higher, and then down again to 85°, and back up and down when under max load with the Saltius vBIOS clocked to 1037/2580 (+/- a couple of MHz on the memory clocks as don't have laptop with me). Do these temperatures sound about right? No cooling pad, ambient temperature of about 24°C, using ICD and with the backplate on. At stock clocks it was hard to break 77°C under the same ambient conditions.
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stock Vbios OC listed in sig I played several games for several hours and did not have clock bouncing. The only time i saw something that resembled it was in 3dm11, but it just went down between tests. I can post picks when I get home from work .
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Ran Blacklight: Retribution with 829 MHz core and 2100 MHz memory and as far as i can understand from my GPU-Z log file it did not clock bounce.
Of course its not as high as other users here but i will try going higher.
Using stock vBios and Nvidia Inspector.
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Tried 854 MHz core & 2400 MHz memory and still no clock bounce, but now i can play with Ultra no AA at 60fps when on 1920x1080.
So much cooler than my old HD 6970m.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/13760085/854 2400.txt
While being expensive it still performs good enough for me to justify the upgrade.
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Bounce could possibly be an Enduro thing?
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No its not, I have a p170EM and I am not experiencing this bouncing issue at all at 854/2400
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Here it is in Kombustor. Faster FPS using stock speeds than overclocked.
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Nice temps HTWingNut, how high does the 680M get in Kombuster if you just leave it for about 10 minutes? Both at stock and overclocked or overvolted?
I ran some 3DMark11 today and these are the scores I could get with the modded 1.037V VBIOS:Attached Files:
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Very nice benches Tyranids! +rep
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3740QM CPU @ 2.70GHz,CLEVO P170EM score: P8581 3DMarks
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I must either be applying thermal paste wrong or just have an incredibly hot card, but mine always idles around 40C (dips down to 37-38C at times) while hitting 89-90C and thereforthrottling no matter if I use the default voltage and clocks or the overvolted video BIOS.
Usually 3DMark11 is short enough that it only gets up to 86-88C and won't ruin the score, but actually gaming, or running a longer benchmark (I like 10 loops of the Crysis 1 benchmark) always get it up to 89C and throttle. -
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80C with the back off and cooling fans on the heatsinks lol when running at the super high voltages.
Bit cooler on that one because I get throttling on the GPU/CPU as the brick cries out for mercy.
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All my high voltage runs have been with that..... You are not going to get 1087mhz core clocks done properly without some help.
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And yes i would get 1.1 ghz and higher with those cards as well.
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ok now I feel a bit better. I was doing my runs with the laptop fully assembled and sitting with the keyboard facing up as you would during normal use. some gaming at 1GHz core 1.25GHz memory in Skyrim for about 90 minutes had the card running about 70-80C, and the core would only throttle down during loading screens (gpu usage dropped to like 20% or so during those periods as well, which should be expected).
carry on, all, the benchmarks in this thread are really amazing. 9k on a laptop would be incredible. the stock 660 TI's are getting scores around 9k I believe. -
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Meaker BREAKS the record! 8289 (8700 GPU score)
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