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    Mobile GPU Gaming Performance Chart by plasma.

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by plasma., Dec 31, 2008.

  1. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    FX 2700M = 9700M GTS and FX 3700M > 9800M GTX (16 more steam processors)
     
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    Rich.Carpenter Cranky Bastage

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    Thanks. That helps a lot. Also, your GPU chart is fantastic. :)
     
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    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    No problem :)
     
  4. Amerika

    Amerika Notebook Guru

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    Very nice chart!
     
  5. plasma.

    plasma. herpyderpy

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    Yep, that's right, though with the proper drivers, workstation cards tend to be more powerful than their geforce counterparts.
     
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    the 9400 IGPU, means it's the integrated graphics version? the one that will feature on the Ion Nvidia netbooks and the one currently in the new unibody macbook?


    it says it can run crysis at low, but what sort of framerates are we talking about?
     
  7. Oiad

    Oiad Notebook Evangelist

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    Agreed. New graphs with other popular game choices at the moment please. :D
     
  8. plasma.

    plasma. herpyderpy

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    Suggestions? :)

    I'll do them tommorow.
     
  9. yodawg

    yodawg Notebook Consultant

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    i have a hd3650 and i play games at very playable settings which higher than those listed there. Such as left for dead maxed with some aa and cod 4 maxxed.
     
  10. thelaptopguy

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    lol the first 3 games all run on practically the same engine...
     
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    Just to clarify, which would be the "proper drivers" for the workstation cards?
     
  12. Oiad

    Oiad Notebook Evangelist

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    Any recent releases you have so you don't spend too much money. Unless that's not a problem for you... Start with some popular choices of the moment.

    'Sins of a Solar Empire' was a good idea. I'd like to see how 'The Witcher' compares on other cards too. A few others?

    Popular choices at the moment seem to be GTA IV, Deadspace and Company of Heroes. Anyone else want to see some other games up there?

    I think this'll be worth brownie points. ;)
     
  13. ntsan

    ntsan Notebook Consultant

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    Well the difference is like 1000 3dmarks for mid gfx like 9600M and lower for lower ones between DDR2 and DDR3
     
  14. plasma.

    plasma. herpyderpy

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    I have Unreal Tournament 3 here.
     
  15. plasma.

    plasma. herpyderpy

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    I can max out lots of games too, but the critical variable is the resolution. Everyone is saying they can play at higher settings and whatever without mentioning resolution.

    Woah, you have a red bar? Is that actually possible :rolleyes:



    Guys, seriously, it's impossible to make a chart that pleases everybody.

    next up: UT3. Still installing. [DONE]

    Then maybe GTAIV as it seems to be in such a high demand these days.
     
  16. plasma.

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    UPDATE: Revised everything and added Unreal Tournament 3.
     
  17. Oiad

    Oiad Notebook Evangelist

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    I can see this is going to turn into a very long table by the time it's finished... Kudos.
     
  18. plasma.

    plasma. herpyderpy

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    Going to buy Far Cry 2 and Battlefield 2 tomorrow.
     
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    yodawg Notebook Consultant

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    ok heres my info for my hd3650 ddr2 at 1280x800 at very playable fps, no aa or af

    farcry2 -everything on max except shadows at medium dx9 ~25 fps
    l4d - maxed ~45fps
    gta 4- medium all, shadow density at 0, other sliders at 30 - 18fps
    cod4/5 maxed ~25fps
    dmc4- maxed ~40fps
    bioshock- maxed ~25fps

    currently it looks like the hd3650 ddr2 is under represented
     
  20. plasma.

    plasma. herpyderpy

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    Thanks, I'll try and edit.

    What are your other specs (CPU, HDD).

    Geez, I don't think this chart will work. Everyone is getting varied and different results.
     
  21. plasma.

    plasma. herpyderpy

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    By popular demand (Looking at you Will ;)), the chart is alive again!

    Up next: GTAIV

    Sins of a Solar Empire doesn't seem popular enough to warrant a chart so...
    Any other popular game suggestions?
     
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    I would suggest reconsidering Sins of a Solar Empire (or other demanding RTS title such as Supreme Commander, etc.) for the simple reason that pretty much everything on the chart except for WoW is a FPS-style game. Fallout 3 would be an excellent choice as well.

    I'm the sort of player who, while I do enjoy FPS games from time to time, my requirements for enjoying them aren't terribly high. What I *do* strive for, however, is the best looking graphics I can get in RPG, adventure and strategy games. Unfortunately, those aren't really represented in the chart.

    Thanks for all the work you've put into this.
     
  23. plasma.

    plasma. herpyderpy

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    Okay, since I actually own it, Fallout 3 it is!

    GTA IV is very hard to do seeing as I need to scour the forums and CMNRI thread (I don't own it). You guys will have to be patient with me :)
     
  24. WILLY S

    WILLY S I was saying boo-urns

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    RTS games are processor dependant, this is a gpu chart.
    GTA4 is processor dependant and too poorly optimised imo even though there has apparantly been a patch released adressing performance issues.

    Crysis, half life 2 and CS:S need a little refinement, so do the resolution options. Check my effort on page 10, though i did leave out the DDR2 GDDR3 variations so(more work for you :p)

    I've fallout3, i'll contribute with my increadably pathetic stock clocked 8400m GT running on medium @ XGA. HDR on, medium textures, low shadows, medium water, sliders average around 2/5. I'll get some framerates, maybe screenshots, if you want. More people need to do this also.
     
  25. plasma.

    plasma. herpyderpy

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    Thanks Willy.

    Done GTAIV, now with the tedious print screen process..... EDIT: DONE!
     
  26. plasma.

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    *Looks at watch*

    Whoa, 3:30am! I'll do Fallout 3 tomorrow guys.

    Haha, thanks for the rep. You really like that song, don't you :)
     
  27. WILLY S

    WILLY S I was saying boo-urns

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    Yep, hadn't repped you for this thread and though i'd wreck you control panel :D
     
  28. tuηay

    tuηay o TuNaY o

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    Still love my 9800M GTX :)
     
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    True, as far as the AI is concerned. They often use smaller, less detailed graphics models, but Supreme Commander is an exception, I believe, as the number of units rendered on-screen goes into the hundreds. Add to that the ability to zoom in and out.
     
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    Wouldn't worry about Sins, I have it and it runs perfectly maxed on a 9800GTS
     
  31. tianxia

    tianxia kitty!!!

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    i have a 8600m gs gddr3, UT3 will not run well at 1440*900 on high.
    partly because the games requires at least 40+ to be playable.

    EDIT: i can run it with solid 40+ fps with wxga and 2/5 settings, still looks pretty good, or was i too busy pwning?
     
  32. plasma.

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    Haha, I actually raised the 8600M GS performance cause some people were complaining that their card was under represented :|

    You can't please everybody.
     
  33. plasma.

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    Crap. My hard drive got corrupted!

    Ahhhhh! :mad: No I have to start over again....
     
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    That's great, but what about lesser GPU's?
     
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    That's a bummer. It should be said again, that we *really* appreciate your efforts on all this.
     
  36. WILLY S

    WILLY S I was saying boo-urns

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    So you lost all your games too?:O

    The chart is huge, very difficult to navagate. My screen in covered in fingerprints thanks to you >:\

    It's getting better but performance for some cards doesn't add up, and the higher end of the crysis list is still over represented.
    WVGA is a crazy resolution! Add XGA(1024 x 768) and SVGA(800 x 600) which are slightly more standard.
     
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    crash NBR Assassin

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    plasma. herpyderpy

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    Actually only my External HDD got corrupted, my Internal one is fine.

    Problem is, all my stuff was on the External :(
    No biggie, I'll just have to copy them one by one from the thread.
     
  39. suppaman

    suppaman Notebook Geek

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    Not sure (I don't have other laptops to test it on, this is where you need input from different people with different set-ups), but I can't imagine it's going to tax cards to much (at least real gaming cards). The game is nice looking but it's not that graphically intensive.
     
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    The point is you said, "Wouldn't worry about Sins, I have it and it runs perfectly maxed on a 9800GTS", but we may not all....oh, nevermind.

    Thanks for the input on your particular GPU, anyway.
     
  41. plasma.

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    Done!

    Now I'll get started on Fallout 3....
     
  42. suppaman

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    And I'm saying the game's not that graphically intensive. I just booted up to look at the video options and all that's there are a handful of different screen resolutions, two refresh rate choices, and four AA options. If you have a pretty good CPU you should be able to run the game really well. Recommended specs are low outside of the CPU. Likely anything in the chart will run it at your native res possibly with AA all the way up (it's recommended GPU is Nvidia 7600+ or ATI X1600+). Again like most 4X/RTS games (it's marketed as a RT4X), it's not that GPU intensive but does require some CPU muscle.
     
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    You just said you don't have any other laptops, so you can't say how it would run on other GPU's. Look, I really don't mean to come off sounding either argumentative or critical here. All I'm saying is that the fact that it runs great on your 9800M GTS, while certainly informative, is not all anyone would need to hear. It's kind of like saying your Porche can make it from Chicago to Tampa in 8 hours, so I shouldn't have any trouble doing so no matter what I'm driving.

    Does it run maxxed on integrated GPU's? I'm sure we would both agree it doesn't, without even having seen it. So, then, we start talking about the 9300M. The 96x0M. The Radeon 3200M, 3470M. The list goes on. I think we have all seen what "minimum system requirements" often actually mean. That's not what we're talking about here. There is a middle ground there that some of us, would like to determine. If it's decided that not enough people are interested, I'm ok with that. That doesn't mean it's irrelevant for everyone, though.

    It's all good though. Just wanted to clarify the reasons for my request.
     
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    Oh I know but I'm stating that even the creators would tell you that the game isn't GPU demanding. Outside of the integrated cards listed on here (honestly no one with an integrated card should expect to run brand new games, let alone new games well) almost all listed should be able to run the near max if your CPU can handle the game well enough.


    The point is there wasn't enough to warrant in depth research and posting of the game in the chart, but that as someone who has the game, if you have a CPU that can handle RTS/4X games well and a recent dedicated card you'll likely be able to max the game on your system (pretty much all dedicated cards on the chart below the 3650/9600GT have a resolution lower than 1080p so the lower cards can likely handle the game at their screens native res...again there really are no options besides res and AA)
     
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    I was just thinking that perhaps one RTS game was warranted, and if so, Sins of a Solar Empire or, perhaps even more appropriate, Supreme Commander, would be a very good candidate. If nothing else, it would help to round out the chart.
     
  46. plasma.

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    Fallout 3 is really annoying to do. Does anyone have any results to share? I can get hardly anything on it.
     
  47. WILLY S

    WILLY S I was saying boo-urns

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    I've resized these to 640 x 480 with imageshack because the original images were all around 3mb :eek:

    Fallout 3
    8400m GT GDDR3 256mb(stock clocks), 180.84 drivers, 3gb ram, T7250 @ 2.0GHz.
    1280 x 800 default medium settings, usually 25 - 35 fps.
    30+ @ 1024 x 768 which is alot more playable, 25+ in V.A.T.S but you dont really need a good framerate there.
    I usually play @ 1024 x 640(16:10) overclocked to slightly faster than the 8600m GS GDDR3(600/1200/800) with shadows off and lighting set to bloom; i like my framerate to be high :)

    I can take some more screenshots with my gpu over/underclocked if you want but i'd say you can guess how similar cards will perform.

    [​IMG]
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    More people need to get on and do this!
     
  48. plasma.

    plasma. herpyderpy

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    Thanks so much! That's an awesome overclock btw. :)
     
  49. Manic Penguins

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    Sweet OC man :cool:

    With my laptop I need all settings low at 1024x640, but FPS stillfluctuates between 20-40 which is annoying.

    Can we get some pics in Rivit City though ;)

    BTW I assume you've check out all the performance tweaks here.
     
  50. WILLY S

    WILLY S I was saying boo-urns

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    Yeah i was actually surprised by how well the game ran at those settings :cool:

    No performance tweaks, which ones do you suggest i use?

    I'll have to find rivet city first, is that the place that's supposed to resemble new york?
     
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