Mobile GTX 1080

Comparison:
GTX 1070: 1920 cores
GTX 1080: 2560 cores

Boost clock comes in addition to the clocks displayed here.
Cheers

 

2024, not 2560 like desktop?

 

Looks like they are disabling some of the cores from the GTX 1080 yes.
Got to keep the full chip for later to cash in more money in 2017 or whatever

 

I'll wait it out, can't really judge at this point.

 

Do you mean not only pushing off DT rejects onto mobile but also charging more money for them?

 

basically what happened with the whole 9xxM series and 880M, except the 980DT

polaris gonna save the day or nah?

 

Lower core clock, lower memory clock and less cores. Where's the unlike button? Not the one to remove a like

 

4 clusters disabled

No GDDR5X

Me disappoint

 

I'd be ok with this to a degree if they weren't trying to charge more.

 

Thaaaaats mobile for you

 

That could be a fake 980 desktop edition card.....

 

Interesting, the rumors said the GTX 1080 (notebook) would have the same shader count, so it will be interesting to see what happens.

 

Wait. Wasn't it just reported that mobile would just be TDP adjusted variants of desktop chips and not fussing with cutting down cores, etc?

 

I really hope that's the case doe.
200w 1080 8G D5X and I'm sold on the P870DM.

 

GTX 980 inside a notebook with 1500MHz+? Thats clocked higher than any desktop GTX 980 cards I know of.
And neither use 2000MHz VRAM

Always a possibility I guess, but sounds very extreme

To me it sounds more likely to have a Pascal chip running 1500MHz instead of desktop Pascal that touch 1800MHz. Thats typical Nvidia. Disabling cores and running lower clocks to reduce TDP. But what do I know

 

Not hard to manually dial in those clocks, especially just to idle at desktop. Just I have seen too much faked GTX 10xx benchmarks lately. It is very possible its real though. I am just saying it COULD BE....

 

You think Clevo faked the screen shot on their new P775DM2-G with 120Hz display?

Edit: fix typo of 755. Sorry my bad.

 

where can I see that?

 

First post.

 

So, with that being the mobile GTX1080 (or 1080M), I guess it runs slightly faster than the desktop GTX1070 due to the extra 128 cores.
What I meant by slightly faster is like roughly 5% improvement.

But what about its TDP? GTX1070 has a TDP of 150W. With that spec, doesn't that push the mobile GTX1080 beyond 150W and make it only suitable for laptops who can handle the mobile GTX980?


Tbh personally I am happy with that since what I have now is just a GTX870M and I am only interested in playing the games at 1080p (well, I only play CSGO and GTA V.....So ). Besides, the mobile flagship card is getting closer to the desktop ones (of course, this doesn't include the 1080ti and new titan we might see in the future).

 

The 980DT is also used in lower TDP environments, MSi GT80 is an example of one of them.

 

But it is still close to 200W, isn't it?

I mean, my GTX870M is only around 100W. I don't think that GTX1080 can really fit into most of the laptops we have.

 

I was thinking that could be a mobile 980 running near its limits, but if that's a picture taken directly from the machine, then what the hell is it? If that shot is real though, it's about as good (give or take) as a 1070... but it's no 1080, and they're most definitely going to call something like $1500 for it.

 

considering eurocom scalping people 1250$ for the 980DT on ebay?

I think it's going to be well over 1500$.

 

Eurocom is expensive, however that isn't exactly "scalping". Here's RJTech's price:

$750 for a 980M G-sync version from RJTech without heatsinks +425 = $1175. Not sure why adding a second 980M is only $625, but whatever. Maybe the cards come cheaper in barebones configs or something; you could ask them. I don't know. But as far as I can see, Eurocom's price is barely a drop in the ocean extra if it comes with heatsinks. I tried to find the GTX 980 on RJTech's site but I couldn't find it standalone, unfortunately.

As for a full 1080? I expected $1300+ for it. But this cut down one? Calling it a GTX 1080 without being cut down? LOL. No. This... THIS is going to be $1500. The actual full 1080 will probably come out next year and be $2000 and power throttle and have 300MHz downclock and still use GDDR5.

 

welp

 

Is depressed thinking about the state of mobile stuff.

 

so...for a 1080M this card is actually nice, tad faster than the desktop 1070 which is a smaller gap to desktop than 980M was to DT970. if, however, this is supposed to be a "1080 mobile edition" then thats just wrong... just slapping on a different name, leaving out the "M" and thus giving a "perfect reason" to charge a 50% higher price tag compared to previous "M" gpus.... ugh

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It should be slower than a 1070. It has a little more cores (2048 vs 1920) but the clockspeed is about 100MHz slower. I'd say give or take that's a slightly slower card.

For a 1080M it'd be ok, like you say, but that is in no way a mobile 1080.

 

Price wise it shouldn't be anymore than the 980D. They don't usually increase prices. The new product usually takes the price of the old model. It's the same as a new model machine with new refreshed hardware, it doesn't usually cost more. I'd say expect $1100 - $1250 for the new Pascal Mobile Desktop (my god it needs a real name)
The flagship M's have been the same prices too, with the usually goofballs like UpgradeYourMonkey trying to charge $1000 for as long as they can.

 

thats the thing though! this card, at 1070 desktop performance level, should NOT cost 1250 bucks like the ACTUAL desktop 980 mobile, but a price tag that is fitting a MOBILE flagship, namely around 850 max when introduced, just like the 980M before. the REAL 1080 desktop mobile with identical shaders and clocks should then take over the DT980´s place and cost 1250. otherwise its just wrong, nvidia dropping the M and selling us a 980M (NOT 980DT) successor with a price tag worthy of a desktop mobile flagship. UGH! guess how much the actual mobile 1080 desktop would then cost? like 1800-1900?!?!? geez... /rant

 

We Need Polaris MXM GPUs and then see what happens to all this exorbitant pricing..

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Yes I get what you mean and totally agree. We're getting ripped off for the exact same design put into desktops cards - nothing bespoke about them that validates the price. I'm just saying that the new gen of cards shouldn't cost much more at launch that the previous cards gens (as ridiculous as they're already priced).

 

Flipping out about imaginary prices, due to a nameless and out of context screenshot. Welcome to NBR folks. A wise man once said, "R E L A X."

 

Well first, 980M was $720 on launch, like the broken 880M. 780M was $860, like 680M and 580M.
Second, I don't feel good expecting a $850 price tag (or a $720 price tag either) for a cut down, downclocked, power-limited, vBIOS-crippled mobile GPU. Let's ask for a realistic number... $500 or less. We need to not be paying double and triple for worse-than-desktop-quality laptop GPUs. If $100 is the price of mobility, so be it. But not $700 markups.
I fully expect the actual GTX 1080 mobile chip to cost about $1500, honestly. Just like intel sold ~$320-priced i7-2600K, i7-3770K and i7-4770K chips as 29x0XM, 39x0XM and 49x0MX chips for $1000 each. I am, of course, open to lovely surprises.

 

$1500 they are dreaming. Although they're not that far off already at $1100-1200. Still that's a 20-40% markup. They can go jump if it is $1500. I'll stick to a slower last gen card and have a serious re-evaluation of my heirarchy of needs.
I wonder that 1080m will cost if / when we get one.

 

It's just a 1080M with the M dropped, so expect it to follow the usual x80M pricing trend.

 

Dont know why the heck you guys complain.
You got 128 more cores than GTX 1070, and with some overclock you can maybe match GTX 1080. GTX 1070 overclocked is almost there, but with 128 cores extra it could be a possibility.

Consider the fact that GTX 980M had 128 cores LESS than GTX 970 last time and it took a looong time until you got GTX 980 desktop

And I dont understand how you think Nvidia will have more to offer for mobile later if they offer a full GTX 1080 right of the bat. Doesnt make any sense.

My 2 cents

 

thats it though, it would NOT be a proper, full 1080 in mobile form factor. so then why name it that? and what about a proper 1080 with all cores enabled? if thats not following up, then its just all an nvidia PR smoke screen to be able and raise pricing...

 

Nvidia is not going to raise prices above the usual brackets, as the laptop manufacturers won't let them. They need x60M laptops iin the $900-$1100 range, x70M laptops in the $1.2k-$1.4k range, and x80M laptops in the $1.5-$2k range.

These things are set in stone and are not going anywhere.

Judging this by how expensive the GTX 980 came out is folly. That was an ultra niche, one-off release, not an indication of where the market is trending.

 

Well I dont know if it is called GTX 1080M or GTX 1080 Mobile.

 

You're saying that like the GTX 980 desktop was a great success.
Short of a few power users and very specialized laptops it had close to zero penetration.
Plus the 9xx series was one of the longest running series and needed a late update (in the form of the 980 desktop) to cater to some VR wanting users.

I bet the 10xx series will be much more short lived so I doubt we'll see two versions of the 1080 on notebooks. (apart from mxm vs soldered modules or ones with slightly higher clocks)

 

More pictures added (OP) from the same machine that confirmes that it is Pascal specs

 

GTX 1080M = 10DE-1BE1




GTX 1070M = 10DE-1BA1



Both cards coming very soon

 

That's nice to see!

 

Sweet. I may try SLi in a notebook this time for the first time since GTX 8800M's in a Dell XPS M1730. (With dedicated Physx chip )

 

So reports of 1080 and 1070 not coming in mobile counterparts are complete misinformation then? I'm totally confused now and everything I know or have been told/leaked is off base too then. I'll just wait and see.

 

They probably just dropped the M to confuse everyone.

 

Pascal is not suitable to make "desktop" versions of cards alone, and their gap of performance is probably too weak. Consider the performance difference between the 960 and the 970 and the price difference as well. Then the price and perf difference between the 970 and the 980. People like to go on about how it's negligible but lolno it really isn't, but the price diff isn't negligible either.

If they wanted to make non-cut-down laptop versions, their desktop lines would need extra cards added, and mobile versions would STILL be gimped, and the strongest mobile card would probably be the 1070, if so good, until next year when they somehow figure out how to get the 1080 into the same envelope without it dying of heat.

 

This is probably always the safe bet. No one ever knows what they are talking about. Just wait for official release.

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