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    Mobile Pascal TDP Tweaker Update and Feedback Thread

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Coolane, Jun 20, 2017.

  1. Falkentyne

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    Ta, always interesting to compare :)
     
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    A 200W 1080 still beats that easily.
     
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    Good scores, same as my desktop! Well, you're a smidgeon faster on the GPU and a smidgeon slower on the CPU (especially the Timespy Physics score, but that's very heavily RAM dependant, tweaking your RAM would improve that).
     
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    Yeah I can confirm, the CH341A cannot write to 1.8Chips properly, it srsly has some issues with that. There seems to be some kind of distortionm when trying to read and write the chip. Better to get a skypro.
     
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    Hi,
    i need same help with the Quadro P5000 Vbios.
    The clock sliders are complete locked.
    How can i unlock them?
     
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    There is an option on the TDP tweaker that allows you to unlock it.
     
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    @Mr. Fox
    I was wondering if what you wrote about your programmer also is true for the newer skypro revisions?

    There are also 2 parts where you can stick your clip into, is the upper part 3.3v and the underpart 1.8v? Would that mean I don't need an adapter?
     
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    Th CH341A isnt really compatible with most vBIOS chips. And then there is the reason why it cant properly regulate for 1.8V - Just doesn't have the right IC's and is trying to do it in software.
     
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    I think I picked up one of the last sky pros in the uk on Amazon.
     
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    Looks like this is not working on the latest files, the structure has changed.
     
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  13. Kittys

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    Yeah its quite unfortunate :(
     
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    Can you instead use it to flash an older vBIOS and then edit that one?
     
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    Yep, just an idea of mine, but we'll have to wait to hear from more experienced people in this field regarding if this can be done. Looking forward to hearing some replies hopefully.
     
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    Strange!
     
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    No, older versions of the file can't boot in with 8th gen systens.
     
  18. Kittys

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    A lot of values are in totally different places is the jist of it and drivers cannot change that. So you can write and modify the bios fine, you can even flash it fine after saving it with this tool but it will not unlock or modify a thing.
     
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    Did you use 1.8v adapter and all that jazz? If you have orig bios re-flash it too just in case...an actual read only shouldn't kill it... @bloodhawk might have idea? Ive tried improper bios, had it out of the system handful of times and everything and still haven't been able to murder mine.
     
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  20. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    @ CheeZuShRicE

    Your stock dump has a corrupted header. Here a fixed version...
     

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    Man, that sucks! Maybe try cleaning the gold contacts of the GPU in case they got grubby when you were handling it. Maybe try resetting the BIOS back to defaults. Maybe try taking the main battery out & draining all power by keeping power button pressed for say 20 secs while unplugged & without battery. Some things I might try.
     
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    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    It's not writing but reading it wrong...
    After flashing the fixed file your system will work again.
     
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    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Reflash the stock vBIOS update from MSI in Windows now to reset the Falcon.
    And get rid of the 397.xx driver, they cause black screens, flicker and crashes as well.
     
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    You will need to flash the vBIOS multiple times, to make sure it doesnt mess up the header. Specially if you are using the single IC 1.8V adapter.

    I usually suggest doing this -

    Manually erase -> Read to verify clean chip -> Load BIOS file -> Hit Auto and let it do its thing -> Read to verify.

    If this doesn't work, sometimes, then take clip off, reseat it and repeat until it does work.
     
  25. Falkentyne

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    This vbios is good. Unlike current Ngreedia drivers, this actually works.
     
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    You can always hold it down with one hand.
     
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    Didn't we all tell you to get a Pomona 5250 clip and not to cheap out?
    This is what happens when people take the easy way out.
    Gotta take recommendations, man. Its not to inconvenience you. Its to save you frustrations in the end.
     
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    What sort of surface is that GPU sitting on?
    From my perspective, looks like there could be a lot of dust and static on that thing. The first thing I saw was "static magnet".
    Is that an oversized mouse pad or something?
    GPU won't die just from reading.

    Have you tried giving the MXM slot port pins a Deoxit D5 bath?

    https://www.amazon.com/DeOxit-Cleaning-Solution-Spray-spray/dp/B0002BBV4G

    Mentioning this because *I* had a black screen (No POST) error on my r9 290x, because the PCIE pins were dirty.
    And guess what fixed it?
    although admittedly there is a VERY LOW chance this is the actual issue, I *DID* in the past, with my STOCK 1070, no less, VERY RARELY AND occasionally have GPU detection failures at POST (the card would boot up and show up as 0 mhz in GPU-Z and undetected, yet there was still a display), and windows booting into low resolution. This issue never happened again after I did a deoxit d5 bath cleaning of the MXM pins. But that's not conclusive science, because it could have been a Bios bug or other MSI Shenanigans at work, and something "else" could have fixed it too. And MSI has quite a few of those as everyone well knows.
     
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    Hopefully when you get the new clip you can flash that non-corrupted vBIOS that Prema did for you - maybe that's the problem, maybe it's not flashing properly and your current vBIOS on your card is corrupted somehow.
     
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    Its easy to flash the bios properly and not have those first bytes messed up. Just follow the sequence i posted earlier a couple of times.

    Also that issue is not because of the clip. Its because of the 1.8v adapter.

    Just use the vBIOS prema posted.
     
  31. Falkentyne

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    How is the 1.8v adapter causing his problem?
     
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    It will be some timing it is messing with but manual erase program and verify worked for me.
     
  33. hacktrix2006

    hacktrix2006 Hold My Vodka, I going to kill my GPU

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    @CheeZuShRicE Depending on where you are in the UK i am more then willing to offer my assistance, I have the all the Clips needed a Dedicated Programming laptop and the Skypro as well. PM me if you need to chat.
     
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    Not trying to be mean here, but you completely and totally ignored my last post.
    NOT trying to be "that guy" but if I take the time to ask a question and you don't reply, well.....
     
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    @CheeZuShRicE what @Falkentyne has suggested could also help, Cleaning the pins won't hurt the card at all and might even help.
    Falkentyne helped me out and thus far he and a few others have been bang on spot.

    He also has a valid point about Bugs in firmware (MUX switching issues on the GT72 was a pain which got fixed via firmware updates).
    Either way good luck to you.

    Edit: Ouch flashing on a mouse pad! hope it was a solid one not a cloth one. When i flashed mine i used Anti-static bag and a Wooden board.
     
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    You could install something like teamviewer and set it up to run on boot and use that to RDP in. There are ways to enable RDP on Windows home as well however due to how its done and it breaking DMCA i will not post how. However your free to search via google.
     
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    You could check on MSI's website to see if for your model there is firmware for your GPU and disable the driver thats in Device Manager and then run nvflash to flash it back to stock. Code 43 i have seen a few times and its basically corrupted header or checksum that causes it.
     
  38. thegh0sts

    thegh0sts Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I got my 1070 vbios from the MSI website but forgot which model laptop I scored it from. Fortunately I still have it on my Google drive. The 1060 should still be available as I has it linked on a few other threads.

    Sent from my Honor View 10 using Tapatalk
     
  39. Falkentyne

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    @CheeZuShRicE

    Yeah that mousepad as soon as I saw the size of that thing there were red flags.
    I originally flashed my card multiple times by sitting it on the Skypro inside box and even that scared me.
    My last 2 flashes i just put it on my puretrak talent. But I was sure enough that there wouldn't be static in it, especially since I was also -barefoot- and naked. I never service my laptop with clothes on cuz im scared of static shock.

    @Kittys you saw that mouse pad when he replied to you. It was an oversized full desk pad he used and he put the GPU side of the card right on it -.-
    Could static have killed it?

    But this is still conflicting information. Code 43 is INDEED a bad flash. Svet had this when he tried to TDP mod flash his 1070. I knew nothing at the time about corrupt headers. However what i do NOT understand is how a header could get corrupt by just doing an initial READ. I took off the 1.8v and read my GT73VR's main system bios just for the Lulz. Read np and it didn't even act like it cared when I put the 1070 back in (was a final TDP mod to 230W).

    I thought code 43 at least allows you into BIOS or system VGA?
     
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    How are you flashing?

    Sent from my Honor View 10 using Tapatalk
     
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    Did you follow the sequence i mentioned earlier.. like twice?
     
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    What's the version of the vbios?

    Sent from my Honor View 10 using Tapatalk
     
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    Neah its not dead and is easily recoverable. Let us know when the new clip comes in.

    Also just to be sure, the chip that is selected on the left, matches the number that is written on the chip right? (What happens when you hit detect?)

    I do not know about MSI cards, but Clevo 1080's sometimes have different chips installed (albeit the same size and specs).

    I probably missed this , but is your machine Coffee Lake based or Kaby Lake?
     
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    If you're in Toronto I might be able to help LOL


    Sent from my Honor View 10 using Tapatalk
     
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    @CheeZuShRicE 95% certain it's the clip.
    Do you also have the cables to connect the Pomona 5250 clip to the 1.8v adapter too?

    You need male to female cables. Male end connects to Pomona clip, female to 1.8v adapter. pin 1 is marked on the 1.8v adapter but is always top left, going COUNTER-CLOCKWISE.

    Various brands.
    This is what me and @Kittys use:
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EV70C78/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2WWHQ25ENKVJ1

    I got the corrupt block thing once but the SKYPRO SOFTWARE actually detected it and said there was a verify error.
    So I did it 2 more times and it verified OK.
    No problems.

    You got a verify error?
    BTW are you in California? if you're anywhere close to Riverside maybe I can help, bad back and all. Can even do a LM repaste while at it. Have too much LM......
     
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    You mean mine :)

    Fear the ver 1.2 card and foam dams and Cellulose nail polish coats over SMD resistors for LM insurance without Super 33+ tape !
    @Papusan @Kittys @thegh0sts @CheeZuShRicE @bloodhawk

    DO NOT STARE AT MY FOOT THATS NSFW! i remove all shoes and socks before servicing laptops to reduce static shock risk! Be smart. Be like Falkentyne.


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    Probably should have given it the cropping treatment in photoshop.
     
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    Ha, thanks, you made me laugh!
     
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