Mobile Pascal TDP Tweaker Update and Feedback Thread

Right, I’ve flooded this thread with video card info. We will get back on topic.

 

200W GTX 1080 scores about 22500-23000 graphics score. 27000 is 1080 ti land.

 

My skypro arrived on slow boat from china, now just need to wait for the adapter and jumper cables.

 

200W breaks 24k when OCing, but 27k is not feasible, there is diminishing returns. I will try 200-230 on mine, hopefully gets close to 25k, not sure what @bloodhawk got with his 230W mod.

 

I never really ran any solid benchmarks tbh. by when i did it the first time, the score was around 15% lower than my Clevo's score @ 220W.

 

The score increase when going from 115W to 170W (the biggest jump) is purely from the clock speed being higher, because at 115W, you are getting TDP hammered CONSTANTLY so the voltage is almost always at 0.875v in any current game or benchmark where there is heavy GPU usage. This keeps the GPU clock around 1730-1800 mhz. When going up to 170W from 115W, your GPU is finally able to hit the 2000 range.

Going from 170W onwards only gives small benefits, as now, microstutters are reduced if the voltage and clock doesn't keep dropping when it keeps hitting momentary TDP limits and getting bumped downards then back upwards again. The main problem is that you are basically clock speed limited by the silicon voltage limit. In order to gain large benefits going above 170W, you would need to increase the max voltage by 100mv, which you can't on Pascal laptop cards (at least until someone finds out how to do it). And the Pascal throttling -13 mhz system doesn't help matters.

 

I was wonderig if you can share your software? I do seem to have very odd bugs here and there, I think the driver of my CH341A is messed up or outdated.

 

Link in description here: hopefully still active.

That driver/program package has worked for me flawlessly for 2 yrs

 

Tried those, but refused to work for me. Idk why, but something doesn't want to work with the 1060. I can read and write fine on the 880M, 980M but the 1060 is being annoying.

 

Problem reading, programming, and/or verifying?

 

I think I figured out what is causing this. Hold on. I'll update.

 

Make sure you are running the software as admin and sit the connector to the bios chip well so that it detects the chip.

 

Seems that the CH341A doesn't support the chip on the GTX 1060N. It simply cannot read it 100% and isn't in the supported list.

Which Bios chip do you have?

 

The winbond chip for mshybrid on my gtx 1070 didnt come up on the supported list unlike the MXIC chip for the discrete mode, but I used a similar model which had same characteristics and the flash worked. So am not sure that is your problem.

But you have to be really delicate with these things, dont want to make the wrong flash and brick your card.

 

I already bricked it couple of times due to the programming, but unbricked it with blind flash.

can you give me the exact number of your chips?

 

My GTX1070 pulls 136 watts maximum in HWinfo. So how many watts is my GPU?


I think there are only 115/150/200 watt versions.

 

@tps3443 Probably 125 watts.
I saw posts that i THINK were about 125 watt 1070's before. I can't give you the post or if my memory is correct but I do remember discussion about some 1070's having slightly than higher TDP.

How about you dump your vbios and post it here? Then we'll know for sure, assuming the Pascal editor can open it.
Can you dump it with GPU-Z ? I think even NVflash can dump vbioses (Don't know how).

 

If I mailed you my laptop could you do the 150 watt flash for me? And I could pay for the service?

Ill try to upload the bios with NVflash. GPU-Z does not let me copy the bios. It just says error, this device does not support this feature.

 

@tps3443 mailed me?

your laptop has a soldered video card right? (not MXM)?
TBH I wouldn't mind doing it, but I don't want to take that risk of having something damaged.
And it's very easy to accidentally damage something on a laptop you've never worked on before. Clevos and MSI's are rather easy to service. Others, not so much. Although some of the Alienwares have accessible vbios chips. Though you still have to disassemble stuff...

For one, we don't even know where the vbios chip is. if it's on the front or backside of the mainboard. Nor whether heatsinks would have to be removed. And with the metal bar in my spine, I wouldn't want to deal with a complete disassembly. If you lived locally I wouldn't mind stopping by and seeing if I could help. But I don't want to risk damaging something. Plus you have to make sure that the editor even supports your vbios. Not every vbios is supported.

TBH you're much better off doing it yourself. It's not hard at all. You already know the parts you need to buy:

1) skypro programmer
2) 1.8v adapter
3) male to female wire jumper cables
4) Pomona 5250 clip.

That's all you need.

wires: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LZF1ZSZ/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_7?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3KL3JVC9E1BY6
(may be possible to find a set like this that isnt an add-on order set. It wasn't add-on order last year). You use the male to female to connect the Pomona 5250 clip to the 1.8v adapter (and wire it in order pin 1 to pin 8, counterclockwise (obvious when you see the markings on the adapter, which are always labeled).
Here's another: https://www.amazon.com/Elegoo-EL-CP...rd_wg=cqSLu&psc=1&refRID=NYC5Z2TB5GPCV5MJ6SDE

Pomona clip:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HHH65T4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

skypro programmer:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DZC36GY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

1.8v adapter:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072KYK2DR/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


First get your vbios dumped and uploaded here.

 

Hello everybody,

can someone help me with programming the MX25U8033E chip with Ch341A with clip !? I have the latest version of CH341A 1.34. Unfortunately, a mysterious mistake occurs.
In the program only MX25U8035 is recognized, if one "detect" and when reading comes the error message
"Chip Main Memory with the contents are disagreement" !!!
Does anyone know what to do?

Thanks!

 

I forget to say to programe an MX2508033E from GTX1080 Clevo!

 

That's when you click "verify" yes?

I got that error if I wrote to the chip without erasing it first. Given the readback gave different contents to what was just written I doubt it would have been functional

After erasing first, the flashing went fine on my 1080s.

 

This is 1.8V chip, not the standard 3.3V chip, you will need a 1.8V adapter or change to a better programmer.

Recommended Programmer Choose MX25V8006E manually
1.8 ADAPTER (optional. only for GZUT Programmers)

 

I don't know for certain if my 1080s are the same vbios chip as those, or if somehow my CH341A is set to 3.3V or voltage autodetect or whatever, but they programmed just fine (after erasing first)

 

Yes, i know that MX25U8033E is 1,8V! I have the adapter!
And another question is: I compared my Vbios with the one from the internet and found that the Vbios-Rom is shorter than that at Techpowerup. Now the question for you, normally the SPI can read out the whole Vbios-Rom or ??? Why is my saved Vbios-Rom shorter than downloadable?

 

Length is never consistent even for the same card. The stock vbios I was using compared to the latest vbios I could find was different in size but they still work.

Sent from my BKL-L09 using Tapatalk

 

I probably did not express myself correctly! The downloadable Vbios has a head that goes to 9FF! All GTX1080 Vbios have a head that is almost the same in most cases and always goes as far as 9FF. From A00 the actual Vbios starts. In addition, with the SPI device only read from A00. The head seems to be something else! Maybe just a digital signature before flashing.

 

I know some people who just can't program 1.8V with CH341A.
They ended up buying a better programmer which supports it.

 

I have tested the CH341A with 1,8v! So many errors read/erase and so on. Its terrible....
Why sell the 1.8v if it does not work properly!

 

And DreamPro3/DreamPro2 just supported and worked correctly?

 

yes, scroll all the way down to the supported list, it says it supported 1.8V chips

 

Is the Dream Pro 3 the rigth solution? Its the best programmer?

 

That's why you buy the Skypro and a 1.8v adapter.
Zero problems if you keep things simple.
Why cheap out on programmers?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DZC36GY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072KYK2DR/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HHH65T4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EV70C78/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

All you need are these.

Why no love for something which just works?

 

No. The skypro is. Check my last post.

 

Thanks. I have ordered the Skypro! I hope this works fine.....

 

No problems with mine. Software is easy to use and fewer bad english (Disagreement???) translations than that CH programmer. Didn't bother updating the software for months. The Skypro II had a few buggy updates in software but that should have been fixed.

 

What is the different between Skypro and skypro2? I have ordered skypro(not Skypro2) in your link...

 

What is the different between Skypro and skypro2? I have ordered skypro(not Skypro2) in your link...

 

Can you post a foto from 1.8v-adapter from skypro.
I already have the adapter and saw exactly the same PCB and NXP ALVC 164245 on Amazon!

 

There are a few different alterations of this model, i'm using something like skypro as well.
mine is called EZP_Xpro

 

Ok I modded my GTX 1070 to 230W but I'm afraid to go past 206W (137%) on the slider.

Because boom. Too afraid of being forced to buy the P870 TM1 with an 8700K and 1080 before the 1180 MXM Nvidia card and the 8 core 9700K BGA Killer comes out.

@Vistar Shook @Papusan @Mobius 1 @bennyg

 

Think the 9700K will require a chassis redesign from Clevo. The TM1 is already pushing it in terms of heatsink capability.

 

Well me and brother @Papusan will be the first two people on NBR to own one.
We're going to be 8 core brothers stomping the BGA turds in cinebench!

 

I have already worked with SKYPRO and found the following: The first byte is set to flashing the MX25U8033E 00 byte byte value although in Vbios (original) is a 55 byte value. does anyone know the problem? Do I have to change a setting in the programmer?

 

@radolf, Using this tool if your Vbios doesn't start with 55AA it will remove everything before the 55AA area. This normally means the IFR Header area so it might have something to do with that.

Have you tried dumping the original Vbios from the system and seeing if that does the same just to confirm what i have put above ?

 

The original bios has a header before the value 55 AA. I mean the bios what you can download! The original Bios which is read out with the SKYPRO starts from the value 55 AA! Yes, I compared both and apparently everything is always deleted before the value 55 AA!

 

Don't change anything. If the skypro reports an error or a validation error when erasing, just do it again (might be a bad read). The only thing that should happen is the window that says 1.8v adapter is required when you press 'detect.'. Then just press "Auto" and let it do its thing.

If you get a black screen however, just reflash the backup bios directly. The skypro shouldnt change anything. Maybe I should be quiet. I saw this 55AA thing mentioned before.....

 

205W TDP:

 

I do not want to change anything! There is no error reported! I just noticed that the value 55 can not be written with SKYPRO. The value is always set to 00!

 

Links?