Mobile Pascal TDP Tweaker Update and Feedback Thread

I don't think changing from 19200 to 16200 will change anything (except make the video card throttle more when on battery power, but this depends on your vbios itself) but please let me know. SPI flashing repeatedly is too much for me because the vbios chip is underneath the MXM card, which means i have to repaste with liquid metal every time too.

 

haha,you must have a Integrated module，my heatsink is single , so i only need take down the heatsink and card togather.
but i need remove my liquid-cooling,which link pape full of water.
i don't know the 19200 is whether safe to the card for long time,so i want take it to default.do you have any advice?

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Based on what you've shown there I'd probably run it at your 170W +150 +500. It's always a good idea to run a max overclock in terms of increasing the Mhz sliders because it makes the card run more efficiently - you're using a higher frequency at a lower voltage, so you're getting more bang for your Watt! That 170W +150 +500 seems to be the most efficient setting, and won't put as much stress on your card as the other higher 185W & 200W versions.

 

I want to get 21000 graphical score of fs1.1 or more.
do you have any advice?
thanks.

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Well, all you can do is tweak your vBIOS like you've been doing (I can't comment on that as I have no direct experience), and also overclock to your max stable frequencies on both core & VRAM (which you're already doing), plus making sure your GPU is running as cold as possible (I think you said you're water-cooled so you have that already under control) - so you're already doing everything you can I think. EDIT: I get 21100 score in the graphics score on Firestrike with a desktop GTX 1070, and you've got more cuda cores in your laptop version so you should be able to match mine as long as the GPU is stable & you're not power throttling. My GPU core runs at 2050Mhz during testing, and the VRAM is at 2285Mhz according to GPUz (292.5 GB/s bandwidth). In order to match my score, you won't need to run quite as high core Mhz because you have more cuda cores, but if you have lower VRAM Mhz then you might need to run a higher core Mhz to make up for the decreased bandwidth - either way you can only tweak your card as high as it wants to go, and then it won't go any higher, silicon lottery.

 

what is your power as you get 21100 score?
i can't oc to 2050,it will crash.
Is my crad a little bad in quality?

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it's a desktop.

 

i have only 20000 graphical score of firestrike 1.1 at most while the temperature is under 50 c (liquid-cooling).i am sad.

 

VRM's are extremely important for GPU's
Sadly notebook VRM's are trash compared to desktop cards. You won't ever get to desktop level when we talk about overclocking.

 

@Coolane @Falkentyne
they can take 21000+,even 22000+ score.
their cards are same with mine , which is msi 1070 ver1.2.

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As Danishblunt said, I'm using a desktop card so the limitations aren't always the same. My GPU has a max allowable power of 265W, but it never uses that much, the most it uses in Firestrike is a hair over 200W, but that's only for brief moments, but in Graphics Test 1 of Firestrike Extreme it will use 198W on average if I let it loop that Graphics Test - this is at a clockspeed of 2050Mhz and a voltage of 1.05V. Those voltages & Mhz and Watts might give you an idea of where you are with your card, but there are differences in power delivery components that mean you might not be able to replicate the same settings. You have water cooling, so your cooling sounds like it's not the limitation. You might be limited in the quality of the power delivery & the quality of the silicon (the well known silicon lottery when it comes to overclocking). You probably also have lower clocked VRAM (I mentioned what I'm running at in my previous post), so you probably have a lower VRAM bandwidth, which doesn't help your score.

 

how i see my vram?can i look up it in gpuz? or on chipset of vram.

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Yes, you can see VRAM bandwidth in GPUz on the 'front page'.

 

it is 294.7
what is yours?

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Ha, that's 2GB/s higher bandwidth than mine! Ok, so VRAM bandwidth is not a problem. You just have to do what you can in terms of a max core overclock. If you can get a stable 2000Mhz (actual frequency reported by sensors in sensor graph of GPUz) on the core during a benchmark you would almost definitely beat my Firestrike Graphics Score due to the fact the laptop GTX 1070 has more cores than the desktop GTX 1070. EDIT: you have 6% more cores on yours so actually a core of 1950Mhz should be enough to beat mine and get 21100+.

 

Is there a way to enable eDP in a MXM card that does not have it enabled?

Please see this post:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/m17x-r4-with-gtx-1080-gddr5x-8gb.822707/page-14

Regards!

 

That's tricky, you would need to check the right pins on the MXM are live, then it would be a case if they are that you would need to mod the vbios.

 

Hello Guys.
So.. I own a Clevo laptop with GTX 1070... Subvendor Clevo/Kapok Vendor GPU code is GP104 rev A1 with bios version 86.04.2A.00.0F
I suffer from an issue where i get power throttling while using 2 displays (one on the laptop and one desktop) causing both displays to flicker and display artifacts. Also there is much powerthrottling on more demanding games like Escape from tarkov or even on csgo with over 144 fps
I found a guy that runs a hardware repair shop and owns some of SPI programmers. My question is which chip contains my Vbios on the board and which hardware should we use to flash it. Im heading to his office on monday and it would be great if someone could help me out with this as im fed up with this laptop throttling and stuff ;/

 

If you're unsure and the guy with the shop is as well, I would strongly recommend finding someone else who can look at your notebook before you break it. We already had a person here who broke his MSI notebook.

 

The thing is i know this guy fixes stuff...including desoldering whole chips. I just want to give him info to speed up that whole process. I already know he should use 1.8v adapter. I know my laptop well enough but not that good to know its pcb thats why im asking. Im kinda confident in this guys knowledge. Its just a matter of double checking everything
i doubt that i will find someone experienced with this kind of stuff near my place of living. I mean i can drive even 300km to get there and pay for his/her help it will fix that darn throttling

 

How about you start telling us what notebook you have and what power supply you own. That itself might be very helpful. Also what CPU you're running with.

 

Right away
I own Clevo p670rs-g 17.3" notebook powered with I7 6700HQ, GTX 1070 8gb VRAM ,MB P65_67RSRP. 250gb SATA3 ssd, 250 m2 ssd 1xhdd, 16gb 2133mhz DDR4 ram
PSU ADP-230EB T 230W

Currently gpu power throttles at 115wats, according to TDP tweaker.

 

I would not do a higher TDP if I were you.
I've seen many P6xx notebooks which died because of TDP modding. It seems the notebook cannot handle much more than 115W on the GPU.

 

An undervolt and tuning to the power limit is the best option.

 

So apparently my MSI GTX 1060 has a 78W TDP which explains why the clocks are always fluctuating so much.

Does enabling the slider using this tool and allowing it to increase higher work? Or should I just fixed the TDP higher to like 100W?

My friend is getting a programmer soon and I wanna get this thing higher.

 

Before doing the mod, I'd recommend making sure the cooling is proper, since 100WTDP does stress out the VRM's more and makes the card warmer. If you run the card at high temps it will trigger to downclock itself and you'll be back at square one.

Also you might not be that lucky to just flash a new version onto the card. I had tremedious difficulties myself flashing that specific card.

 

@Danishblunt did the flasher error or did the chip not match the flash?

 

Do you know of any other official MSI vBIOS for 1060 that have a higher TDP already? That would be easier to flash since it wouldn't require a programmer.

 

Idk if you can cross-flash vBIOSes from other vendors, but the 1060 in 8th gen AW and Clevo systems have the OC vBIOS, which is 88W instead of 78W.

 

DId not match etc.

@ssj92 Nope, the card is made for 78W also Prema advised against crossflashing BIOSes because it would destroy cards, so you probably don't want to do that either. Honestly the difference would maybe be around 10%, it's not worth destroying your card over. Couple of people here destroyed their cards already, 1 even deleted his account out of frustration of his dead GT 73 VR.

 

Before power flashing it's worth looking at the VRM and getting a sense of what it is capable of.

 

This is the card I have:

 

@ssj92
I have such a card worked at 140W

 

How much of a performance difference did you see?

 

Any benchmarks? ( хоть какие-нибудь, для сравнения со стоком )

 

Your image compression makes the chips very hard to read, it's 3 phase with doubled VRMs.

 

VRM are such as at 1070 CSD87350Q5D

Unfortunately, there are no screenshots and confirmations (

found my old record
msi 1060 stuck max 140W TDP 3Dmark Time Spy (graphick score 4400point )
Coolane Thank You
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ker-update-and-feedback-thread.806161/page-95

 

Can you link that score? I cannot find any setup with your specs that ever got 4400

 

Danishblunt

Unfortunately not (

 

So whats stopping you from running benchmark real quick?

Maybe just run firestrike?

 

Danishblunt
why do you think fast ...
the video card lived at 140W in 3 months playing toys worked.
Speaking exactly, the video card was in F5 Tornado

 

so it's dead now?

 

Danishblunt
do you think i would gotovit man that 1060 can keep 140W after she died? ))))
1060 is alive and working with a friend in a laptop.

 

just wondering since I asked you to benchmark the card and you seem to have trouble doing so, hence I assumed its dead. So why no benchmarks? Whats stopping you from doing it?

 

Hello, Im a noob when it comes to NvFLASH and TDP tweaker. I have a dell 7577, with a 1060maxq and a 7300HQ. Is there a way to increase the TDP/power limit and or flash the Vbios? I have been messing around with MSI Afterburner V/F curves and undervolting but i haven't seen too much improvement. Please LMK if you need any information or want to see my V/F curve with log.

 

Also using NVIDIA profile inspector as well

 

without a programmer nothing will be possible of that sort for you.

 

Since it's going to be part of the BIOS it becomes more of being able to extract the BIOS and insert the new Vbios into it. Generally not recommended playing with power targets too much on that class of machine.

 

The OP says that this tool doesn't work with Coffee Lake but I've used it, modified the Vbios on my 1070 and now wondering if I'm going to break it if I try to flash - anyone with an R5 AW17 had success increasing their tdp on these machines?

The output/modded vbios file was the same size as the original I extracted (233K) but when I tried to compare that or the unmodded vbios I get errors.

The reason I want to up the TDP is at the moment I can't push the GPU past 64C and I would be fine with at least another 15C on top as my CPU regularly hits 90C even when I'm using it alone (as opposed to pushing both).

I realise if I up the GPU it will affect the overall cooling but I'm looking to push the GPU ALONE (computational) and in these cases I'm getting power throttling whilst the GPU sits around 54C which seems like a huge waste of available headroom.

 

you need to flash using hardware tool, it's a mismatch because of the security present in the bios file is invalid when you modify it