Mobile Pascal TDP Tweaker Update and Feedback Thread

I would be really careful pulling 270W from the MXM port
Specially for extended duration's.

In other new Joedirt, pretty much confirmed what was has been speculated for months now -

http://www.overclock.net/t/1621789/pascal-bios-editor-any-news/100#post_26203618

 

how did you get an unlocked power limit @Coolane?

 

Yes the pins on the connector will be getting mighty warm at that draw.

 

That's why I nominated to go for only the stock desktop 1070 settings.

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Yes, only stock settings compared to a board that gets a 75W slot and a high gauge 8 pin connector

 

Right, I only had the courage of loading it for just one minute,
The price is getting quite decent, maybe you can get one for your DM1 and play some hard voltage mod:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NVidia-GTX-...8960727&pid=100005&rk=5&rkt=6&sd=112144267554

Maybe a better way to cope with that is to have more people working on it together. It's rather difficult for one or two individual to handle the maze(encryption?) set by giant company.

 

I just set the power values higher in the app. Not recommended though, I was risking of burning my card/motherboard...
It's safer to stay below 180~200W.

 

Damn thats a great freaking price!!!
Beats the price someone else gave by more than half. Obviously not going to name that person. xD

I might pick one up next month.

 

Oh OK. I'll probably run some benches with the stock vbios and a modded vbios to see if the extra power is bumping up the scores in 3Dmark. But will do that on the weekend.

I have a feeling that it is but i might do a proper test with same clocks and driver versions but the only difference is the TDP.

DO IT! DO IT! DO IT! DO IT! DO IT! DO IT! DO IT! DO IT! DO IT! DO IT!
If I had the money I'd by 2 and test SLI but I'd rather save it for other things.

 

Here's the thing... i dont need it.. like... at all.

 

true, but it's cool LOL

 

Next to 2 x 1080's and a desktop with 2 x 1080Ti's. No its not.

 

it's cool for what can be fit into the P870DM-G. I would love a 1080 but they don't fit cos some idiot thought it was a good idea to change the placement of the GPU die.

 

so wait, the GPU is running at max clocks all the time? even when on the desktop?

EDIT: the closest I can get is 1999.5MHz....so essentially 2GHz.

 

Two overclocked 1070 can have 60 MH/s hashrate in combine, it will be cool to do coin mining on a mobile device.

 

$200 per month, seems awfully low haha. But that is definitely a lot of people would benefit from. Specially if they are running multiple rigs. And this would explain the sudden Crypto Craze and the rise in GPU prices.

 

Better than $0.

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Matter of perspective

 

It means that you have a separate mining rig and gaming rig... Mining while playing: win-win

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Probably not enough for living, maybe it just help make up the fund to upgrade the rig itself after a year or two.
AMD cards are hard to buy now because of their relatively high hashrate, I heard even the 290 and 390X have their values raised up, crazy.

 

Maybe I should just make the P870DM1-G a mining machine and buy a new clevo laptop LOL

 

I do exactly this while waiting for eDP panel+cable

Memory overclock makes much more difference to hash, at stock its about 25-26 each, a +675 mem OC pushes it over 30. Long term, 112W per 1070 reported draw, 295-300W from the wall.

Plus it warms my feet a bit being the middle of winter here

 

Still gonna put one into the P870DM-G? what's the status of the mobo?

 

Did any of you guys test the --J or -j parameter in NVflash?

 

Amazing. I will try this on 15R3 and update.

 

Seems like the "-j" can't be recognized by the newer version of the nvflash. T_T

 

Hey guys if you're still here:

I bought these items:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DZC36GY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015W4PKR6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

But the first two arrive Sunday. And the 1.8v won't arrive until WEDNESDAY......
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01GFMYICM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Um.....yeah.
When I get the actual 1.8v adapter, do I need to remove the MXM card completely from the GT73VR (which means Kryonant Repaste :/) or do I just have to remove the heatsink to get to the chip?
I've never done anything like this before. I just hook the clips to pin 1 and the 1.8v? Any advice so I don't wind up blowing up something?

 

MSI Pascal cards have their BIOS chip-sets located on the back side of the cards, so you will need to remove the card completely from the MXM slot and flip the card over to access the chip.

Maybe during the time that you are waiting, you can checkout your programmer's website to see if you can find the instruction manual and software, so that you can start learning how to use it.

Basically you connect the programmer with a secondary PC through USB cable, plug in the 1.8v adapter on top of the programmer (beware of position). Then insert the clip cable on the 1.8v adapter and finally clamp the chip-set on the card (I haven't used the 1.8v adapter, so maybe other users can tell you more).

The programming procedures generally contain 4 steps: erase->check blank->program(after loading vBIOS)->verify. Usually the instruction manual will guide you step by step.

 

Thank you. I have and have used the MSI ISP device to flash my monitor through VGA/DVI and also the RT809F adapter through VGA so I've done the auto/erase/blank/program/verify step before. I just never used an actual programmer that connected physically to an IC device before.

 

No problem. I think the difficult part is to connecting the chip properly. Once the software show all pins are in contact then you are good to go. Remember to backup your original rom before you erase .

In some cases, if the programmer is not very compatible with the chip-set then inline flashing will not be able to work. In that case, you will need to desolder the chip-set and put it on top of the 1.8v adapter.

 

That's the first clip i had, and it weared off so fast it didn't hang on the chip anymore after a dozen uses.
Clip/unclip it as gently as possible.

 

i'd also make sure the programmer has the chip listed as compatible. you can use NVflash to find out what chip you have....It'll probably be a winbond W25Q80EW IIRC.

Also, I checked the last 3DMark test I ran at stock clocks with my TDP bump ( http://www.3dmark.com/fs/13030496) and it goes over the average 1070 Firestrike Standard scores ( graphics: 18092) done by notebookcheck. Even without doing any overclocking, simplying changing your 1070's TDP from 115-115W to 151-170W to match will put you in the same score range as the desktop 1070 at stock and I think that's pretty cool.

This is due to, in part, the fact that the notebook 1070 has an extra set of CUDA cores along with the TDP boost.

I'd give it a shot with MXM but not with BGA.

The software for the sofi-tech sp16-b is quite good IMHO and is very easy to follow... after a bit of mucking about in the demo mode.

I'd have the stock vbios from the MSI website ready to go in case you need to flash it back. I wouldn't both doing an extract.

I personally downloaded the latest firmware from MSI and mod it with @Coolane's tool:

https://www.msi.com/Laptop/support/GT73VR-7RE-TITAN.html#down-firmware

Most of us who are going to mod it should stick to around 180W or less. Don't bother going higher unless you like using your laptop as a heater in winter.

 

I canceled the order for the other 1.8v adapter and ordered this one instead, because it will arrive faster.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072KYK2DR/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Will this work with the skypro ( https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DZC36GY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) ?

the one i canceled was this one:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01GFMYICM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_?ie=UTF8&psc=1

please tell me if i made a mistake. I don't want to blow up my video card

 

Yes it will. I have both.

Side note:
You guys really should buy a better clip than the cheap ones...You will regret it later.

 

@Johnksss@iBUYPOWER
Can you link me to one of the better clips on Amazon? (please) <3
I love you long time!

 

And a couple of these, depending on how many programmers you have.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HHH65T4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Wires to attach and make it longer.
https://www.amazon.com/Zoostliss-12...eywords=Solderless+Ribbon+Dupont+Jumper+Wires

 

You should be good to go once everything arrives.

Also, buy some extra thermal paste just in case. ICD7 or Gelid will do.

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Absolutely true. The low quality clips that I have, every time it took me awhile before I can get the pins fully connected.

 

been running with 151-170W for just over a week now and tempted to bump up the TDP to 161-180W and see how that fairs.

A Founder's Edition / reference 1070 is 151-170W and that should be enough for the majority of people who are choosing to do this. My personal limit is 200W though you'd have to be a brave as @Coolane to go higher.

 

@thegh0sts @Coolane @Mr. Fox
Hi guys i'll be getting the tools tomorrow (the higher quality clip wont arrive for like a week so I'll just use the crappy one).
Is there anything I need to otherwise know before I prepare to flash?
Will I need to remove the *CPU* heatsink to remove the MXM card (GT73VR?)
Do I have to be careful about any thermal pads?

*edit* I already have the Delta 330W PSU available so I can use the 330W instead of the 230W (the 230W came with the GT73VR *7RE*) . I don't think the 230W is going to like an overclocked 7820HK with a 170W TDP GTX 1070. I'm going to hate carrying that brick with me though

 

From the pictures found on Google, seems like you don't need to remove the CPU heat sink, since they are not connected.
It's good to disconnect the battery and wear gloves for operations.
When you lift up the GPU heat sink, be careful of the thermal pads. I remember the default greenish thermal pads in MSI laptops are kind of fragile.

You can set the default TDP at 115W and max limit at 170W in the tool. So when you are outside you can set it at 115W in Afterburner and carry the lighter 230W adapter; when you are at home, you can raise the TDP to 170W and use the 330W PSU.

 

You can try 180~200W, values referred from here: https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/192044/gigabyte-gtx1070-8192-170208
Please not blame on me or the tool if your card ever catch fire...

 

how do you adjust the power level?

Just tried 171-190 and the temps went up real high but no real appreciable difference in stock clock performance for me. Gonna go back to 151-170W. I think the initial bump is good but somewhere between 160 and 170 it's already peaked and passed the threshold for any noticeable improvement.

Stock with TDP bump: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/13078558
+150/+300 OC with TDP bump: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/13078612

 

I think you may need to remove the CPU heatsink as well cos it looks like the VRAM is being shared between the CPU and GPU.

 

No you don't have to be brave about it at all. You only need to be smart about it. Set a high limit then use the power slider to gage it at the right points. That's why they have a "slider" Default the slider to 200W but max power is set to 250W. And that's it.

 

If anyone is here,
I have a VERY VERY Serious problem!!

@Papusan @Coolane @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER @Donald@HIDevolution @thegh0sts @Mr. Fox
@Phoenix
How do I remove the MXM card from the slot?
I removed the main heatsink and the retaining screws but I have no idea how to get the card out of the slot!
I have a high resolution picture but I can't remove the card!

http://i.imgur.com/oqXGlsF.jpg

 

It looks like the heatsink is in the way. By the way I don't have your laptop, I'm just making a comment - wait till you hear from someone with the laptop!

 

Like Johnksss said, you can adjust the power in MSI Afterburner by sliding the TDP slider. If you set the TDP values in the tool with 151~200W and check "adjustable", then you can raise the TDP in Afterburner all the way up to 200W, which is "+132".
In terms of performance gain, you might need to run heavy loaded benchmark to see improvement, such as FS Ultra.
Also, if your temp risen up too quickly, it will throttle the boost clocks a little bit more, so you will see limited performance gain afterward.

If you lower your voltage down to less than 1.00V, then 150~170W is enough. If you let your voltage free up to 1.063V, then you might find need of 180~200W.

 

You need to remove the second part of the GPU heat sink directed to the right hand side. You might need to remove the fan on the right first.
I also don't have the laptop. If you still can't remove it, maybe ask users in GT73VR forum, they know better.

 

Seems like you need to remove both the GPU and CPU heat sinks.