Mobile Pascal TDP Tweaker Update and Feedback Thread

Hey, thank you for replying!

Is there any other way i can reach my goal?Those itens are really hard to bring to Brazil, usually commom itens take more than 2 months. Third world country problems. lol

Yup, cleaned repaste it, check for a zillion drivers, rolled back God knows how many times, even formated my system.
I'm actually using conductonaut liquid metal, i was using kryonaut before that.

For what i see, the system target temp is set to 91°C, so it keeps pushing and raising voltage till it reachs the target, don´t matter what software or game I'm running. Is this right?
MSi is very vague about those informations, it only tells me that the max temp is right. I feel like i need to push a whole bunch everytime i try to take some information from them.

 

You can lock the GPU clock using MSI Afterburner, you can also undervolt it and make the curve flat so it doesn't clock any higher than what you set it to, you can lock your GPU to lets say running at 1.7Ghz at around 800mV instead of it going all the way over 1V, that will make run as cool as you want it.

Go to youtube and search for MSI Afterburner curve editor, or maybe editor de curva if you want to watch fellow brazilian folks, lots of videos to get the hang of it.

 

Thank you very much for your tips. I was aware about the curve editor and other things, i just wish there wasn't another piece of software between things. Also, when i try messing with the curve i got two results 1 - lowering values do lower clocks, but does nothing to temperature; 2 - making it flat does nothing till it reaches the point where it freezes and crash applications.
I guess I'm stuck with this bomb till being able to find a good deal on some other laptop or someone came up with a new vbios editor.
=(
Thanks anyway for trying to help me. It is really nice that we can reach out for Tuga friends even from across sea. lol

 

Probably to late here, but you do not need the 1.8V adapter when using a SkyPro programmer.

 

Really I have sky pro and always use an adaptor.

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Yes.
And I have Sky Pro 1, 2 and 3

The one on the left is a Minipro. the one on the right is a SP1

 

I take it simply changes the voltage on fly?

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Yes. 1.8V to 5.0V<-----This is incorrect.

Editing this post as after testing the pins they do in fact show 3.3V and 5.0V

 

Why does the skypro software pop up "1.8v adapter is REQUIRED" after detecting the chip?
The chip is a 1.8v. Putting 3.3v or 5v into it will fry it.

 

Mine also came up with adaptor required too for 1.8v chip. Humm might just have to get a blank to see what happens.

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That is interesting. What does your software look like?

 

It's the normal software for the skypro from coright's website. Mind you I haven't used it in over a year now ....

 

I think that's why I quite using the adapter because in the beginning with the first one I had to use it and then when I got the 2 and some update it no longer asked for the 1.8V adapter. I tested the pin 4 and 5 on idle and they do in fact show 3.3V. I do have another one that states it's 1.8V to 6.5 volts, but I never use it as it needs a pc. The skypro 2 and 3 do not need a computer to flash, but looks like the voltage is in fact 3.3V and have been flashing like that for over 3 years now, but then I also make sure not to reverse flash and fry a chip or flash using manual 5V mode. So lucky? Not sure, after it worked the first time I never looked back. (Voltage for the chip is between 1.65 and 2.0 volts so that is interesting indeed)

 

You dont really need a programmer, an Arduino can be used, or an FTDI adapter if it exposes all the pins(RX,TX, CTS, DTR), for example:
https://www.flashrom.org/Arduino_flasher_3.3v

Just needs another level shifter to bring the signals to 1.8v.

And most likely you can find the skypro in mercadolibre for sale:
https://produto.mercadolivre.com.br...cking_id=eb0b3b16-da14-4978-90ed-1c959d0fd362

A bit more expensive, but it already has all the custom fees into the price and ready to buy without headaches, that kit already provides you with the needed 1.8v adapter.

You might also message the seller and say that you only want the programmer, the level shifter and the soic clip(in brazilian it means that you want Gravador De Eprom, pinça jacaré e adaptador 3.3v para 1.8v) he might make you that bundle instead so its cheaper and you dont end buying thing you wont use.

And I find it strange that lower clocks(and lower voltages) dont lower the temperatures. And making it flat shouldn't make it crash, at all. Lots of people on this forum use the curve editor with flats to limit the clock/voltage and they dont experience crashes.

 

HI

Currently looking for official vbios for full mobile gtx 1050 10DE version to reflash the maxq version of the card.

My backup is 166KB

If someone could provide vbios that would be great, as my current vbios 10de 1c92 not recognized by latest tdp tweaker.

Thanks

EDIT ---> In attachement there is my stock GTX1050 MAX Q VBIOS ( 10DE 1C92 - 1462 126C ) so maybe @ Coolane could take a look or someone experienced with vbios hex editing

 

Does PascalTDP Tweaker 1.21 require me to modify the HEX value?

 

Which chip is the VBios for the Alienware 13 R1?

 

I have my Skypro Programmer, Panama 5250 SOIC Clip, 1.8V adapter.

Can I just flash my TDP modified bios without editing the hex code values?

Pascal TDP Tweaker says 1.21 automatically fixes the Hex values. Will I be ok?






@Falkentyne

 

Could someone walk me through how to spi flash, wilWill tip greatly if you wouldn't mind remoting into my laptop and teaching me along the way. As you flash my card

Please remove if not allowed.

 

The aw13 r1 has no pascal card. You can flash this with nvflash.

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@tps3443 the pascal editor will correct the hex for you automatically,

Insure you have PIN1 on the bios chip matching pin one on the programmer, dump the original vbios 3 times and then run a checksum on each of the 3 dumps, this is to make sure your connection to the vbios chip is good and also will serve as a backup should you have issues.

After doing the 3 dumps and checksums match only then flash the vbios with the modded firmware.

@dellienware owner SPI Programming is relatively easy so longs as your using the SPI Programmer and the 1.8v adaptor, with PIN1 on the VBIOS chip matching Pin one on the programmer its relatively painless.

If both of you are unsure of where PIN 1 is on the bios chip look for a bimple on the chip it will be a small circle dent that is pin 1. Do not use the little paint marker as PIN1 location marker.

Here is an example of finding pin one.



You should see a little dent like in the image above that is pin 1.

 

Thanks for the helpful information

 

Does Mobile Pascal TDP Tweaker v1.2.1.0 works with TM version of gtx 1080? (TM vbios)

 

Hey, everyone! So, it went well for me and I successfully uploaded a modded vBIOS to my 1070. Just used a simple EZP2019+ chinese programmer with 1.8v adapter and a clip. It was kinda flimsy, 'cause it didn't read correctly on the first couple of tries, since the clip had connectors too far away from the tip. But after some time, I found a good position for it and it went well. Going to test the good TDP to clock to temperature ratio and hope for the best!

 

Ok, so far, I couldn't see a stable performance under heavy load if I have my wattage around 150 and more. Don't know yet, what is happening, but the laptop just keeps shutting down completely after some tries. I don't have a hungry CPU either, so power delivery shouldn't be a problem.

 

Whats the wattage your psu can deliver?

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It's the default one, 330W. I have a i5-8600k, that usually eats around 100W.

 

Ok, I think the issue is solved. It was due to the nature of random voltage spikes. Found it, cause sometimes, just when application was starting, it crashed the whole system. When I put a more flat curve into MSI afterburner, it didn't crash for hour or so. Will collect more data for now. I found that different vBIOS (the one that has higher clocks from factory) behaves much calmer in terms of switching voltages between different clocks.

 

I bought an MSI 1060 which I didn't know had gsync. My lcd is not gsync, it's a 120 hz edp1080p panel. Anyways, card is working great but I am getting a black screen. External outputs work and windows/ Nvidia control panel all see the LCD and it's various modes perfectly. The card is not throwing a code 43 error and when I drop my old 980m back in the LCD works so it isn't broken.

I dumped the bios and got 55 aa for my bios header so that shouldn't be the issue. I also updated the gop to the latest version per my coffee lake bios notes and that didn't help either.

I am about out of ideas at this moment. Card seems to be working great other than this dumb LCD issue

 

Managed to find a different version of nvflash and got the non gsync bios to flash. That outputs to the LCD but throws a code 43 error and the gsync version doesn't flash with it

 

What notebook are you using? And what "vendor" card have you bought?

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Got past the code 43. Found a post that said drivers newer than 375.50 throw the code 43 error which turned to be true from what I can tell. Any way to get drivers newer than that without having to allow unsigned drivers with an inf mod?

 

Are older drivers work properly?

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Yep those 375.50 drivers work fine but just are old. Trying to get some newer ones going now. Found a repack driver but had no luck with those

 

Whats about inf modding a newer driver? Still 43?

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Same thing with newer drivers. Looks like much newer than 378.x makes it throw the code. Trying out the 376 Vulcan beta drivers to at least get that. It's be nice to get ray tracing and newer drivers.

The inf modded ones I tried installed right but did the same

 

Lol. Forget ray tracing on 1060. Even 1080ti cant handle that

 

Oh I know it can't do it well, just wanted to **** around with it lol

 

Is Mobile Pascal TDP Tweaker works for Clevo RTX 2080 in P775TM1?

 

I don't believe so, updates I think were posted in the OP

 

I have read the updates but unfortunately there is no information what versions of RTX supports TDP Tweaker.
I thought maybe someone had already tried to upload to Clevo cards, that's why I'm asking.

 

Has the error 43 in device manager been solved with modded turing cards?

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You need to try it by yourself

 

No thanks , I don't want to burn my GPU

 

you can't burn your card, they are too well protected

 

Prema wrote that the power section gets very hot after exceeding 150W TDP in Clevo cards. And it can burn.

 

a 6/8 phases vrm overheat with only 150W ? are they at least cooled ?

 

Depends what is the resistance of the inductors used, as well as the RDSon of the MOSFETS used in the VRM's.

At 950mV (more or less), you end with 150/0.95 = 158 Amps.
158/6 phases = 26.3Amps per phase.

The MOSFETs used in the Pascal MXM cards wont be much better, if not the exact same part as the ones used in the Maxwell GPUs, and those(CSD87350Q5D) claim a best case scenario of 90% efficiency at 25Amps, while dissipating 9Watts(total combined of the power loss in the MOSFET and in the inductor), it gets worse with rising temps, as is expected, because RDSon as a positive tempco.

Make that times 6 and you are dissipating 6*9 = 54Watts on the VRM's alone, you are lucky if your heatsink has one shared heatpipe over the VRM area, and one long shared heatpipe wont have the capability to remove 54Watts of power, thats why they might/can overheat if you go above 150Watts TDP.

 

Not that it ultimately contradicts your speculation about insufficient VRM cooling, but your calculations of 9W per FET are way off, your starting point should be 4W power loss at 25A (>95% efficiency) and that is an overestimate as the better operating conditions on the GPU board compared with the Datasheet charts (lower Vout, and Tj) will bring power loss down further

I def know I have these powering my P870DM3 mainboard running a 9900K (Vcore, 4 phase doubled) and assuming a 250W load, my calculations had these fets running very close to their recommended spec and nowhere near any peak or maximum operating condition. In the end the analysis was moot as the firmware safety limit is somewhere around 170W.

 

hi please
does anyone know this hw mod for msi 1070 ????? it should be 150w ,but still need any ec mod ? this official frst beta card ,thanks for any info
unfortunately I can't get a programmer, but this can be done