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    Mobile Pascal TDP Tweaker Update and Feedback Thread

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Coolane, Jun 20, 2017.

  1. TheQuentincc

    TheQuentincc Notebook Evangelist

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    Indeed, that's why there is a disclaimer about it on github, you first need to make sure your laptop and/or cooling is enough to wistand the extra heat on the core as well as the vrm.
     
  2. Aorus X5-V7

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    This doesn't seem to be such a simple problem. Even assuming that the core and VRM can withstand the extra heat sufficiently, the overcurrent will destroy the capacitor. Haven't there been many reports on this forum where capacitors were destroyed by modifying the TDP?
     
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  3. seanwee

    seanwee Father of laptop shunt modding

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    Yeah well the caps used in laptops are the same ones as the ones used in high end aftermarket desktop gpus (most just use through hole capacitors), and nobody has ever destroyed a capacitor even when doing extreme overclocking on those.

    Long story short, the capacitors are irrelevant. Just make sure the Vrms are cooled well enough and you're set.
     
  4. Aorus X5-V7

    Aorus X5-V7 Notebook Guru

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    That's good news. Thanks for reply.
     
  5. Aorus X5-V7

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    Do I need to purchase an infrared thermometer to measure the temperature of the VRM?
     
  6. seanwee

    seanwee Father of laptop shunt modding

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    That wont give you an accurate reading. Your best bet would be k-type thermocouples in between the vrms and the thermal pads.
     
  7. Aorus X5-V7

    Aorus X5-V7 Notebook Guru

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    k-type thermocouples? I have never heard of it. May be my brain doesn't reach the knowledge you have. But thanks for answering me. Is it impossible to guess the temperature of the VRM through software? Even if it is not the correct value, I can be satisfied. I just need to be able to get rough enough information to determine if my laptop's cooling solution is sufficient.
     
  8. TheQuentincc

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    The last (and only) time I blowed up capacitor it was on a crappy GTX260 with a vmod at 1.35v and burning hot capacitor :eek:
    K-Type thermocouples require a "special" thermometer to use, you can find one of theses on ebay for less than 5 bucks
     
  9. seanwee

    seanwee Father of laptop shunt modding

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    Well its what gamers nexus uses for their testing

    http://www.meter-depot.com/scientif...r-1-k-type-thermocouple-and-stainless-sensor/

    I can take a look if you provide a picture of the cooling system.
     
  10. Aorus X5-V7

    Aorus X5-V7 Notebook Guru

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  11. cuneyt1984

    cuneyt1984 Notebook Consultant

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    [​IMG]
    Hi guys, are these tools enough? I also want to write a modified vbios. My notebook is MSI GT72VR 6RE. There are 1070 GTXs. Power Adapter is 230 Watt.What should be the power limit for Vbios.
     
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  12. hacktrix2006

    hacktrix2006 Hold My Vodka, I going to kill my GPU

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    All them parts are correct apart from the SOIC8 test clip, which you should get a CPT 063 Test SOIC8 Pomona 5250 with some male to female cables such as
    https://cpc.farnell.com/pro-signal/psg-jmp150mf/jumper-cables-m-f-150mm-pk10/dp/SC13050

    Or similar to it.

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  13. TheQuentincc

    TheQuentincc Notebook Evangelist

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  14. hacktrix2006

    hacktrix2006 Hold My Vodka, I going to kill my GPU

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    I have the test clip shown in the picture and I have always had issues with it, whilst the one I linked can be clipped on and left to it's devices without risk to little SMD's next to the vbios chip, hence my suggestion.

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  15. Z3us_PL

    Z3us_PL Notebook Consultant

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    Hello does Mobile Pascal TDP Tweaker works with dekstop GTX 1070 cards? Do I have to use the programmer like in laptop versions of cards or nvflash is enough?
     
  16. hacktrix2006

    hacktrix2006 Hold My Vodka, I going to kill my GPU

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    Mobile Pascal TDP Tweaker v1.1.0.0 , point 7) Support desktop Pascal vBIOS (experimental; 1060, 1070, 1080, and 1080Ti only) this was disabled in version Mobile Pascal TDP Tweaker v1.1.3.0 .

    However it doesn't clearly state it was re-enabled after that, so you can try it out but just make sure you have 3 backups (3 Seperate reads via the programmer and save each file) then do a checksum to make sure they match then give it a whirl.

    However if its a desktop GPU, you could always use a shunt mod (which is normally what people do on desktop GPU's), but each to their own.
     
  17. Z3us_PL

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    ok, thx, but can I use nvflash?
     
  18. hacktrix2006

    hacktrix2006 Hold My Vodka, I going to kill my GPU

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    No, its not possible to use NVFlash to flash modified vbioses as nvidia forced a requires a cert from nvidia requirement.
    So the only way to flash a new modified vbios is to use a Hardware USB Programmer.

    To which all parts required are in this forum thread.
     
  19. phen0menal

    phen0menal Newbie

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    Can't seem to hardware flash my modded vbios onto my MXM Quadro P5000 because of some stupid write protection on the chip. Anyway to get around that with the GQ-4X Software at all or do I need to buy another programmer?
     
  20. senso

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    Remove the chip from the card, the WP pin might be hardwired.
     
  21. Aorus X5-V7

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    Hey guys, the Mobile pascal tdp tweaker doesn't seem to support the RTX 2070 Super mobile. How do I change the TDP on Super mobile?
     
  22. hacktrix2006

    hacktrix2006 Hold My Vodka, I going to kill my GPU

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    Shunt mod might be the only way Auros X5-V7.

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  23. Aorus X5-V7

    Aorus X5-V7 Notebook Guru

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    Thanks for the reply, friend. By the way, I no longer use the Aorus X5-V7. I am now getting ready for my new laptop. Its name is "L9T27S". The GPU of L9T27S is RTX 2070 Super Mobile.

    And the good news is that the L9T27S is a model with Intel's built-in graphics. With the laptop's MUXED technology, I can switch between internal and external graphics as I want.

    In other words, even if my external graphics card is a brick, I can restore the external graphics by activating the internal graphics. :D

    I am now ready to modify vbios to my heart's content without fear. ;)

    But one problem is, the mobile pascal tdp tool doesn't seem to support 2070 SUPER mobile. :eek:
     
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  24. senso

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    Only way is to shunt mod.
     
  25. phen0menal

    phen0menal Newbie

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    I'll have to check back with you when i'm able to get good soldering equipment to safely remove the chip. But if that doesn't work I can order another W25Q40EW off of digikey.
     
  26. Aorus X5-V7

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    What is this? Header Section? What Happens When I Select "Remove"? Does this really work to fix Black Screen?
     

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    hacktrix2006 Hold My Vodka, I going to kill my GPU

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    There is no point vbios modding a RTX2070 Super with the pascal tool, the only way you can TDP mod that card is via a Shunt mod.

    Also the Black screen fix removes a header called IFR and should only be used on a vbios with a starting point other then 55AA, for example 4E56.



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  28. Aorus X5-V7

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    Wait, Mobile pascal tdp tweaker succeeded in detecting tdp of 2070 super mobile!
    So I changed 115W to 150W.

    Can you take a look at vbios file please?
     

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  29. senso

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    You can change it, but the card wont work again due to the new BIOS protections NVIDIA set into them, you will never get the card out of error code 43.
     
  30. Aorus X5-V7

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    Really? Nvidia's new BIOS protection? What is that? and When was it released? In other words, are you saying Mobile Pascal TDP Tweaker is useless now?
     
  31. senso

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    As already said to you countless times, you can't BIOS mod Turing aka RTX2000 series GPUs, you need to shunt mod, or at least optimize your curve using Afterburner, because there is plenty of performance to be had just by tweaking the curve.
     
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  32. cuneyt1984

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    Hi friends i did it as auto. But my video card didn't work. And gave this error. Please help me.
    2.jpg
     
  33. cuneyt1984

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    the computer was turned on but there was no picture. PLEASE HELP ME
     
  34. cuneyt1984

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    HELP ME GUYS
     
  35. hans12321

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    Please tell us the steps you did in the flashing procedure.

    Have you saved the original vbios?

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    I read the chip. This is the situation
    13.jpg
     
  38. hans12321

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    Did you set the cable right on the chip? Red pin on pin one with the little point on the ship?

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    first i set winbond 25q80ev to 1.8v. I am a GT72VR 6RE user. I pressed the Auto button. And this gave the verification error. I assembled the computer again. However, there was no picture on the screen. What should I do again, depending on the programmer now?
    The point is on the red wire.



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    Did i get that right, you just tried to dump the original vbios and that results in this error you've posted before?

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    Unfortunately i'm not familiar with this kind of programmer. I cannot tell you whether you set it up correctly on the programmer and in the software. I was using tl866 all the time.. but for me that sounds like you fried the vbios chip.

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    But if i watch both pictures the red cable wasn't connected on the pin with the paint dot.

    Edit 2:
    Was connected right.

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  45. cuneyt1984

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    The black dot isn't the red wire, so?
     
  46. hans12321

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    Argh my mistake.. haven't seen the black one on my mobile phones screen. No the black one is the right one and pin 1.

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  47. cuneyt1984

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    This image came when I pressed the test.
    16.jpg
     
  48. hans12321

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    Unfortunately i cannot help you with that as i am not familiar with this software, sorry.

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  49. senso

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    Read the chip ID, set it correctly on the software, and program a new VBIOS, because you corrupted your VBIOS, thats why there is no image.
    And if you have a TL886 why did you buy another programmer, the TL can talk to those chips, all you needed was the 1.8V adapter.

    So, what you need to do is connect the clip correctly, ID the chip correctly, and then program a new VBIOS.
     
  50. hans12321

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    The error shows up on the dump procedure. I don't think that he will have a working copy of the vbios.

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