Mobile Pascal TDP Tweaker Update and Feedback Thread

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Make sure the red cable is going from pin 1 on the adaptor and pin 1 on the vbios. Then run Detect it should work, its one of the reasons i was talking about getting the poma clip for the connection as would of been a better connection.

Once the correct chip has been detected load the rom file and then manually do erase -> flash -> verify (that is if you have already erased the vbios from the chip) else run a dump 3 times and checksum check each of the 3 to make sure they are the same so that is 3x read's and 3x save.

You mentioned in a PM that you have a GPU-Z vbios dump you can use that the reflash the vbios chip as it starts with 55AA and that should get your GPU going again.

 

The whole problem was with the soic8 cable. I fixed the tip of the clip with a utility knife. Modified vbios was flash. But there was no increase in performance. I made a target and limit of 151 watts.

How many watts do you think I should have set.

I did not change the Advanced power limit. Do you think that's why there was no increase in performance.

 

Glad to hear that you saved your GPU. The reason the performance doesn't improve even though you raise the TDP is probably because you didn't raise the core clock.

 

Hello guys, I've flashed many times with various power limits. However, it did not increase performance and gpu usage. While the temperature was maximum 79 degrees, it became 88 with the increase in power. However, performance drops have occurred. The performance increase with this program is a complete lie. Fortunately, I tried the limits without taking my graphics card apart, but it didn't help. Don't ever try. Unnecessary.



The adapter is fully used when you use it normally. In other words, nothing can be done that can increase performance.

Don't be fooled by increasing the power limit. If the power limit increases, the gpu usage decreases. Because the total adapter power used is the same.

 

Obviously many other members have increased their performance stats. Have you increased the limits in afterburner after flashing the modded vbios?

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Did you press the "Preset" button in the tweaker? Or did you simply enter a higher power limit?

Because going from 115W stock to 151W (151W target 170W max (151000-170000), at least this was how it was in the much older version of the tweaker) was good for about a 10% performance boost (tested with Valley/Heaven benchmark).

I don't know what the current version sets.
If you didn't use the preset button at all, you are going to get strange throttling as the preset "extreme power limits" settings are based on 95W-125W IIRC. Whatever you do do not key in those values manually however, but you can use the preset button values.

 

Thanks for your answers, Yes I used the old version's tweaks. It was set at 151-170 watts. Advanged power limit settings were adjusted as in gtx 1080. Temperature limits were set at 91 degrees. The problem is that for the first 10 minutes there is a 10% increase but then the cpu suddenly drops from 3.2 gh to 2.5 gh.
The resulting increase in performance is thus lost. In addition, there is an increase of 9 degrees.
Instead, a 10% increase can be achieved with normal overclocking. This way the notebook will not get hot.

 

But then performance definitely improve but there is not enough heatroom for the additional watts on your machine.

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The most consistent setting is the 125 power limit for the gtx 1070. Yes, there is a 10% performance increase. however, the temperature rises from 79 degrees to 86 degrees. When overclocking in Dragon Center, the CPU speed drops to 2.5 gh instead of 3.2 gh. So the program has no meaning.

 

Thats your opinion. For many others with bulky cooling solutions and maybe liquid metal there is definitely a consistent performance improvement.

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I got a major up lift after TDP modding my GTX 1060, Went from 9600 FS score to 11,360 FS score. @cuneyt1984 your issues is two fold, the temp your card is hitting and the fact your using Dragon Center (known to mess with UEFI bios settings for Power etc). I sent you a PM with what needs to be done.

How ever i would like to add that not all GPU's are the same so you need to experiment. A good example is with my card I have tied it at 80w, 90w, 100w, 115w, 120w, 125w and 135w TDP and my point of diminishing return is anything after 110w in fact i get better performance stability at 90w then what i did at 135w. However someone else GTX 1060 MXM module might have a point of diminishing return at a high TDP. Its the good old Silicon lottery!

 

You exceeded 230W total system power so the EC throttled the CPU. Nothing to do with the video card tweaker.
Try increasing the value in RW Everything-->EC (embedded controller) RAM---> Register E3. Raise the value in that register by 1 only. So, 10-11, or 20-21, 90-91, etc.

If you are lucky, that will switch to the GTX 1080 master power limit, which is 330W. If you are unlucky, there will not be a master 330W power limit and your CPU will throttle to 2.3 ghz.
If you are more unlucky, the CPU will throttle without power limit 2 being set (it will go directly to PL1 throttle).

Good luck.

 

Friends, I'll have a trial soon. I will inform you later.

 

I though some of you might get a kick out of this. Here's what a shunt nodded GS66 with the RTX 2070 Super Max-Q looks like. Thanks again to seanwee for all his help with the mod.

Officially broke 20000+ overall score and 24000+ graphics score in Firestrike. Highest score on the leaderboards for the RTX 2070 Super Max-Q.

GS66 Stealth

Specs:
CPU - i7-10750H (undervolted -215.7mv Core, -107.4 cache)
GPU - RTX 2070 Super Max-Q shunt modded to 115-125W and overclocked
Ram - 32gb 2666MHz dual channel (stock)

Upgrades:
CPU/GPU - repasted with Thermalright Liquid Metal Silver King
VRMs/Nand - repasted with K5 pro
VRMs - 2 extra heatpipes for cooling

Official Score:
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/23446724

Leaderboards:
https://www.3dmark.com/newsearch#ad...de=false&showInvalidResults=false&freeParams=

 

I now have the highest Time Spy graphics and overall score in the world for the RTX 2070 Super Max-Q. There is still a lot of room left to overclock the card, but I think I can just leave it here now that I have the highest score worldwide for both Fire Strike and Time Spy. I'll leave a little bit of room to play around with later on when I get the overclocking itch.

GS66 Stealth

Specs:
CPU - i7-10750H (undervolted -215.7mv Core, -107.4 cache)
GPU - RTX 2070 Super Max-Q shunt modded to 115-125W and overclocked
Ram - 32gb 2666MHz dual channel (stock)

Upgrades:
CPU/GPU - repasted with Thermalright Liquid Metal Silver King
VRMs/Nand - repasted with K5 pro
VRMs - 2 extra heatpipes for cooling

Official Score:
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/13807293

Leaderboards:
https://www.3dmark.com/newsearch#advanced?test=spy P&cpuId=&gpuId=1325&gpuCount=0&deviceType=ALL&memoryChannels=0&country=&scoreType=overallScore&hofMode=false&showInvalidResults=false&freeParams=

 

Same result happened due to adapter and Ec-firmware restriction.

 

@werdmonkey4321, great results. I was wondering if you took photos of the shunt modding process, and if so, you could share those photos here.

 

He did actually, in the GS66 thread

He later changed the resistors to lower resistance ones.

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/MSILaptops/comments/ie9l8y/shunt_modding_gs66/

Here are some extra photos. I currently have a 0.01 ohm and 0.012 ohm resistor added in parallel to the 0.005 ohm shunt resistor.

https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Panasonic/ERJ-6BWFR010V?qs=KH2o3k57USjviRNxwPI6cw==

https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Panasonic/ERJ-6BWFR012V?qs=KH2o3k57USg6Ej79OytyrQ==

 

I did a test. I drained the battery of the notebook. And I hooked the notebook to the adapter. It normally charges with 40 watts. However, when playing games, it is filling with 10 watts. I realized that the total power consumption of the system while playing games is 220 watts. In other words, the video card can get a maximum of 125 watts of power.

How is 150-170 watts used? This is impossible.

 

Due to a 330 watt power brick...

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Could someone be so nice and recommend to me a programmer to flash the 1080?????? Hopefully that can be bought on the US

 

Don't try. I broke the programmer out of anger and threw it into the garbage. No benefits. Your effort will be wasted.

 

Any cheapo skypro, 1.8v adapter and a good SOIC8 clamp style clip will do the job.

 

Stop trolling please.. buy yourself a gtx 1080 notebook if you need more out of the box performance. It's a MODIFICATION, nothing signed by nvidia to work for everybody. Your problem is the tiny power brick and maybe some firmware issues. So please stop to search the problem with that program. Without this tool there won't be any possibility other than hard mod to get more power..

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You are the troll. I have no reason to lie. If I hadn't broken the programmer, I would have to constantly disassemble the laptop for new mods.

 

I don't have a reason too. This mod helps my 1080 to a decent performance bump. But let's stop here and don't waste the thread please.

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Why having a programmer forces you to take your laptop apart?...
Lots of people have TDP modded their Pascal GPUs using the same programmer you used, its user error.

 

If you think about it, you will find it.

 

Have you also tried undervolting the CPU to compensate for the power throttling that's happening? This way at least you can somewhat maintain the performance on the CPU even though its drawing less power to compensate for the increased power draw on the GPU.

 

You only need to mod your VBIOS once, set it for 150-160W, enable adjustable power limit, then you play around with the extra power using the Afterburner curve editor to find a good voltage/clock curve and its done, want more power, use one curve, want less, use another, no need to flash the VBIOS 3 times a day..

WIth 230W and a locked CPU you have 45W for the CPU long term, give around 30W for display, RGB lights, RAM, storage, etc, and you still have 155W available for the GPU, at 150W average you can surely find more performance.
Even my 980m with Prema VBIOS touches 130W in some game sections, and I also have a 45W locked CPU and a 230W PSU and I dont experience any clock drops.

 

is this what I need?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Eeprom-Bio...345299?hash=item3fe2f06653:g:1qkAAOSwtz5dRtLv

 

Your problem is trying to mod an unsupported laptop with a cancer EC.
Only the GT73VR and GT75VR, GT75 Titan (pascal versions only) and Clevo laptops (and some alienwares) are supported and tested, because there are multiple ways to avoid the CPU power limit at 230W.

GT72VR, GT72, GT83VR, and other Pascal MSIbooks like Raider/stealth, etc, are not tested because of EC problems. If you used a supported laptop as instructed, all you would have to do is change one byte in RW Everything to avoid CPU throttle (and buy a 330W adapter on models that come with 1080 equipped versions using the same motherboard).

Since you're now trolling, I'm not going to help you further but I will say 1 more piece of advice:
Try reducing Imon slope and Imon offset in VR Settings.

This is what my 1070 can draw without throttling anything, on a supported laptop.
Yes 220W directly through the MXM slot. I've actually managed to reach 345W from the wall with OCCT PSU test, and Heaven+Prime95 by setting the EC 330W system limit, which I believe can theoretically go up to 460W, due to SLI config being possible, of 230W * 2 (but to avoid massive battery drain via NOS, requires removing the battery, and tricking the laptop into thinking the battery is still connected, with a few EC RAM mods), but heaven+prime95 AVX disabled would drop CPU stability due to that load and i was lucky not to BSOD.

 

That is one hell of an impressive score for a 1070!

 

Good Lord...

 

BTW did you try to hit 5GHz on cpu?
I was recently tried to find similar msi lap to buy for modding pourposes in my country but unfortunately didn't find one.

 

Thanks for your comments. I will use it at factory settings up to 30-40 fps in games. I will consider replacing the notebook later.

Also, the main problem is that intel processors are weaker than nvidia graphics cards. Therefore, the use of gpu is often reduced.

 

5 ghz boots windows but the EC (or Bios) prevents any load higher than superPi from running.
1.45v manual VID or higher is required and the hardwired amps limit (70-80A?) simply shuts the system off if the voltage is too high, and will BSOD if voltage (VID) is too low. Desktop 7700K's had enough problems reaching 5 ghz stable (8700k was much easier), and 7820HK's are worse quality silicon. I think the Intel spec sheets said that the amps limit for BGA kaby lake is 72A and for desktop S chips is 100A. I forgot.

Even 4.9 ghz is impossible to do any real work on. 1.38v manual VID will cause Cinebench R15 to shut off the laptop after 1 or 2 runs because the amps limit gets triggered.
On desktops, this limit can be bypassed by "CPU Current Capacity" or "CPU Current Limit (Amps)". Only Prema Bios laptops allow the intel hardwired limits to be exceeded.
4.8 ghz is the most that is possible to use (requires about 1.31v manual set VID).

The problem is that ICCMAX is not "CPU Current capacity". It's only a current limit with respect to "Serial VID" control, which causes throttlestop to throttle the CPU if exceeded.
ICCMAX does absolutely nothing with regards to the hardwired VRM limit for the 7820HK, which is either enforced by BIOS or EC. It's sort of the same thing regarding "Vcore"...you don't set Vcore on these laptops. You set VID. Offset voltage changes the VID value. "Override" voltage changes the VID. That's why AC/DC Loadline still affects voltage if you use override voltage, and also why there is no "Loadline Calibration" on laptops, LLC requires hardware direct VRM control, which you can't access via Serial VID control. AC/DC Loadline is not loadline calibration. It affects the CPU Operating voltage point offset based on current (AC Loadline) and the CPU power measurements (DC Loadline), but not LLC.

It's worth noting that Gigabyte's Z490 boards also allow you to change the VID as well, either the 'direct' VID or via V/F points. Asus Z490 boards only allow V/F points.

 

Even though the CPU is running at 48x, the temperature is very low at 78 degrees. How did you manage heat?

 

Thanks to this beefy heatsink and liquid metal I presume

 

3DM Firestrike doesn’t max out the processors.

 

you're right. However, 3DM's physics tests never mean applying low loads.

 

https://twitter.com/PremaMod/status/1309596250543718403?s=20

Wow this is really awesome! Hey guys, the Prema mod team achieved a graphics score of 32,274 with the RTX 2080 Super mobile. How can this be possible?

 

Not too out of the realm. This guy Camtown501 has an Aorus 17X with a 200W RTX 2080 Super overclocked it with +100 core and +800 mem and was able to get 28818 in Fire Strike graphics

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/23351270

With a slightly higher power limit the delta of 10% can be easily achieved. Plus it seems a lot of Clevo chassis generally have higher power limits than other laptop manufacturers. They don't seem to really follow Nvidia's guidelines at all when making their laptops. Either that or the team just did a simple shunt mod. It also seems the Clevo they used has gsync instead of optimus, so no iGPU bottleneck?

 

28.8k is balls considering the 200w power limit + overclock.

 

HI

Are there any official RTX2080 Super no GSYNC vbioses that have higher power limit than 150W that can be flashed on GE75 10SGS with NVFlash?
If yes can someone share one?

 

Anyone knows if this one would work?

 

Yes but this should cost a lot less than that

 

Which one should cost less?

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/SOIC8-Adap...sh=item4b82440c09:g:kTUAAOSwrz5fIqGA&LH_BIN=1