Modern Warfare 3 Discussion Thread

Essentially making anyone who used Hardline or Cold-Blooded seriously disadvantaged when it came to any form of firearm combat.

Unfortunately, Stopping Power has become a requirement for anyone using an assault rifle purely to stop themselves from being sodomized.

Sniping with the Intervention is PITA without SP though.

 

Its a real challenge to snipe without SP, but a impressive one if you can keep doing it. It is also correct that people who used did screw over people who used hardline and coldblooded, but i still want SP back it would help the serious phase problems that BO has...
EDIT: Fix it if ghost was in the same tier!

 

SP is fun when you are the one using it and killing others, but that means it is really tough to play without SP, If you choose some other perk you would get pwned by everyone whenever i used cold blooded. Was really hard to play without SP. If you want SP back you also must want juggernaut from MW back
Here are a few perks I just never want back -
Juggernaut-Complete crap, what were they thinking
Stopping Power- this not so much as the others
Martydrom - worst f***in thing ever, always had to run away after killing someone, chances of survival after knife kill = 0.1%
Fragx3 - Misused like hell. Spawn - aim in direction of enemy spawn point - throw 3 grenades at different distances after cooking so that they explode right when they land - an unlucky bloke dies
All of these were out after MW1 though(except for SP). The one perk I would like back from MW1 is overkill, either that or make secondary weapon choices like MW2(not BlOps) so that i can choose shotgun as secondary weapon.

 

Im probably not going to be able to formulate it properly, but if you have ever watched the Call of duty podcast Painkiller already then here in the newest the youtuber Wings of redemption gave a most valid point of why SP should be in. IW even hinted that their guns would automatically have SP so that would just leave the spot open for like ghost and SP which is in the guns already at the same time... so i do think that SP should be in the game. And the thing is, if you wanna compete you gotta have SP if you dont then its your own fault that you wont kill as easy....

 

You really are defending SP, it makes play unbalanced. Period, that is why it should not be there. Nobody likes an unbalanced game. I can still pwn without SP but the thing is that SP just makes play unfair, i started playing with the Scar + SP as my main class but after Prestige 1 i shifted to Famas and no SP. Then i realized how screwed up SP is making the game. I still played without SP when i last played the game and I was at prestige 3. I can kill others SP or no SP but i dont like it that SP makes it easier for others to kill me.

 

Stopping power is a god damn joke. Why would they even bother making other red perks if not using stopping power put you at an extreme disadvantage. Gun damage should stay the same per weapon. Everyone using an m16 should do the same damage. Everyone using an ACR should so the same damage. Perks should add abilities, not damage.

Also, hawk1410, I find it quite funny that you disagree with this guy over stopping power being unbalanced, but then you want them to bring back shotgun secondaries? Give me a break. Such a terrible game mechanic. A secondary should be a non-powerful weapon you have to fall back upon if youre low on ammo, or need the quick switch instead of reloading. A secondary should not be a weapon that defines gameplay style.

Nothing more than this:
-Get killed by sniper
-Sneak up on snipers position
-Sniper whips out auto-shotty
-u ded

 

Yes I agree but playing with a shotgun secondary is much more fun. That is still not as unbalanced as SP.

 

Agree - perhaps they should have some of the crapper shotguns as secondary, but beastly shotguns (maybe the auto ones) as primary?

Also SP is stupid. Perks should help you play in your own style - I always felt compelled to use SP, when really, I shouldn't

 

Well i liked SP... The shotgun secondaries is a bad idea in my opinion, for how many times havent you been shot with a full auto AA-12 and couldent do a single thing or "sniped" by a spas 12.... If they really found a way to balance the shotguns then it could be an idea but the developer being IW i doubt it...

 

Well no auto shotguns like AA12 and super strong stuff like 1887 was. I mean perhaps stuff like the Ranger. Better ones should only be the primary weapon.

 

BF3 devs are using this as the basis to their weapon balancing, saying that weapon damage won't be augmentable, meaning that you can add extended mags, sights and anything else you need, but that one weapon is specifically balanced to play nice with the other weapons in the game.

I think its worth mentioning that mw2 never had "sniper corners", meaning you could never back your into a corner and just shoot out, there were always ways to sneak around a sniper, 2 ways in, even if they have a claymore there was always a second access route, go looke and MW2. Were as BLOPS had countless spots you could claymore up or stick a camera and be perfectly gaurded and never have to worry about your blind spot. MW maps are well designed.

 

Guys there is currently running some MW3 gameplay on IGN E3 livestream, and it looks to be the IW4 or perhaps 5 engine theire using not the BO referb one...
EDIT: And it looks like the regular fullstock MP5 is back and so is the ak 74 u and the p90 and g18 and as it seems a modded AA-12(Not full auto) And after watching the gameplay defenetly looks like IW4 engine.

 

Yep. AA12 is full auto, G18, AK74, P90 and MP5 are back. Pretty much the same as last year's demo though : stealthly plant a bomb, breach, kill, retrieve info, kill, drive the boat, escape.

 

Wait the AA-12 wasent full auto??

 

Nope, it was full auto. He only pressed once for all the pew pew. :3

 

Yeah AA12 was full auto. The gameplay looks like just as expected. looks like just an expansion pack for MW2, a few more features, same graphics and as linear as ever. But I am fine with that, it will serve its purpose.

 

ALTOUGH, it kind of seems more CoD4 than MW2. IMHO.

 

In what way exactly?? I hope the Single Player campaign is as good as MW1. I have lost all hope for multiplayer. I will buying the game for my PS3 only for spec ops and single player, and occasional multiplayer.

 

damn, just saw the trailers on gametrailers and it looks like a mw2 expansion pack...

 

I dunno, maybe it's due to the MP5, but I feel it is very COD4-alike.

 

Yeah it did seem a tad like CoD4, but hey who knows... I really liked the MP5 fullstock re-skin..

 

Seeing this and then watching the new gameplay for BF3 and theres no competition, hopefully this shakes up a few gamers and we see a shift in what gamers are playing. Although I do believe this game will still sell well, I like that atleast BF3 is an evolution and changes things as they go along, without adding fees mind you.

 

BF3 >>>>>> MW3, period. No way this can compete with BF3, multiplayer atleast. BF3 will be superior in every way apart from maybe single player, if it is like BC2 and MW3 like MW2 then MW3 sinple player might be better.

 

I still really enjoy the missions in MW. You know, after you've played the game through I've played Hidden and Estate Takedown for hundreds of hours. At the end of Special OPs there is the Zombie game and I couldn't get into that at all. I think I like slower more strategy based FPS single player games. Are there any games with missions similar to the ones at the end of MW?

 

Survival Mode debut video - YouTube - ‪Late Night With Jimmy Fallon - Call Of duty : MW3 , SURVIVAL mode funny presentation‬‏
Seems okay. Pay attention to what the Activision exec says in the beginning about how people who do not even watch NFL still watch the Superbowl, exactly my point as to why MW3 will still be more popular than BF 3 even though the latter will be a better game, CoD is just too popular with the non gamers, who wont really care for destructible environment or unlimited possible light sources in a room and all. They just want something as a stress buster, and nothing does that better than CoD.

 

Spec ops is a really good addition and should be considered for ANY game. The reason I say this people enjoy playing the story with a friend, take Halo for example, having splitscreen or over the net single player campaign multiplayer makes its SOOO much more fun. All games should be doing this and I think we'd see more people completing the story mode, regardless if it was made for only one person or not,

-end rant.