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    NBR ATI Overclocking Team thread

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by ikovac, Nov 11, 2006.

  1. reinoks

    reinoks Notebook Enthusiast

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    and can i rise my gpu speed with 3dmark pro
    atm. i have 3dmark 05 v 1.3.0 pro edition ... what ever ...
     
  2. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    3DMark is a benchmark and not an overclocking utility. The past few pages have good info on overclocking. Be very careful and only do it if you have to.
     
  3. Lil Mayz

    Lil Mayz Notebook Deity

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    Every computer component does a certain number of operations per second. This is known as the Clock Rate and is measured in Hertz (Hz).

    the X1400 in your Dell can be modified to increase its Clock Rate. Therefore, itll do more things in a second and basically make it faster. It can be very dangerous however, as if your video card (GPU) does more operations per second, it needs more power, and the increased power supply to your GPU can seriously damage your Graphics Chip.

    Some processors are more effiicient than other however, in that, in each clock cycle, more can be done, and so you need to overclock less to get the same amount of performance.

    It isnt however, a driver. With some laptops, components can be overclocked directly from the BIOS, but you cannot do that with Dells. You need to use a Clock Rate configuration tool such as RMClock, or easier, the ATI Tools thing.
     
  4. ikovac

    ikovac Cooler and faster... NBR Reviewer

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    lil mayz explained it well. Try my sig links for some more info on the issue.

    Ivan
     
  5. Notebook Solutions

    Notebook Solutions Company Representative NBR Reviewer

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    Too bad that there is no activity in this thread, no one with an X1900 or X1700 to send some benches? ;)

    Charlie :)
     
  6. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    I had posted this yesterday in another thread, so I'll repeat it here: I've spent part of my day experimenting with different clock speeds for the X1700 in my Samsung X60plus. The default clock settings are 405/446.5 (core/mem) so Samsung are being conservative on the core clock speed but have the memory set relatively fast. Using ATI Tray Tools I got the core speed up to 533 before artifacts started to appear and the memory up to about 550 before the screen went blank.

    Using Omega drivers 3.8.291, 3DMark06 gave the following results:

    405/446.5 (stock) : 1813
    449/450 : 1905 (+5%)
    476/400 : 1947 (+7%)
    476/500 : 2024 (+12%)
    500/500 : 2077 (+15%)

    Increasing the core speed increased the peak power consumption, from 59W at the mains socked with the stock settings to 63W at 500/500. However, I should point out that I have the T7200 CPU undervolted down to 1.0V, which reduces the peak CPU power consumption by about 9W, so the increase in GPU power is within the overall design of the cooling system.

    Research study now over, I'll be leaving the settings at the default, but it does appear that there is some scope for tweaking the X1700.

    John
     
  7. usapatriot

    usapatriot Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    And what did you use to undervolt your CPU?
     
  8. Gator

    Gator Go Gators!

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    Hey usapatriot, actually undervolting doesn't seem to help the power consumption of the Core Duo that much. Latest version of NHC can do it however.
     
  9. ikovac

    ikovac Cooler and faster... NBR Reviewer

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    Really? And what about temp? Does it help staying cool?

    Ivan
     
  10. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    I am using RMclock utility. Intel locked the bottom voltage for the Core and Core 2 at 0.95V so, unlike the Dothan CPUs, it is not possible to undervolt at the minimum CPU speed and extend battery life. However, undervolting still substantially reduces power and heat when the CPU is under load. As a result, it is rare for my computer's fan to get above minimum speed, so less fan noise as well.

    John
     
  11. yang88she

    yang88she Notebook Evangelist

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    here's mine

    [​IMG]

    x1800 go, this was w/ i think catalyst 6.7 back in October

    havn't really benched since then, I guess I can test out the new omegas vs the new catalyst 7.1
     
  12. ronkotus

    ronkotus Notebook Evangelist

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    Could you tell which level your clocks are at, because I can't distinguish them well enough from that pic. Or post a bigger image using the file attachment function in the advanced page (push that "Go Advanced"-button). That's great score by the way. How's the temperatures? I haven't had luck oc'ing with AtiTool so I use Powerstrip.
     
  13. yang88she

    yang88she Notebook Evangelist

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    I never monitored the temps, I'm @ work so I'll try to post a new SS when I get back home =D

    I think I set the clocks to 463/553 I didn't get any artifacts so I'm assuming that I could have pushed it more...I when up in increments of 10

    fyi: I didn't leave it OCed, it was just a test run to see what the gpu was capable of and I've left it @ stock ever since
     
  14. Gator

    Gator Go Gators!

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    Yay, thread back from the dead!
     
  15. ikovac

    ikovac Cooler and faster... NBR Reviewer

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    :)
    yang88she - try everest home edition for GPU temps if nothing else works. It can read my GPU and GPU ambient temp.

    Cheers,

    Ivan
     
  16. yang88she

    yang88she Notebook Evangelist

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    thanks for the info, here's some new scores w/ the new catalyst 7.1 drivers (just a quick run)

    [​IMG]

    6808 score w/ x1800go
    501.75/553.50
     
  17. Nicolas41390

    Nicolas41390 Notebook Consultant

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    I was about to test my OCed x200m with 3Dmarks05, but I don't have enough space on my hard drive to install...
     
  18. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    Now there's an excuse to upgrade.

    I had a 40GB 4200RPM drive in my old HP when I first got it. If you upgrade to a 60GB 7200RPM drive you will see a substantial performance increase.
     
  19. someone777

    someone777 Notebook Evangelist

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    umm can anyone show me the overclocked of ati 200m
    i still don' get the overclocking thing even i do it......
    i am confused
    ????????????
     
  20. Nicolas41390

    Nicolas41390 Notebook Consultant

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    I don't really need an upgrade, I still have 35 sec boot ups and everything (besides the games) loads really quickly. I have a 750gb external that I was using until it got full.
     
  21. ikovac

    ikovac Cooler and faster... NBR Reviewer

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    I think jess_paws has it and successfully overclocked 200m. You may PM her and ask for help.

    :)

    Cheers,

    Ivan
     
  22. moon angel

    moon angel Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    Overclocking the x200m couldn't be easier, that's assuming you dont have any dedicated ram. If you don't it's as easy as this:

    Download and install powerstrip.

    Run powerstrip and from the icon in the taskbar right click, performance profiles and select configure. You'll then be presented with the screen below.

    As the x200m has no dedicated ram (well mine doesn't) overclocking your ram is not really applicable in this case. All you need to so is pop the core clock speed up with the slider on the left. It'll auto-set to the nearest doable configuration from where you move the slider after you press apply or OK. Once you've moved the slider up (do it at small increments at first) try running games or maybe 3dmark to check for stability.

    I found that the highest setting (513MHz in my case) was a bit unstable so I have mine set at 459 as you can see. This improves my 3dmark05 score from 515 at the stock 378MHz to something like 542 (I think, I forget actually) so it does do something. You can see a slight performance increase in games, but be careful and watch for stability and heat output.
     

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  23. Nicolas41390

    Nicolas41390 Notebook Consultant

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    How much warmer did yours get when you OCed it jess_paws?
     
  24. moon angel

    moon angel Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    I have no idea! I cant find an application to measure my gpu temperature. I've done 4 hours gaming stints on WoW though and it is usually fine after that. I've neverf noticed any instability so looks like it's within acceptable limits.
     
  25. ikovac

    ikovac Cooler and faster... NBR Reviewer

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    From my MXM Ati x700 experience (and x200m is different - on the motherboard) overclocking doesn't affect GPU core temp too much. And Due to one old mishap with airpocket in the thermopad between my x700 core and heatsink - it can reach 120 and still work. Now it works at 70 in games, and I have no problems at all after all that hot experience.

    Ivan
     
  26. moon angel

    moon angel Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    As ivan says, gpu temperatures can go much higher than those of most cpus, even mobile ones. I think that gpus tend to start overheating well over 100 degrees C rather than around the 80-90 degrees of a cpu.
     
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