New NVIDIA Geforce WHQL Driver 353.06

Wow how do you game and stream at the same time with that upload

 

There is a reason I put "livestreaming master" in my title =D.

 

Digital Nitrous Oxide booster?

 

d00d that is superb!!!

 

with that high of a ping, you are definitely going to get fragged in any online shooter you play

 

We are definitely very fortunate in the Denver market, especially since CenturyLink is the only provider alternative and the most they can deliver here is 3Mbps last I checked (and I live less than a 5 minute drive from the state Capitol). We actually have a 150 tier, I just won't pay for it.

I always remove any networking utilities that come with drivers and have done so since the problematic utilities that came with the old nForce drivers for AMD and Intel Nvidia chipset boards.

 

Going on 6 years of testing and checking =D.

I won't lie that it is indeed a huge detriment, but I can usually pull through.

 

It's why I don't play online shooters

 

Reminds me of the years when I lived across the Pacific and would always have a ping of at least 250ms in any US based server for CS 1.6 or TFC. It was a disaster for CS but not atrociously bad for TFC. As a result I probably played TFC 10x more than I did CS 1.6, and why I'm much better at TFC than CS these days LOL

 

LOL, I play L4D2 with 150ms ping on most servers. It's not FPS shooter but I recall myself make a Charger's instant with ping 550+ms in window... Being a charger of course

 

he's lucky he even has comcast. i'm trying to move to atlanta just so i can have google fiber and comcasts 2gbps fighting over me lol. plus a ton of servers are there

 

stay away from these drivers guys.Again a bsod while playing a simple lego game which came out yesterday.THere is something wrong with the driver.I will revert to 350.12 which were the last one which were okay for me.I like the pefromance gain in far cry 4 but apart from that its crap

 

its making my gpu hit 99 percent usage in bf4 without aa and lots of throttling and stutters and driver crashes

 

BF4 is a terrible game for stability, especially with nVidia. No driver is safe XD.

I would highly suggest using another game to check for stability. As far as I've ever seen, BF4 has never improved or suffered quality with drivers... only with game updates.

 

I have never completed the single player campaign of bf4, feels like that game just came out yesterday

 

Yeah that's how buggy it is :3

 

Hey bro, can you add a signature to your settings so we can all know what hardware you are running? I'm not impressed by them either, but it would be good to get a feel for if the ratio of disapproval is more for Kepler users versus Maxwell.

 

It's one of the few games that can make my 970s pull 200W (or 250W peak ) and punish them hard enough that I have to reduce the overclock lol

 

oh BF4. It's one of my coolest games, even with an overclock on single GPU it doesn't even reach 90.

 

I have the same problem as you with the new drivers, i noticed a decrease of performance in GTAV compared to the 350.12 drivers and i gotten a few BSODs too. I made a post about it on page 19 and how GPU-Z was acting strange with them. I went back to 350.12 and everything is back to normal.

 

Seems like the 750M GPUs have problems. More than one 750M user has complained. I suggest you guys report the BSODs to nVidia. If the 750M card is the culprit then a hotfix driver can be put out. My 780Ms haven't really seen any BSODs though I haven't played any demanding games since they came out, but Mr. Fox I think has em okay for his Clevo, and Ethrem doesn't have any issues.

 

In some online shooters it´s an advantage rounding a corner with high ping. You shoot them before you even show up on their screen

 

With client side hit detection that it is the issue, and why I quit playing BF4 for the most part. Too many high pingers where you get shot from some ghost, and then your return fire ends up nailing them directly but it doesn't count because server thinks it lands somewhere behind them. It gives benefit of the doubt to high pingers in every respect. Plus line of sight in BF4 is atrocious. There is no way you should be able to get shot (or shoot) someone from some angles yet people are able to do it. I've even had tanks or choppers even, completely absorb an RPG shot. It would hit them but then just disappear. No explosion, no damage, nothing. Not to mention hitting a tank with some form or shoulder mounted RPG and do 25-30 damage four times in a row and not even having it be disabled (no engineer in sight repairing it)... 25 * 4 = 100 which should blow it up... nah, it still has 30 health when it kills me. Not to mention the animations suck. I've been shot by someone who shows they're reloading. Everyone says "oh it's just a glitch", well how are you supposed to get the jump on them if you think they're reloading, bu they're not!? /BF4 rage off/

 

Yeah, BF4 has a real problem with 150+ ping. Normally a game's supposed to stop rolling back after a certain time, and in CoD it gets really difficult to play at like 200+ms ping for that reason, but BF4 doesn't even care. If you're a sneaky player and keep surprising people then you can do really well with that kinda ping.

But non-BF4 games? Hell no XD

 

Yeah try playing CS with 330 ping, I dare you.

 

Stop trying to make people kill themselves with frustration XD

 

OK, this discussion really belongs here... and in GeForce forums. While they seem to all be emotionless robots that rarely react publicly to comments, we can only hope they read and react quietly. More exposure of their organized crime ring could also be good as a deterrent to future behavioral indiscretions on their part.

Edit:

I don't disagree, although it casts both Alienware and NVIDIA is a very negative, culpable light here. Thankfully, I can still use 345.20 drivers or older and update SLI and game profiles without newer drivers. But, yeah... this is really disturbing and I think we can attribute all of the 980M throttling drama to the same criminal acts on both of their parts. All they have done is increase my level of contempt and reduced the likelihood I will buy Alienware or NVIDIA products in the future. If they are trying to force upgrades, they will only succeed in forcing that through the use of competitor's products as an alternative.

I find it very hard to forgive biased acts of collusion.

 

This one is for NVIDIA... with love... 345.20 drivers FTW... get your act together, losers...

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/9901465


And, why I want Jen-Hsun Huang's head on the end of a stick... with 353.06, exact same settings. New discovery... 353.06 even throttles my CPU from 4.7GHz down to 4.4GHz. LOSERS!

 

How does a GPU driver cause your CPU to throttle? It makes no sense - a GPU driver should (technically) do nothing but adjust power to the GPU and adjust how the GPU processes stuff. Either Nvidia has screwed up big time, or there's something else on your system that's causing the throttling.

 

Well, great question. It shouldn't, but it obviously does. Just look at the results. Physics score dropped and I watched the throttling with my own eyes using OSD. This is what I have been chirping about with NVIDIA overstepping their boundaries by doing things that influence overall system behavior. I have FLAWLESS execution with 345.20 and older drivers. After that, everything is screwed up. 2+2=4. The numbers don't lie. There is absolutely nothing wrong with my system. There is something terribly wrong with what their drivers are causing my system to do. Whether that is incompetence or some sort of conspiracy is unknown, but when nothing changes except for the driver, and behavior returns to normal with drivers that are not totally screwed up that pretty much rules out a hardware problem. This machine has worked flawlessly and continues to work flawlessly if I do not use their new cancer drivers. Those benchmarks are run back-to-back in case you did not notice the date and time in the system tray clock.

It might just be Alienware SLI beasts today... tomorrow is coming and unless they knock it off with their retarded shenanigans there will be others in a similar predicament. They need to stick with display drivers that allow GPUs to work and nothing more.

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Mr Fox; The result with 353.06 is a disaster... A benchmark score with dual graphics that may be similar a good result with 1stk gtx780m. Is the benchmark scores from the last 353.06 driver just as catastrophic as tests with previous WHQL driver 352.86 and hotfix350.00? Do you see any change between the new drivers at all?

 

No, not really any change between the newer drivers. All of the newer drivers cause the same behavior. As I test these more, the problems they were causing with Windows Disk Scan on my Clevo P570WM are also now happening on the M18xR2 as well. On both machines these 353.06 drivers (only) seem to be causing disk corruption for some reason. All disk tests and S.M.A.R.T. results are fine and it happens after shutting down and cold booting. I am guessing something is happening when shutting them down for some reason. The 350.12 and 352.86 drivers do not cause the disk errors on either machine, but the performance is horrible like this on the M18xR2 with 347.88 and newer. I also noticed today that with 353.06 it takes longer from my WiFi to connect on both machines. EVGA Precision X checks for updates at startup and returns an error about not being able to connect, then the WiFi connects a few seconds later, but that does not happen on drivers older than 353.06. I have not done a clean install of the OS on the Clevo, but I did with the M18xR2 and it made no difference whatsoever.

 

How are score in 3Dmark11 test with stock clock and sli with 353.06? Higher than crippled P9917 in 3Dmark11 with sli? How is it possible to cripple drivers such? What if you overclock high only the gpu's and not processor?

 

I didn't notice this... it might still be related to killer card conflicts; even if your driver suite is not there it doesn't mean the nVidia driver doesn't hate the killer card. But it could also be their "fixes" to the streaming service program not using as much CPU power; who knows.

 

It doesn't help. If I mod that 353.12 desktop hotfix driver ( see post here) I was able to stop the throttling using GTX 690 strings, but overclocked it was the same... 405 core/400 memory. Not overclocking the CPU did not change the GPU throttling.

Yeah, who knows. That's possible. It's just really weird, and very stupid. Whatever they changed in the drivers was not good. And, looking at the GeForce Forums threads, it's not good for a lot of people. The range of weird problems is all over the board, with Chrome crashing seeming to be the most common ailment among multiple platforms. They only thing I think about it is there are too many really nasty, deep-rooted hooks into a lot of stuff. I think we are in for some scary times as this infatuation with SoC brain cancer continues to spread across the hi-tech landscape. Seems like they want everything with a processor to look, act, feel and smell like a pathetic smartphone, LOL.

Edit: on a positive note, it looks like my GeForce Driver Debacle YouTube Video is at the top of the list for Google page ranking, LOL.

 

What is @j95 his commentary on what's happening with the drivers? (Has he an explanation?)

 

No, and his driver mod for Maxwell actually makes my 780M SLI throttle worse.

 

There are so many weird problems with drivers for Nvidia nowadays. Nvidia can surely not fix everything at once. A new fix now then another mistake. Nvidia should wait with new features until they have fixed the performance of the graphics cards. It is not smart to keep on making multiple functions simultaneously with bug fixes before the issue is resolved.

Edit: @Mr Fox Have you tested also Win 10 with 3Dmark11? Same driver problem there too?

 

Nothing is going to get fixed until Windows 10 gets released. It is always like this when a new version of Windows comes out and with Microsoft having such a short time window between polishing off the rest of the OS and pushing RTM, crunch time is even harder on everyone.

I do not know why the 353.06 drivers don't give me any issues on my desktop or my laptop but I'm glad I'm not dealing with what @Mr. Fox has been or I'd either be drunk and angry or would have smashed the computer... I've got Irish and German in me so I have quite a nasty temper

 

hmmm....the driver just crashed while on the desktop using chrome of all things....WTF?! it seems to happen to desktop users too

 

Disable HW acceleration in Google Chrome

 

trying that and uninstalling the nvidia audio driver.

edit: don't think it was the OC since it crashed on the desktop.

 

yeah, looks like people are complaining about it crashing on chrome so i am not the only one.

 

I wonder if there is any correlation to using geforce experience to update drivers or downloading and doing a manual install. Wish we could know how everyone does their updates and see if bypassing GFE causes issues or vice versa. I've been wondering if Nvidia is playing games with people who do not use GFE. Would not put it past them.

 

I do not use GFE to update my drivers but I don't keep it uninstalled.

 

I've been just updating through GFE lately. Haven't had any driver issues yet..

 

I've used GFE up until this last round to install without issue, but since Witcher 3 came out and GFE would keep resetting settings, I uninstalled GFE and have installed last two drivers simply through the website and kept GFE uninstalled. Can't tell a difference either way, no issues to report with these drivers.

 

to a degree i don't think it's the 980M's fault though it's the driver's fault. will have to keep an eye on it.

 

That's odd. GFE doesn't change my settings, it just notifies me when new game settings are available.

 

I have been bypassing GFE and installing manually but I do still have GFE installed..for now. I have not tried the new driver or the hotfix yet. I am currently on Mr. Fox's nodded 345.20. Been getting crazy throttling so planned on trying to flash my vbios but don't feel comfortable with it at this point.

I do have a recurring issue of losing the ability to change any setting in NVIDIA control panel. Started happening when I started manually installing updates myself. It's weird, seems like any change causes me to lose the ability so I then have to DDU everything and reinstall. It's nit permissions, it's not windows updates. Happened to me last week. I had just gotten done wiping everything but my OS and reinstalling everything from scratch. I decided for some reason to reinstall Fallout 3 and Starcraft 2 and one of them caused me to lose the ability to save my changes to Nvidia control panel. Who knows, feel like I am walking on eggshells with this crap lately.

So, tomorrow, I will be back at it. DDU, install new driver, realize new driver sucks, reinstall nodded 345.20 and who knows from there. Maybe just throw a voodoo 3D card from back in the day in this thing and kiss my driver issues goodbye