Expect 128bit interface with ddr3 for the 840M..
I'm wondering if the overclock will stay locked @ max +135mhz for the core..
The gtx 860m will most likely be equal to a gtx 750 ti with slightly lower clocks (5300 perf 3dmark 11)
With the +135 oc i think we can acheive max 6k which is way more than the 4.8k of a gtx 765m oc..
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The desktop cards are locked to +135mhz so I doubt mobile will be more.
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Well TechPowerUp have jumped on the same boat as us. The TDP is still very wrong though. Around 40-45W is more correct. If GTX 860M is launching with these clocks, we are looking at performance pretty close to the GTX 680M. Depends on how good the L2 cache is with games
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ASUS said that they will start to ship the 860M by the end of march, we got to wait my friends..winter is not coming soon after all ..
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the clocks you posted are 750 ti desktop clocks, is techpowerup precise and trustful about these clocks ?
wait and see..
if the clocks are confirmed, we got a P6.4k 3dm11 card when OCwith 60W TDP more or less
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GTX 750 Ti have a TDP of 60W with those clocks. GTX 860M will run lower core voltage, plus the VRAM will most likely be mobile chips running lower voltage than the desktop VRAM, all this resulting in lower total TDP.
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excuse me for the question (dummy question) but if they lower the voltage, it wont run @ the same core clock then right ?
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You might need to increase voltage slightly but nowhere near the voltage you find on the desktop version.
To give you an idea:
GTX 670: 1.175V (Running clocks up to 980MHz)
GTX 680M with unlocked Vbios: 1.073V (Running clocks over 1GHz)
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Its just amazing how much better maxwell is at 28nm can't wait to see 20mn
, also want to see how much you can overclock the gtx 860M with unlocked vbios.
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Is confirmed 20nm for this year?
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(Does anyone know when AMD are likely to shrink to 20nm, and does anybody know anything about their next architecture, - the desktop 290x wasn't that much different to the 7970 in terms of architecture(?) - maybe the 290x architecture will end up in mobile? Don't know much about AMD's plans!) -
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Listen to SinofLiberty guys:
28nm Maxwell is ONLY for the low end Maxwell:
GM107 and GM108.
GTX 750 Ti is using a FULL GM107. There is no other GPUs that can be made from that chip.
GM107 and GM108 is 1st generation Maxwell. Look at this slide, notice they call it "1st generation Maxwell". Why do they only write +35% specifically for 1st generation Maxwell? Because 20nm will obviously bring better benefits than that.
GM206, GM204 and GM200 is 2nd generation Maxwell. That have already been confirmed by Nvidia drivers. These are all 20nm.
Those are the big boys of Maxwell. GM206 is midrange. GM204 is high end. GM200 will be Nvidia`s milking cow 1 year after GM204 had the market alone.
We know that GT 840M is GM108. We know that GTX 850M and GTX 860M is GM107. Confirmed by GPU-z update log and AIDA64 update log.
That means the rest of mobile Maxwell`s will be based on 2nd generation Maxwell. 20nm Maxwell.
GTX 680M was GK104. Same will be applied to Maxwell. GTX 880MX will be GM204.
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I pray that he is right - I would HATE to have to wait till Oct/Nov/Dec to buy a laptop with 20nm Maxwell. Hope the 880MX releases in Jul/Aug at the latest.
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Maybe let AMD actually make a new generation of mobile chips, and then we'll compare them? Right now AMD is not in picture in terms of 20nm, they started rebadging instead of moving forward on the mobile side and went HD 7000M -> HD 8000M -> Rx M2x0. Let then pull their socks up and actually give us products that are NOT rebadges.
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My thoughts about this.
1. Each year we get +15-30% of performance increase in each gpu category.
2. I hear many "exciting news" but I know that nothing gonna be changed - same 15-30%. Period.
3. All those super exciting news about incoming are prolonged in time on purpose by Nvidia so at the end of a day/year all we get is the same "just good news". If you would tell somebody in 2010 about incoming performance of 2012 GPUs you would get the same exciting panic as you get now.
Seriously. For now I see that it is even possible that onboard 860M GPUs are going to be with DDR3 vRAM. Nothing good at all. Even more, I read speculatings (may be fake) that all onboard 860Ms may be rebranded Kepler. Nothing good either.
Anyway, I am excited... but just because I know that i 1 year perhaps I will buy average laptop (1100$) with 860m which will be much better than my 660M.
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Aida mentioning :
- GPU information for nVIDIA GeForce GTX 860M (GM107M)
The new MSI GE60 mentioning :
- NVIDIA GeForce GTX 860M - 2 GB GDDR5 SDRAMCloudfire, sasuke256 and ThePerfectStorm like this. -
Hell yeah 860M (GM107M) - 2 GB GDDR5 hope coming soon into MSI GE40 too.
Just a little reminder, if someone do not understand the power of GM107 yet;
Crysis 1080p 4X AA gaming
GTX 480 Vs. GTX 750 Ti
32.7FPS Vs. 31.9FPS
257W Vs. 52W
Avarage
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The only one who is silly here is you with your constant white knighting against anyone who dare to speak negative against AMD. You may own a notebook with GT 650M but I think everyone here knows what camp you truly belong in...
Here is how Maxwell stand against AMD right now. 50% more efficient than the 2nd most efficient GPU, AMD`s GCN architecture. And no, we are not gonna stop posting information about how amazing Maxwell truly is. Right now AMD have a ton of work to catch up with Nvidia. Thats the fact. They may or may not catch up with Maxwell, or even surpass it, we don`t know that yet. Heck we haven`t even heard about any architecture that they plan to release. Hawaii was their recent and it bleaks in comparison with Maxwell. In the meantime we are not gonna stop posting information that shows how efficient Maxwell is against any other GPUs out there, even if it puts AMD in a "bad light".
Mantle will not boost low (neglible anyway) end GPUs with high end mobile i7s. Mantle improve CPU bottleneck by reducing overhead in scenarios where you use a weaker CPU than the GPU configuration. You know that.
Deal with it
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SinOfLiberty Notebook Evangelist
Successor to GK 104(high end too) was supposed to come in February. aka, based on 28nm
Now, when it is not the case, we(Desktop users)might expect a proper replacement (gk 104 AND GK 110 successor) both in 800 series. Similar to Fermi.
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And where have you heard about June as release? I`d love to see 20nm by June
Lets go back to 2012: GTX 675M was announced May 2012. It was a Fermi rebrand. GTX 580M. June 2012, GTX 680M, Kepler, was announced.
March 2014: GTX 880M is announced. It is a Kepler rebrand. GTX 780M. Why not, GTX 880MX, Maxwell, in June this time too? Me thinks that will happen
If low end (GM108 and GM107) will be remade in 20nm? Who knows. They might even make brand new chips for those low end models when 20nm is rolling out. Or they just scale exisiting 28nm chips down with 20nm. Or they don`t have to do anything since 28nm is working perfectly for those chips anyway.
Another driver that list many 800M cards.
Aorus mobile driver 332.38 - News - LaptopVideo2Go Forums
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I'll need a laptop by sometime in June, and I'm most probably going to get the Lenovo Y50, but it sounds like it will only have the 860M (which don't get me wrong, it's looking to be a great card) but it will be 28nm and not 20nm. I would want it to be as powerful as I could get it, but I just can't wait till August or September. I don't know if I would be able to sell it or send it back because my patents are getting it for me and I doubt they would let me do that. What should I do?
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It depends what you want and what you want to pay.
Gaming notebooks with GTX 680M/780M is the best choice, but they cost a pretty penny.
Y50 is more of a designer notebook am I right? I also hear it get a 4K display which is super nice. If you can SLI two GTX 860M, you will have a pretty powerful notebook thats for sure. GTX 860M in itself will probably be somewhere around GTX 770M which is a great gaming card. But will be much cooler. It can pretty much play any game you want, many on very high settings too
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The Y50 is labeled as a gaming laptop, and the 4K resolution is optional. But I'll be using it for school, so I need a laptop that is thin and Light and powerful and has a touch screen. I would love a convertible, but I don't think I'll find one with discrete gtx graphics. It also can absolutely not be more than $1500, but preferably no more than $1200-1300.
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If I'm buying a new laptop in a couple of months and can wait a couple months more, I might not go with GTX 860M.
It is a good card no doubt, but can be better especially with the low TDP.
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where are leaks, i'm not the patient type of persons, i'm curious about the G750JM and the Clevo W230SS, and especially and unlocked bios of the maxwell 860M
it will reach P7k 3dm11 easely with some oc @ stock voltage
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This thread reminds me that I badly need a desktop rig if I want to chase the latest and greatest...
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Welp, there are no leaks open to public yet. No one would reveal 800 series prior to 790, due in march.
I talked about desktop cards in my previous post. I referred to mobile as limbo.
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Oh I do hope and believe 20nm is here by the summer
Anything you would like to share about 800 series you know?
I just got new information.
March 12th is when NDA ends about 800M series from Nvidia.
Expect notebook announcements after that date as well as reviews.
GTX 860M is about 15% faster than GTX 765M, almost on par with GTX 770M.
GTX 850M will have DDR3 memory but will be a good deal faster than GTX 760M.
GT 840M will be have 64bit memory bus. Yikes.
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New details about Nvidia`s Maxwell
Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Cloudfire, Feb 12, 2014.