New details on the 8000m series

You aren't going to see 40%+ gains without a die shrink or major change in architecture. So this year's 8970M is indeed going to seem disappointing to you.

 

I wasn't expecting that much improvement. I would have been happy with a 20% or so improvement over the 7970m. That was before I bought an M18x though, so it doesn't matter now anyway

 

OMGosh.....
You upgraded again..... PPPPP

Wow m18x that is monster territory and 680m SLI... it must be a beast and a half...
Any future upgrades after this one failwheeldrive?

 

lol thanks bro, I loved the M17x but I wanted more. Once I pay off the final $1k I owe on the M18x I'm going to get an i7 3740xm and call it a day. Might pick up an AW Aurora later this year

 

You got me thinking to buy a m18x as well soon probably mid of this year. Anyway it's OT but will be curious in a month or so which of the three you liked pros/cons of each..

Enjoy the new system

 

I'll shoot you a pm once I get it to let you know what I think. I just ordered it a couple days ago so it'll probably be about a week before it ships (hopefully less though.)

Waiting till June/July is a smart move though, so you could take advantage of Haswell and the 8970m/780m

 

AnandTech - AMD Reiterates 2013 GPU Plans: Sea Islands & Beyond

 

Yep looks like we will see a chip between pitcairn and taihiti.

Maybe the shaders of taihiti without the increased compute based stuff but with the memory bus of pitcairn.....

 

Remember that Pitcairn XT, that never surfaced, back when the 7000 series was first being rumored?

1408 shaders,
88 texture units
24 ROPs
950/1250
256-bit

 

How can you say they botched the drivers? The engine itself for the game was broken. The texture pop up? That wasn't AMD, did you not read about the ridiculous stupid decisions ID made for Rage game? And have you not read any of the hundreds of interviews and articles about how ID has no association with AMD? Carmack admitted he never uses AMD and during the making of Rage, they used Nvidia products and they have done so in the past also, which is why ATI/AMD always run worse on ID Tech games. How can AMD provide proper OpenGL drivers if ID Tech makes zero effort to provide any help in the development of their engines and their games?

As for the upcoming rebadges for mobile, I really can't think of any reason for anyone to upgrade if they already have a Kepler or GCN part. Unless you are upgrading from a mid-range to high end. Seems like a terrible waste of money.

I'm happy the next GCN is just GCN rebadged since I think AMD on driver side still has a lot of work to do, for both mobile and desktop. Maybe after almost 2 years, AMD will get it right for GCN. Zero core is still not functioning correctly on both desktop and mobile and AMD's switchable graphics performance drop is significant. They claimed their fix would make is 5% slower, but it seems to me, more like 20-30% slower. I'm just lucky I don't play any seriously graphically intense games right now.

 

Hi guys
I have a question for you.
My local PC shop just got a new samsung series 5 ultra ultrabook with 8750m GPU.
I've googled around a bit and found that it's the same GCN architecture as the previous generation and has the following specs:

8750m (GDDR3/GDDR5)
6 Compute Units (384 Stream Processors)
24 Texture Units
32 Z/Stencil ROP Units
8 Color ROP Units
256KB L2 read/write cache

It's all nice and well however I checked the previous cards as to compare and check this:

7750m (GDDR5)
8 Compute Units (512 Stream Processors)
32 Texture Units
64 Z/Stencil ROP Units
16 Color ROP Units
512KB L2 read/write cache

7500m/7600m (GDDR5)
480 Stream Processing Units
24 Texture Units
32 Z/Stencil ROP Units
8 Color ROP Units

Now Toms Hardware had a nice introduction to the 8xxxm series with typical benchmarks and comparison between 7670m and 8790m. The difference was quite immense and the only difference between the 8750m and the 8790m is the memory type and clocks.
It all seems rather peculiar since the new series should show some improvement over the old one and numerically speaking the 8750m looks like .
According to notebookcheck it should have a bit less than 640m performance and I just have hard time believing it could reach that.
Can anyone explain what I'm missing here?

 

it's simple really, AMD is using a different number ranking for the 8000 series, there is a graph somewhere that explains it. If you want better performance you will need a higher in number model.

 

Actually it's confusing as hell same goes with nVIDIA they are trying to challenge us XD

 

Just my 2c... Im pretty confident the 8K series is just going to be a refresh of the 7K's... Maybe some simple modifications and slight performance increases.. BUT, At the end of the day most likely not worth the upgrades.
I have yet to see anything about the 8970m, Which is all i really care about.

 

So basically it will perform worse than 7670m? or even 7500m?
Sounds odd :|

 

There have been so many questionable naming schemes from both camps that I don't think I anything can surprise me anymore.

 

... I was suppose to buy a laptop last August, before college, but I skipped on buying one in hopes of encountering much better upgrades paired with the new Intel Haswell. For this year, I'm also going to wait until July-August, to buy a laptop. Will the 8970m even be worth it?

Also reading from previous posts, is there any possibility that there are going to be an OEM and Retail version of the 8000m this year? Perhaps I should wait for those?