New gaming notebook unveiled - AORUS X7

Nice. So they decided to nerf the power supply too. 180 W isn't enough for 780M systems, so how could they possibly think it'll be enough for 2 x 765M which will use more power? 2 x 75 W GPU + 47 W CPU + everything else = >200 W total system power draw. I guess it's fine if you enjoy watching your battery drain while playing BF4. With a bit of overclocking even my Y500 almost tops out its 170 W brick, and I've got less power-hungry components all-around.

 

Interesting.

Price will be key. I think it's DOA at $2k.

 

Considering the MSI GS70 and Razer Blade Pro go for ~ $1800 and $2500 respectively, with a single 765m, I can't imagine it not being right around the $2000-$2200 price point.

eh? Those are business workstations not gaming notebooks, and GPU performance for games would be lacking in comparison. You can also buy a Clevo for 15-20mm more with 780m. /shrug/

Just some games, BF4 even still, have issues with SLI.

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And looking at the above picture, to be honest, I would rather they forego the hard drive bay and use it for additional battery. Dual mSATA is enough for this type of machine, IMHO.

 

Yeah, I agree, I don't think 180W is enough. Here's a link to a system with 765sli system, and it tops out at 208W, albeit that's a slightly unrealistic real world load, but I think this system needs a 240W brick, which would allow some overclocking.

Review Schenker XMG P723 (Clevo P370SM) Notebook - NotebookCheck.net Reviews

 

Not gonna lie, first thing that went through my mind when I saw the design was "damn seems like they ripped off Asus"

 

This one versus the latest 4k Gaming laptop by LENOVO Say Hello To Lenovo's 4K Gaming And Entertainment Laptop - Forbes.

IMO the one from lenovo looks more stylish than the AORUS and the display, I wonder how much will this one casue with that 4k screen. What do you guys think? BTW should we make a thread about this new 4k gaming laptop?

 

Really liking the looks of this thing... very impressed! If it was a 15" I'd be all over this. Very curious to see the price.

 

Y50 is a beautiful notebook, no doubt about that. But it really lacks the power to drive the 4K display with gaming. Its nowhere near what it should have. GTX 860M/M270 is too weak.
But it is nice to have 4K in other areas too.

 

Yeah that HDD definitely needs to go.

They've got my attention though. Could this be the next thing? No, but damn it looks good.

 

With 4K though you should be able to game at 1920x1080 still and not even notice the difference because of the DPI. I'd rather have the 3K screen and game at 1600x900.

It would be nice if they made extra battery optional in the HDD bay. Even if you had to plug it in the mainboard separately.

 

Wow, haven't seen that Y50 yet either, thanks for the link! That looks great too! I'd LOVE to see that 4K screen in a touch version! Gotta ask though, how can adding a touch panel add an extra pound in weight lol?

The Aorus does have a similar exhaust look to the Asus at the rear, but that's about it IMHO (of course I've always loved the looks of the ROG line)... love that the Aorus is all aluminum as well instead of a big hunk of plastic like the Asus or my MSI :thumbsup:

 

It can't be 15" because of SLI. Nobody has yet succeeded in cramming dual GTX-level graphics in a 15" or smaller chassis. There are the Lenovo machines but those are SLI of GT-level GPU's. The thin design here necessitates a wide chassis even more than, say, the thick and beefy Clevo and Alienware 17" and 18" models because of airflow.

You haven't been looking close enough. The nearly identical fan grills aren't the only thing that is a near copycat of the G750 industrial design. There are also the single hinge, beveled edges, cut corners, and ridges on the lid.

 

So this comparison (courtesy of Aorus and XoticPC websites):





I guess there are similarities, so they both have single hinge and angled vents in the back. That's where the similarities end.


As far as pricing the Gigabyte P27K 17" notebook is about $1300 to start with 765m, i7-4700MQ, HDD (two mSATA + one SATA slot possibilities). So thin it up a bit and throw in another 765m better not add another $700 to the price of the unit. Maybe $250-300.

I think I'm sold on it. Good thing it's not for sale yet, I'd probably do an impulse buy, lol.

 

You're giving way too little credit to the similarities I pointed out. They clearly based it on the ASUS G750 design but added just enough variation as to not get sued, although that remains to be seen. But anyone who's even remotely familiar with the G750 will do a double-take when he sees the X7.

 

You mean like the umpteen million all look alike designs out there already? /shrug/ I won't worry about it. Leave it to the lawyers. It won't affect performance or size and specs, so meh.

 

"Umpteen million all look alike designs out there already" because how many gaming notebooks are Clevo or MSI barebones? I don't seen anyone getting away with copying and selling a notebook based on the Alienware ID.

"It won't affect performance or size and specs" but it could affect availability if they do get sued.

 

Workstation card take nvidia driver and game just fine, and gaming card swap is also possible.

Clevos are like 30mm more.

Review Schenker XMG P703 (Clevo P177SM) Notebook - NotebookCheck.net Reviews

 

G750 is angled upward. Slimmest near the user, and increase in thickness to the back. Its a Jet fighter
X7 is flat

G750 have vents on the back. It clearly have ports on the sides where X7 have vent holes.
X7 have vents on the back and on the sides.

G750 doesnt have ports on the back
X7 have 3 ports on the back

G750 have mouse buttons
X7 doesnt have mouse buttons

G750 have two long lines running on the back of the lid
X7 have 3 short lines, 2 on the sides and on on the top

G750 have power button on the top right
X7 have power button in the middle on the top of the keyboard sourrounded by vents

G750 have the speakers hidden.
X7 have the speakers on both of the sides, near the user.

G750 have a small panel on the bottom to get to the components
X7 removes the entire bottom.

G750 doesnt have any moving piece attached to the panel that user can see when typing
X7 have clearly a moving piece visible in the middle

G750 have LEDs near the touchpad to see HDD activity etc
X7 have none


etc etc etc.
Asus isn`t gonna sue anyone. Asus G-series is angled like a Jet fighter. That is the purpose of their design. X7 is not. It is flat.

Silly discussion

 

Well, I guess every laptop with a single hinge and twin rear vents is a copycat lol... Let's all sue! . I only jest

I really like Asus' design, have owned a G73 and G46.... but just can't see this as a direct copy. Body is squared off more, not to mention all aluminum and significantly slimmer. Plus, I like the exhaust on both the rear and side back corners, should help when mobile and not just sitting on a desk.

Excited about this new line! I look forward to seeing the x5 as well when released. Modern styling and design is more than welcome in my book. Its my single biggest annoyance with my GT60. Awesome performance but feels like a hunk of cheap plastic.

 

You can beat around the bush all you want but it's not unprecedented. Have we all forgotten Apple suing Samsung over their design patents and winning that huge $1 billion settlement and pulling the disputed Samsung devices from stores? And the disputed similarities in that case had far less merit than this as far as I'm concerned.

 

Depends on what Clevo you look at, P170SM is only about 1.7" max thickness ~ 40mm thick. Plus they all weight like 2 lbs (~ 1kg) more, and the HP and Dell aren't nearly as powerful GPU. It's different strokes for different folks. Great that we have choice, eh?

Stop trying to control something that's outside of your control. Who cares. Let the lawyers work it out, we're here to enjoy what they have. Imitation is the biggest form of flattery. And Asus isn't half as uptight as Apple. Any company could sue for any reason. Heck Chrysler sued GM for using a similar Jeep grille and lost, and the Jeep grille *IS* their logo. So you have your opinion, like the rest of us, it's been heard, trying to convince us doesn't gain anything.

 

Review One K73-3N (Clevo P170SM) Notebook - NotebookCheck.net Reviews

I didnt do the measurement.

 

And there's this: http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np8275-clevo-p170sm-p-5913.html



In any case it doesn't matter. It's a different notebook for a different need. Not everyone wants a Dell or HP workstation.

 

5.3cm vs 2.9cm

Its almost twice as fat

 

You are seriously overreacting. Similarities like the 'ridges on the lid? Those don't look anything like each other.






They look slightly similar from the back, but unmistakably different from any other angle.

 

We're only just now beginning to see improved cooling designs across the line from all companies. This does not surprise me. However, I would love to see it in action, first hand. The multiple cooling modes is an attractive feature that I'd love to see on every gaming laptop out there. Cooling is probably the most important aspect of a gaming system, when it comes to performance and stability.

It looks pretty sexy for a gaming laptop. Still a little too much plastic for my taste, though.

 

lol its full aluminum. You find no plastic there except keyboard and speakers

Apple, the biggest patent troll alive. Sadly the teenagers and the hipsters keep giving them money so they have enough money to do whatever they want :/

 

Not trying to do a "workstation" talk, it is more about thickness and cooling design.

fan control is not new to be honest, just that oem designed to lock that feature up. It is indeed nice to see someone doing it right. A step forward on fan control would be dynamic throttling on cpu/gpu, which would be awesome. Something like a flat throttle is just bringing back ~10years old tech.

 

I agree. That's my whole point too, someone doing it right without adding bulk or unnecessary crap. Razer had a great start in the market but their first attempt with the paltry specs at three times the price of anything else was a joke. But their latest 14 inch offering is nice, except the screen is abysmal. This time around, it seems Gigabyte is doing it right with Aorus.

And yes, fan control has always been a stickler for gamers, because too many OEM's lock it to their specific temperature table. Not sure what you mean by dynamic throttling though? It's already dynamic in that it changes based on the temp of the unit. I remember using speedfan religiously with my desktop builds and having user fan profiles was awesome.

 

I'll reserve judgement until Gigabyte releases the price, so let's just hope they don't pull a Razer.

 

Yeah, but it looks like it is all plastic. I don't like that. For some reason it looks cheap to me, but I bet the construction is very good. It actually looks like a great portable gaming solution.

 

Instead of changing speed of the fan, change the clock/state on the components so that the fan speed remain (semi) constant. (like desktop gpu per say)
What usually happens for "cool" fan profile is the oem just force the cpu to 800mhz(or w.e lowest state) and gpu to p1/p2(even p8...) state and viola - done...

 

^I think this may already be an option if you check out the advanced options in power management. Under cooling you could select either passive or active, and Windows defines each as:

Active: fan spins up before CPU downclocks
Passive: CPU downclocks before fan spins up

Might be worth playing with those and see if those descriptions are accurate.

 

I'm surprised Gigabyte is making a gaming notebook. It would appear as though they're exploring new territory. It's one hell of a start, though. I just hope this thing isn't priced too high.

 

It's not new territory for them. They've been making gaming notebooks, e.g. their P series.

 

Well, in terms of SLI gaming, it's new. At least for them. It seems to also be somewhat of a "premium" brand for them that they're hoping to launch.

 

The OS does not have perfect control of the fans. For the Alienware 18 at least, passive cooling does not prevent fan from spinning even when temperatures are well under control. There is some homework that the manufacturers need to do and there's no way around it unless they play ball..

 

I love this quote on the massive memory section.

" The unrealistic performance will leads you all the way to pure gaming dominance."

 

This thread:

 

8GB 880m saying Hello. Obviously, vRam pwn sdRAM any day.

 

That VRAM is useless if you aren't gaming at 4K+.

 

You could hear hair dryer mode kicking in in that Linus video. It was pretty obvious how the background whine if the fans disappeared after he closed it at the end to do a size compare. I suppose that's to be expected with dual 765M and an i7.

 

Especially in mobile gpu's, we are currently no where near ready for gaming at that resolution with max or decent settings. Take a look at these charts with desktop cards:





But in regards to this notebook, everything looks great except these 2 issues: The 180W PSU and judging from the internal pics the inability to upgrade the GPU's. Although in regards to the PSU issue, you may be able to just buy a 240W PSU or so with the same connector and use that for some stable overclocking.... but with the actual GPU's I prefer something that I can just upgrade down the line instead of having to buy a whole new notebook when you need more power. I do like that they added a 3rd storage option for a 2.5" drive, since I like to have a 1.5-2tb drive for all my games, 1TB mSata drives are way too unreasonably priced at the moment.

 

Well, there's the typical tradeoff between upgrade potential and thickness of the device. Everything being soldered on allows it to be thinner than it would be otherwise.

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So yeah

1st laptop seems to have an alienware design
2nd looks like the msi GE-series
3rd looks like a macbook, so razer blade chassis?

Lawsuits be comin'

 

Yea, and ASUS marketing their tablets while actually saying something like "better than an iPad" isn't a lawsuit-maker?
Anyway, who cares. I just want it

 

Is it likely we will see custom resellers (I.e Gentech/XoticPC etc) stocking this Gigabyte barebone laptop?

 

Gigabyte are not allowed to say they got better performance than other specific models from other brands? Seriously?

 

Here is the X7 Command Centre

Looks easy to use and among the features you got "Fan Tweak". Probably where you can set parameters on how fast the fan should go etc
Cool stuff




And the pictures we see on the X7 website is misleading. The notebook is actually black. Like very black. I thought it was greyish.









Here is a cheesy commercial

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Right. If you want to upgrade don't buy this laptop. And to be honest from all the laptops I've owned, I always thought I'd upgrade, but by the time I get there, there's lots of other new stuff that I want in a laptop that I can't justify the $500-600 to upgrade when it will perform like a laptop worth $1000. I'd say I'd upgrade CPU over GPU though. They usually drop in price a lot more quickly and allow you to buy a lower end CPU initially, and pop in a new one later when they get cheap.

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