Next Gen MSI Notebooks getting a new look?

Keep telling yourself that. The cost difference between a 180W and 240W PSU from a mass production/mass buy standpoint would be a mere few dollars. You're telling me you would refuse to buy a laptop because it cost $10 more but came with a larger PSU?

 

Yes to be fair I will agree on that, maybe they will replace GT/GX models when 20nm Nvidia Maxwell and ATI Crystal series gpu's are available, anyways this is what I am hoping for, though I wouldn't hold my breath waiting .

 

I don't understand his expectations there is no new GPU neither for mobile or desktops, broadwell will only happen after the 1st semester and kaveri ain't even launched and at first will happen for desktops, or SO it looks like

Ces should be were they launch new chassis designs, but so far I'm only seeing those Convertibles. The most interesting thing was streaming, yeah...

dosed, mixed and stirred, not shaken, from taptalk

 

Which is the most expensive notebooks that cost $2000-$2800.

"Lets give the middle finger to our trusty gamer fans that pay premium and sell them the same crappy design but with new hardware"

 

That giant red logo is rather ugly, in my view.

 

I actually like the design and look of the GT series, 15.6 inchers haha. I wouldn't mind a new design inside, remove the 2.5 bay, make it only a single bay for 3 msata, remove optical drive and put SLI 780ms with dual fans

 

I agree. I normally am indifferent about those things, well prefer the plain look actually, but that thing is ugly. Unfortunately it lights up so it's not just like a decal you can remove. I guess you can always skin it.

 

Rate these notebook designs:

Personally I think Alienware 17 comes in #1. Then Asus G750 as #2. Then, P177SM slightly ahead of MSI GT70 which get the last place.



Clevo P177SM



Asus G750JW



Alienware 17




MSI GT70

 

ASUS, Alienware, Clevo, MSI.

EDIT: How dafuq are we supposed to rate if you keep changing the pictures? Talk about backhand tactics. You just removed the shot that showed the Alienware's light-up touchpad which is a big design flaw for many people.

EDIT 2: And you just changed them again, this time posting less "glamourous" shots of the ASUS and MSI.

EDIT 3: And again. Every time I refresh this page it's something different ROFL.

 

Chill down. I had to find pictures with the right angle that shows everything. Plus I had to find a GT70 picture that shows how much stickers GT70 comes with.
I`m done now

 

That ASUS rocks!

The Alienware is not bad although i liked the previous version a bit more.

The MSI looked good almost 3 years ago when it came out. It is kind of boring now.

The Clevo looks horrible IMO. That touchpad is hurting my eyes.

 

lol no i wouldn't care about $10 even at $100 but I didn't go with Alienware because of the thickness. also another thing to consider is if you sell 500 units , 10*500 = $5000, is not that much but hey now days companies just care about increasing their profits nothing else. Also I am not trying to delude myself in saying that production cost could be reason, I was just speculating on the reason. But you are right , it is inadequate in the long term. Either the engineering team probably don't think anyone will game longer than 8 or 10 hour which was kinda assuming alot. But all in all the system works for the short time. It was a trade off that I decided to make when I bought the laptop. buying a laptop is about making trade offs , some of you spend extra cash to get everything you want, some of you focus on cooling , and some of you make a balance choice. For me the MSI was balance choice, used to be sager but they now force you to upgrade your laptop when you wanna upgrade your GPU (haven't kept up with the news about , could be wrong). So what if the PSU isn't that great it, Realistically I only hit the issue once since I was on break during college , Now I am working so I don't have time to play 6 hours straight. So in the end it all depends, If you really are gonna play it till the limit or are you gonna overvolt.

 

So
#1: Asus
#2: Alienware
#3: MSI
#4: Clevo

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I agree that the Asus is beautiful too

 

At least with the MSI you can wire up you own replacement and the motherboard is not hard locked like the alienware.

 

Wait i thought the MSI Power control was hardcoded into ECU or was fixed into Power board, I remember that someone put a 240 W and it only pulled 180W , if its not an issue then why are people complaining, just buy a 240 W PSU and mod it urself (-_-) ....

 

The P177SM is an abomination, which shows how out of touch Clevo is with modern design. They should just stick with making the boring, office worthy looking machines.

I mean, it's like they accepted the first design brought to them by one of the interns.

 

With respect to aesthetic appeal, IMO the 14" Blade and 17" Blade Pro beat all of these hands down.

 

imo the Clevo would actually look pretty good if they got rid of the symbol on the touchpad. I'd say ASUS>Alienware>Clevo>MSI if that were the case, otherwise the Clevo looks the worst.

 

the exterior of my gt60-20d261 could come wrapped in duct tape and i wouldn't care. I didn't buy it for looks.

p.s.
no, 15" don't " get all the love". the 3k is the first non-apple laptop with > 1080p in at least 4+ years. i've had my pocketbook waiting. and ONE model does not a trend make. i'm hopeful that it expands soon. i would have liked a GX60 3k, but that wasn't happening. since 15.4" isn't coming back anytime soon, this is what i'm left with. it IS time for 17" & 18" to get higher res screens, but don't act like it's been all wine and roses in camp 15". that couldn't be farther from the truth.

 

I wish there more more fat notebooks like some of the ThinkPads. Dunno what it is about fattys but I think they're sexy as hell. I don't have this view about women or anything, just notebooks

edit: Like this. Professional as hell

 

This is why I bought a Clevo. I don't want something with flashy lights all over it. It would be embarassing to be seen with an Alienware as a business professional.

 

^That's one of the things I kinda liked about MSI; it wasn't over-the-top-flashy like Alienware. Really, my only complaint is the "fake-chrome" accents (like the touchpad buttons, speaker grills, and surround for the camera). I love MSI's angled corners, and the fact that it comes with features like keyboard lighting (which can be turned off) is a bonus. I really don't care what they put on the case lid, all I'd ask is that it be flat enough that I can apply a decal or something on it--if I want.

I wouldn't be afraid to have my old GX660R in a corporate meeting. It's not that flashy. Plastic, but not flashy.

 

Very mysterious, he can't say what kind of graphics card it contains, but it's slightly faster than than the 765m and the display is 3200x1800 resolution?

 

Probably 860m then.

 

neat...but meh. give me power over slim any day of the week. i'd rock a 15" laptop that was 6" thick if it could blow the socks off an ultra-high-end desktop SLI setup.

 

So your preference is something like the Osborne form factor?

 

if it had the power of, say, 4x 780ti's, then yes...i'd rock it.

 

Just imagine the frame rate you would get on that 52x24 resolution display.

 

Love how we are seeing thinner and lighter gaming laptops. These look pretty interesting.

 

I do like that they are expanding the thin gaming laptop profile. But I hope it doesn't become the next gaming laptop period because embedded CPU and GPU are do not satisfy the enthusiast. I still want my fatty for my DTR that will more or less sit in the same spot 90% of the time.

 

Agreed. If the only way to get a "thin" 15" laptop is to accept a GPU that isn't even in the top 50 of mobile GPU benchmarks, then I'll pass.

 

How much do you think its due to heat issues if using top of the line cards?

 

That is the primary reason. Top end cards will need a lot more copper and fan size and airflow to properly cool.

 

Figures as much, just wished they gave us more options though. I wonder how much more heat would a 770m produce compared to a 765m they're offering.

 

That's more pcb issues of routing 192bit bus.

 

I like MSI's route of at least providing some form of portable but still powerful solution. Seems that's always been a difficult segment to pull off over the years and now with MSI, Razer and a few other companies, we're seeing a rise of the trend.

 

As long as they give us consumers the option to upgrade parts I'm all for it. I hate the fact that Apple & Razer prevents us from doing it or makes it very difficult for us to do so. Also, hate seeing some manufacturers follow in that trend. This is why I don't mind paying someone like Sager because they allow us upgradable options.

 

Right. At least let us upgrade the RAM and storage for crying out loud. Many laptops will void the warranty for doing even that.

 

Buuut imagine all the things that could go horrible wrong if they let the user upgrade RAM? Its a reason why they have these Apple genius working for them. They can safely handle these dangerous tasks!

 

Gotta give credit to Apple, they are the only ones to tell you how to do things and still able to make a major profit.

 

that's just a testament to how stupid your average consumer is. beats and apple are both proof positive that you can offer tepid performance and quality at a premium price--and people will still flock to it for the "look at me, i'm a hipster" factor.

 

I don't think anybody buys Beats or uses Apple to be a hipster...

Beats are pretty mediocre but the core Apple products are usually top notch in specs and build quality.

 

In build quality perhaps, but not specs for the money. And they suck for user accessibility, even swapping out SSD (proprietary) or RAM (soldered). Retina display aside, specs are mediocre.

 

I'm all for being able to change components that are often swapped (RAM, HDD maybe wifi card), but to get a smaller form factor, I assume they have to compromise in terms of placement (due to heating) so I wouldn't mind non user-replaceable batteries or the like.

 

Completely disagree. Years of apple telling consumers that "it's not a flaw, it's a feature" or "you're holding it wrong" or the like...I simply cannot agree with your assessment. Not on either half. Specs wise, you can easily get equivalent performance for half the cost (tablets are a great showcase for this) or you can get BETTER performance for roughly the same money (or in many cases still less). Build quality is a joke. I don't know where this keeps creeping up, but Apple has crap for build quality. MSI builds way sturdier laptops than Apple, yet they are rated abysmally low among competing brands for "quality"--with Apple usually coming out in the #1 position.

What that says to me isn't that Apple builds a better product. It says that its consumers are brainwashed into believing the hype. And that's why Monster and Apple are alike--they both cater to consumers via propaganda that has little basis in reality. A bent coat-hanger can deliver equal picture quality to a monster cable, and a used kindle fire can deliver equal performance to most iPads. But neither is as "pretty" or "in" as having a specific brand-name you can proudly and flashily wear around to "impress" people.

Apart from Retina 16:10 displays, Apple offers nothing compelling to anyone who is an intelligent consumer. Security through obscurity? lol!

 

You lost me at "Apple has crap for build quality." The entire PC industry disagrees with you.

"MSI builds way sturdier laptops than Apple" ROFL more hilarity.

Hey I know what. Why don't you drop your plasticky MSI from shoulder height and I'll go to the Apple Store and "accidentally" drop a 15" rMBP from same height. We'll see who survives the fall.

 

Neither, but you can get exchange immediately in the apple store.

 

I bet that the MSI will survive the fall better...