Next gen Laptop GPU timeline

Nice speculations
But a little bit of in house info (I try to give as much I can without breaking NDA) regarding laptop next gen vga. I was told I can share this, however l ask to skip the questions regarding the source or more info about the subject, what you see here is all you get)

Everyting is subject to change (expecially now that problems rised with turing).

1) early fears and speculations were about that RTX Will skip laptops and next laptop vga Will be GTX 11xx series.
This is half true. Due to increased TDP NVidia only planned to release RTX 2060 for laptops. However laptop manufacturers who ship high end laptops were not happy about this and were able to convince Nvidia to provide RTX 2070 and 2080 chips for them.

2) no plans for GTX 11xx chips
The speculations about this probably originated from the info mentioned in 1).

3) design chips are already in the hands of the manufacturers
Laptop manufacturers already have RTX chips used to design the pcb. Designing and testing a pcb for the big laptop manufacturers can take up to 1-2 months.

4) deadline to build an RTX laptop
Manufacturers are set a deadline, they have to provide a final design before that . That deadline is the official date of annoucement of next gen laptop vga chips. Manufacturers need to come up with a working pcb and possibly a close to final laptop design with the New chips before this date .

5) annoucement date
So the big questions, what is the annoucement date/above mentioned deadline.
Here it is (again, it is subject to change)
2019.Q1
( After rethinking what I wrote I removed the exact date of annoucement, because it might be close to breaking NDA...sorry about this, when I started writing this I plannned to share month and day too. However if you use Google and check Nvidia annoucements made each year, you can guess at least the month )
So no one expect an RTX laptop announcement for Christmas.

 

I sincerely doubt you would be able to tell this if you knew, but are plans to release a MXM RTX 2080 in process?
I'd atleast hope for a RTX 2070 MXM

 

I do not know, however things dont look so good. I heard Turing just has too many new components, so current MXM size is cutting it close. If a manufacturer like Clevo plans to continue MXM, prepare to see larger MXM boards than before, because there is just not enough room on the current MXM standard boards.

+ Extra info: regarding cuda core count (dont know if the exact number has been made public yet, so please dont ask) the GTX2060 Will have performance close to GTX 1080.
The main difference between RTX chips and GTX2060 is that the later Will not support ray-tracing (but Will be a beast for normal games)

 

I really hope I'm able to replace my 1070 with 2070RTX wihout HW modifications.

 

This is exactly what I was hoping for. If this is all true, it will make waiting a lot easier. Shopping around for a gaming laptop and seeing the same GPUs from 2 years ago is frustrating.

 

And if GTX 2060 can be fit into standard MXM 3.0b form factor it will also be a great upgrade too.

 

Isn’t the 2070 more or less comparable to the 1080? How will the 2060 be also?

 

https://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/124169-palit-geforce-rtx-2070-gamerock-premium/?page=9

It looks to be a decent bit ahead of the 1080. If the 2060 is a little slower than the 1080, then that should make for a good gap between the 2060 and 2070.

 

The 1080 is on average 11, 13, and 16 percent slower than the GTX 2070 at 1080p, 1440p, and 4K, respectively.

Even if the 2060 is 40% faster than the GTX 1060, that only puts it in the GTX 1070 range.

 

I think this is where you meant to link to?
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_RTX_2070_Founders_Edition/33.html


I wonder whether DLSS (aka hardware upscaling) will also not be available if mobile cards lack RTX features. Because DLSS seems like it'll be the majority of an actual performance gain (and therefore price justification) for 2060 over 1070, 2070 over 1080, 2080 over 1080ti, where currently the performance delta is a lot less than the price delta.

 

I don't know the point of RTX in mobile if the 2080TI can only manage 60 FPS at 1080P with it on...

 

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Nvidi...000-mobility-lineup-at-CES-2019.374321.0.html

 

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/rtx-mobile-nvidia-2070-2080-ti,38206.html

 

Seems very likely that the new laptop GPUs will be announced at CES 2019. I'm planning on going to CES in person this year, so hopefully I'll be able to get some hands on with some prototypes while I'm there. Fingers crossed.

 

Laptop manufacturers are embargoed from sharing information until January 26th.

 

Looks like GTX 1160 incoming:
https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/pd500220

 

They are referring to the 2060 without being able to call it that right now due to an NDA.

 

Some news outlets inform that version GTX 1160 is coming also.
Is supposedly gonna be cheaper (no RT/Tensor Cores and DLSS support)

 

RTX 2060 Performance Leak

Almost equals the 1070 Ti, dayum.

I guess I'll believe it when I see it. Just doesn't seem like the type of move Nvidia would make.

 

That’s actually a massive leap over the 1060. It’s kind of funny how the slowest Turing card is the only one that fulfills a generational performance improvement (an x60 card being as fast/almost as fast as a last-gen x80 card).

 

So the laptop 2060 / 1160 announcement won't happen along side the desktop 2060 announcement?

As of now the rumor is announcement on Jan 7th (pre-CES), and shipping Jan 15th, which makes the Jan 26th laptop manufacturer embargo date a bit odd...

Ahh, it's a reviewer embargo, not a manufacturer embargo:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Nvidi...000-mobility-lineup-at-CES-2019.374321.0.html

"Nvidia already started to send out samples to OEMs and select testers, but the embargo for reviews will not be lifted until January 26 next year."

 

Yeah Nvidia itself will reveal the GPUs, and the manufacturers will show off the laptops and declare that they have "Next-Generation Nvidia GPUs", but nothing will officially launch/be reviewed until after January 26th.

 

(Well I said GTX 1080, but GTX 1070 Ti is on par with laptop GTX 1080...so...

 

I definitely have to eat crow on this one, I said vanilla 1070 at best.

 

By those numbers it almost reaches 1070 Ti and 1070 Ti is very close to the laptop GTX 1080.

 

I can't wait for the 20 series or Navi based laptops to be revealed in 2019. I'm still rocking my 120Hz 680M Alienware 17 R3 till today and this upgrade will blow my mind and my wallet alike! I wanted to buy the MSI GT75 for a while now but was not being able to do it because of some financial limitations.

My body is ready!

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I'm going to pump the brakes on these 2060 benches. It hit me that Nvidia's pre-release benches for some of the other RTX cards had them 40-45% faster than their predecessor Pascal chips, but real world testing was like 25%.

I hope it's true though.

 

Guess we'll find out soon enough. I'll consider replacing my 980M-based P750DM-G over the next year, so will be paying attention.

Mobile Turing, MW5:Mercenaries, Disco Elysium, Untitled Goose Game -- should be an interesting year for a gamer. Hopefully CPDR will at least be more communicative, but I'm not going to assume a 2019 release for CP2077 given how quiet they currently are.

Perhaps in a parallel universe GRRM finishes his manuscript for ASOIAF #6 and gets a cameo in the Bannerlord release date announcement video, heh.

 

Cant wait to see what these new GPU’s in real time.
Surprisingly I’m more interested in 2060/1160 cards, my next laptop has to be a thin and lite without having crazy loud fans.
I’m still good gaming at 1080p, give me nice 144hz screen and CPU that’s doesn’t throttle and that’s all I need.

 

The RTX 2060 reviews are out now. Here's Techpowerups performance summary at 1080p:



So it is actually faster than both the Vega 64 and GTX 1070 Ti.

That's going to be a great card for mid-range laptops.

 

Excluding the variance in games that run better on one platform or the other it looks about on par with a 1080.. considering desktop variants anyway...

 

And I’ve heard people complain we won’t see to much of a jump in performance.
Looks like a pretty good bump to me.

 

Any chance the HP Omen 17T will get the 2060 or 2070 as options?

 

I’m sure at some point they will.
HP is always a little slow to release new models.

 

Asked and received an answer- mid Feb to late Feb for the 2000 series to be on sale.

MXM type anyways.

 

Wait the HP Omen will use MXM GPU’s?

 

He was probably talking about Clevo MXM boards from Eurocom.

 

Chinese sellers on TaoBao already have the MXM card- I'm waiting on confirmation for certain from a few.

 

Depends on what the notebook TDP is. Will they really allow a notebook xx60 card to use >100W? The desktop variant is 160W TDP, in the same ballpark as the desktop 1080.

 

Took them long enough!

Now that hardware has been announced, I'm surprised no one has made a Turing Notebook discussion thread yet like we had for Pascal notebooks.

 

I think that's the TDP of the entire card, I don't think the laptop GPU is going to have that high of a TDP for the 2060. I'd struggle to understand how it would be over 100W and them keep a straight face about it.