No more overclocking on Nvidia mobile GPUs

Probably none at all.

 

I highly recommend you switch to Android. It's been long since they've stopped sucking. I used to be an iPhone guy too. I'd recommend the OnePlus One, flagship phone at a much lower price than other phones because they rely on word of mouth marketing and save a ton of money.

 

A fab and a foundry are just fancy words for factory, and there is no such thing as a silicon mine. There are semiconductor fabs out there more than willing to use their best processes to make whatever you want. The two large barriers to are starting at 0% market share, and more onerous, starting from scratch with the IP. There is barely enough room in the market for two manufacturers for x86 CPU's or three for GPU's. The Chinese government, renown for its ability to copy, steal from, and strong-arm foreign technology IP, has/had a goal of an indigenous x86 processor, but that is going nowhere, fast. Instead, even they are settling for domestic ARM processors, albeit at a tremendous licensing fee discount.

With ARM processors it is a different ballgame, since the IP for the CPU is licensed, and then different companies can modify it for their own designs and pump it out. Whoever can produce it cheaper, add must-have features to it, tailor it for their own hardware designs, and strike supply deals with other companies can make it ahead. There is a lot more room in that kind of market for different companies pumping them out since there is a niche for everyone and the underlying technology stays at a roughly equal level between them.

 

I derped out there for a while - forgot that silicon was actually extracted and purified from sand.

Doesn't AMD own the IP for x86-64? It's called AMD64, isn't it?

 

Yes. It and several other technologies are cross-licensed with Intel though, so it is a wash.

 

I'd rather say all mobile systems suck, however Android sucks less than others. I'd call Maemo best, but bad browsing experience destroys the whole idea.

 

There is a crossover between patents and antitrust. By nature, a patent is a sanctioned monopoly. Antitrust is to prevent monopolies. So when a tech is essential to participate in the industry, it is required to be licensed under a "FRAND" agreement. FRAND stands for fair, reasonable, and nondiscriminatory license agreement. These are found with google having to pay M$ for every phone they sell b/c of its IP, everyone paying Samsung for 3G tech, Intel with AMD on x86 (although the patent may be expired by now, I haven't checked). In any case, the point is we will let competition work, but do step in if merger and acquisition deals concentrate too much of any market related to IP. etc.

 

Just like with Linux, Android offers many distributions. OnePlus One comes with CyanogenMod, an awesome privacy-aware google-free version of android.

 

Why is NBR experiencing downtime? I experienced disconnectivity five times in the past 24 hours...

 

nvidia DDoSing us?

 

Just posted this up in the Geforce forums ( https://forums.geforce.com/default/...ing-with-347-09-347-25/14/?offset=203#4462613):

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NVidia, I think it's in your best interest to listen to your customers. Yes, most of us posting on here are enthusiasts, otherwise we wouldn't be posting, but our influence is greater than just our own purchasing power.

Firstly, lots of people who are going to be buying a notebook will scour the net for reviews on various notebooks, and will undoubtedly come across the deserved negative press that you have removed overclocking on your mobile GPUs both on Tech review sites and in notebook/tech forums.

Secondly, for all the people posting in the forums on your recent moves, there are many others that are enthusiasts that agree but do not post, so our numbers are greater.

Thirdly, enthusiasts tend to be known amoungst their friends, families, and work collegues, and are often a source of advice for their technology purchasing decisions - these contacts can number in the 10's, 20's, 30's, who knows how many. And these contacts then pass that information on to other people too.

So, really, what you see with discord at your recent move to block overclocking on mobile GPUs is really just the tip of the iceberg / the top of the pyramid, and the negative impact to your company really goes much deeper. As you know, brand perception is very important, and you will find that all the people I've described will be voting with their wallets, it's a negative effect that you'll feel in the months & years to come - this kind of damage can take a while to repair, trust is important. I suggest you do yourselves a favour & quickly reverse your decision to ban overclocking on mobile GPUs, the impact on your company is a lot deeper and longer lasting than your spreadsheet projections might suggest!

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I do believe it's a bad business decision for them, hopefully an NVidia employee will read it and it will give them something to think about.

 

I appreciate your intention and really hope it will get through.

However, in all honesty - Nvidia isn't the type of company to listen to its consumers. All corporate decisions are made by a group of suit-wearing men in a meeting room who are all very rich and don't care about a random person who posted on their GeForce forums. Worst case your post gets deleted or your user account gets banned.

What will likely happen: your post fades away and Nvidia doesn't change its stance on laptop overclocking. Driver mods are released and everyone just sucks it up and lives on with the added inconvenience of waiting for driver mods and installing them in a non-standard way.

Best case, several hundred thousand more potential laptop and even desktop customers see your post and everyone else's, get pissed off, and boycott Nvidia. But that's highly unlikely.

In general, the smaller the company, the better it responds to its consumers. Take for example the Clevo reseller in Singapore. Aftershock. Consumers here last year requested for a 13-14" notebook and they brought in the W230ST and then the W230SS. Now consumers prefer 15-17 inchers, and they've pared down their 13-14" offering to just the W230SS. Earlier on they had a couple less-gaming-oriented laptops in that size category.

 

Well, that's a bit silly, my account's not going to get banned for posting something like that on the Geforce forums. I think there's truth in the content of my post to them, so I think it's in their best interest to listen to customers. As to whether NVidia does a 180 on their overclocking policy, well that remains to be seen. Yes, smaller companies are keener to listen to customer feedback I think.

 

So... After months i finally ordered my p35x v3 with a gtx 980m and now this?

Sent from my GT-I9300

 

If you permanently flash your clocks in the bios, what are the downsides with general use? Wil the gpu always use those boost clocks, even when idle?

Sent from my GT-I9300

 

I do not believe so. My 680m vbios from Slv7 still performs P state changes exactly as I want them. As the lower clocks are often an offset and not an absolute number, they are a little higher but not much. 135mhz in win (P8).

It never boosts until a game starts, then ramps up in steps.

I leave mine alone but if I want to load a new driver I always reset it to stock clocks (afterburner) before, just to play safe.

 

How much you want to bet that the nvidia engineers are sitting at home on there laptops with there 980m's overclocked to 1180m performance with latest drivers just laughing at us going this is what the consumers will get in another year.
All we have to do is flash the 980m with a little bit higher clock speeds and resell it as the 1080m and do it again for the 1180m.

 

Is it hard to permanently flash clock speeds in the bios or fairly doable?

Sent from my GT-I9300

 

Not particularly. It involves a set of relatively simple steps:

1) Edit vBIOS for OC speeds
2) Save the ROM
3) Create a bootable DOS USB (Use Rufus Tool)
4) Copy nvflash.exe and ROM to USB
5) Boot from USB
6) Execute nvflash command directed at ROM (I forgot the exact command, you can search around)

 

I would never attempt it but there is a Maxwell Editor I read about. I just look over in techinferno for one that does what I want. I would not recommend any voltage hike on a new AW though. It would probably melt.

The actual flashing can be daunting when you read up on it but it's really not that tricky once you've done it once. AFAIK the Maxwells have to be disabled in device manager before you can flash it.

 

I have been told that is no good for the 9xx cards. NVFlash for DOS does not work. You have to use the win version and disable the GPU in device manager before flashing.

 

Indeed? That's news...

Two words: screw Nvidia.

 

Yeah, that's from Mr Fox.

It might have something to do with UEFI but more likely NV screwing with us

 

The greatest irony in all this is by attempting to 'safeguard' us from the potential risks of overclocking, all NVIDIA have managed to achieve is making overclocking considerably more risky and hazardous than it already was to begin with.

Sent from my Nexus 5

 

God, and to think that a couple months ago I was thinking about getting a desktop with GTX 970 SLI or a P650SE. I'm glad I decided to hold out until the summer. I can't believe we haven't heard from them since the 'oh, it was a bug that took a decade to discover' nonsense.

 

Ok so I'm sure this was posted before here but this article just made me scream out "I LOVE YOU MAN!!!...YOU GET IT!!"
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-forcefully-overclocking-mobile-gpus/

 

It seems like one of the main problems with this situation is that, even without overclocking, nVidia's current mobile GPU's are just better. I'd rather have a stock clocked nVidia GPU than an AMD GPU at this point. Hopefully that changes. Obviously every market is better when there is strong competition between players.

 

I disagree. Because of Nvidia's actions in recent years, I would have bought an AMD GPU but for it not being offered on my current machine of choice. Regardless of performance, I, and evidently a growing number of other consumers, would rather support a company that has a decent product (not to say it does not have faults) over performance if the performance divide is not so great as to prevent the use and enjoyment of the product for my, or others, needs. I will not immediately repurchase another card due to finances and already possessing my current video card, but in the future intend to support the competition and use my purchasing power to tell Nvidia that its behavior is unacceptable. The WCCFTech article is a start. It presents issues to shareholders, which may have concerns about NVidia's bottom line. There should be additional links added in the comments of that article to show this is a concern on many more forums. This will show it is not just a couple hundred, but reaching further in the laptop community and that it must be addressed for the community as such.

Edit: 1) We need to tell Nvidia, in no uncertain or conditioned terms (if there was something that didn't overheat, if there was something blah, blah blah, then I'd buy from AMD), that their behavior is inexcusable. This is by not buying their products, period.
2) We should seek to get enough renown so as to get similar articles to this ( http://seekingalpha.com/article/2875336-nvidia-the-repercussions-of-ramgate) published in places where investors read, so as to show investors we can have some effect on market share in the laptop segment, or an effect on NVIDIA's bottom line.

This should be in addition to the efforts discussed on this thread. Thank you.

 

I know many ppl here already saw this post from SVL7 on techinferno, but i want to quote it once more fore those who didn't :

First of all - I don't think an online petition will change anything, at all. I'm absolutely convinced Nvidiagave this some thorough thoughts in advance.
As always, the "official" statement is very Nvidia-like. It's deceptive, twists the through and most likely is even an utter lie (for some parts).

"GeForce notebooks were not designed to support overclocking."
That statement is wrong in so many ways. E.g. Asus even provides software OC support for its G-series notebooks. MSI (until very recently) stated overclocking headroom as one of the features of their high-end mobile devices. Nvidiahaving the guts to say that all notebooks that have a green GPU inside aren't "designed" for overclocking is a pathetic effort to blame OEMs in general and distract from the fact that it indeed works incredibly well on many higher-end systems.
Of course there are many systems with on-board solutions that do not have the thermal headroom for higher clocks, more volts, etc., however that's not *all* systems and certainly not the ones that actually got overclocked. Due to the driver throttling as soon as the temp gets critical you can't even overclock a system with insufficient thermal headroom and get decent results.
The only systems that get overclocked by a lot of users are those which are very well capable of running the hardware a certain amount above stock clocks. And it works well. Maybe too well in the eyes of Nvidia, see post by @ Brian.

Let's talk about pushing hardware to the limits and potentially endangering the hardware or shortening its life... well the GPUs can handle the additional load with no problem whatsoever. Same silicon is used on desktop cards which run on distinctly higher clocks as well as voltage. " Overclocking is by no means a trivial feature, and depends on thoughtful design of thermal, electrical and other considerations". Yeah, well, the GPU can handle increased current etc. very well, we don't even have to discuss this. Naturally mobile systems are limited by the power supply circuits and so on, but that only means that you can't even reach the max overclock before you run into issues, so even less harm done.
Assuming the average power users is not a bencher (and I think that assumption is reasonable), an overclock aims to maximize performance while maintaining stability, all within a thermal framethat allows the GPU to run without thermal throttling. If we assume this to the be regular aim of someone who overclocks his notebook, all the issues that Nvidiapoints out are invalid. Cause the GPU itself is very well capable of handling additional load, and you can't push a mobile system so far that you'd get to limits where you're above speeds, power draw levels etc. that you see in desktop parts, cause by this time (assuming the power supply circuits could hold up, which they don't) you would have run into heat issues a long time ago, resulting in a throttling GPU.
That's why this point is completely invalid as well.

I don't say you can't damage your GPU with overclocking. Most people actually that manage do damage their systems with overclocking don't damage the GPU itself, but the vram (e.g. those certain users that seem to have a fetish for high memory overclock to compensate for their lack benching skills...). Yet I don't think this point is that important at all. There are easier ways to damage a system, and people always manage to do it. So far I haven't killed a single GPU with overclocking, and I seriously abused some of them.

"There was a bug introduced into our drivers which enabled some systems to overclock"It's not like I can proof it, but this really, really stinks. If this hasn't LIE written all over it then I don't know what a lie is. And Nvidias current track record certainly isn't helping their credibility *cough* 3.5GB *cough*. At least ALL mobileNvidiaparts ever since Fermi, heck even the G92 generation, definitely allowed to be overclocked. Every single NvidiaMXM part had the ability to overclock. Same goes for the GM104 Maxwell series as well as GM204.
I can't say for sure why Nvidiadecided to kill overclocking for mobile parts, but some strong points have been raised in this thread already. First of all it certainly has to do with money. Not enough competition helps, you can do whatever you want basically. (Move you ass AMD and release some new MXM ****...!!).
Recently the Nvidiarebadges have been basically worthless thanks to certain vbios mods . Did you ever notice that +135MHz limit on Kepler mobile (yeah, desktop parts don't have this...). That's definitely related with making rebadged cards with higher clocks more of an option.
Disabling overclocking makes the point a lot more clear. You want more speed? Buy a new card. It's the same one, but it runs faster. A bit. Cause we want you to sell another one in a couple of months.
Yeah, **** you guys.

Which brings me to an important point (which unfortunately won't be followed by most users):
Don't buy Nvidia if you don't approve of what they're doing. That would be the only way to actually change anything. I know it won't happen, people will still go and buy, upgrade... and Nvidia will never change. It needs to hurt them before they consider changing anything. That's also why we needAMD around. See G-Sync, the whole GK110fraud with Titan, then 780 and then 780Ti. Not to mention the 970...

Nvidiais clever enough to increase the pain level in small steps, +135Mhz limit... right, we got a workaround for that, all fine. No more vbios flashing... right, we got rid of that as well, all fine. No more overclocking by software... whoopsie. We might find a workaround. Or we flash the vbios. But what's NEXT? No more working drivers with unsigned vbios? Well, that'd be my bet.

That's the way hardware seems to take these days.
For most guys it didn't start to become noticeable until secure flash was introduced. All in the name of security. Certainly not because a manufacturer doesn't want you to use a modified firmware that allows for much refined control of your hardware, nooo... it's about security. To keep away those nasty firmware rootkits that everyone suffers from, because they're so easy to code and work on any mobo with ease. (Hint for the thick ones: look up 'sarcasm').
Secure flash... making it virtually impossible to flash unsigned firmware by means of using software. Who profits? Microsoft. Big style. No more Windows activating per bios mod. Locking out Linux distros. All in the name of security. Cause that works so damn well. By the way, same reason nvidiais locking down on vbios flashing. No more overclocking, but also locking out nouveau, the open source nvidiadriver that is mainly based on tons of reversing of thenvidiablob. All in the name of security.
What's next? Intel boot guard. No, wait, that's already here. Good bye Coreboot.
Ah right, Intel PFAT... good bye bios mods in general. And ME mods.
Locked out hardware can be exciting, if there's a lock. Cause I can still afford lock picking tools and teach me some skills. It's actually a challenge, it's fun. However, if there isn't a lock but instead a bloody atomic shelter that's been concreted over... the fun ends.

The heck, if it was just for money making... I'd even pay $100 for an overclocking warranty.
The only OEM that ever went with this is Intel. And it was distinctly cheaper




That's how i see it. You keep buying nvidia, you approve what they are doing. If you keep buying their products, just don't post here.

 

ironic they did this, especially when I have the money to buy a pretty nice laptop right now. Guess I'll just wait and see how things pan out. No money for you Nvidia!!!

Also was waiting for big Maxwell for my desktop, but screw Nvidia I'll just go with AMD when they release the 390x.

 

Great post by svl7. I agree with this, a lot. I was looking out for hardware in order to build a desktop. Mostly looking at 970 and 980. Well let me tell you that I will be waiting for an answer from ATI first.

 

I will buy whatever future GPU performs the best. That doesn't mean I support NVIDIA. My reasoning is thus:

If R9 M390X can best the GTX 1080M with or without overclock, then I will go with AMD. However, if the R9 M390X significantly falls behind the GTX 1080M, even with overclocking then I will go NVIDIA.

Again, it would not be a show of support for NVIDIA but rather a show of disapproval for AMD. I cannot support a company that does not put in the effort to make a competitive product for the laptop GPU market. If AMD continue to neglect their mobile lineup then I will continue to neglect purchasing their products.

I want to be able to support AMD, but it will require them to actually make a product that's worth buying. I very much hope they can do that this year and allow me to send money their way.

I am sick of NVIDIA's antics but at this stage they are a quasi-monopoly in the laptop gaming market. There is no other option for those looking for the absolute best performance you can buy in a notebook.

Will the R9 M390X change this? Here's hoping it can!

Sent from my Nexus 5

 

This 100%. I really hope people put their money where their mouth is and actually support AMD. If AMD wasn't around, Nvidia would be releasing even more incremental products and milking even worse. If you can't see the writing on the wall you're blind.

Saying you won't support AMD until they can release a product worth buying won't help them release better products. They need revenue, and they've needed it badly for awhile. Once they have that revenue they can invest in better products.

 

Do they need revenue even for better ideas? Troll-picture with 4GB means 4GB was darn good. But their short-time movies were pathetic. Can't support good if they don't try. Calling an eight-module CPU as an eight CORE CPU? Pfff.
Lets wait and hope for now.

 

If you use 4k monitors, amd is currently competitive. Otherwise it is a wait til between April and June.

 

There is, it's called Maxwell Bios Tweaker and the latest version is 1.36. With this nifty tool I fixed a voltage issue on my desktop 970 cards in 5 minutes that nVidia couldn't (or wouldn't) for over 3 months.

Actual flashing was much easier compared to me messing around in the voltage table lol

Haven't tried nVFlash for DOS, but the windows version definitely works. Yes you'll have to disable SLI (if applicable), then disable each card in device manager prior to flashing but it's fairly simple once you've read up on the instructions. There's currently a hacked version that bypasses all checks and will even flash a bios from a different model to your card if you feel brave enough.

 

Hi, would you be able to send me the windows version please, that works with our Maxwell cards?

Mick

 

I would say yes they do actually. I wonder what a Nvidia Engineer makes compared an AMD engineer? The best and brightest will always chase the $$$. Or how many people do they have working on their GPU development compared to Nvidia?

 

So all this talk about "I won't buy nV anymore!" and "They MUST do this and that because...!" is fine and dandy and we do need to rally the troops and all, but we also need to focus a little bit more on plan B, or even C.

Modding drivers would be a re-ocurring issue every time around, several times a month, but modding a bios is a permanent thing. It's been posted in this thread what steps are needed to flash a modded bios, but the actual modding might be a little more tricky for the fainthearted than acceptable.

Prema is a real wizard but I can't be sure he would want to mod each and every bios with increased clocks and voltages since not every card is created equal and some of us might overestimate the safety of their found permanent clocks.
So, we need to look into modding the bioses ourselves and/or get some of us more proficient at it than others so they can assist the rest.

The Maxwell Tweaker is a great tool and there are several sites with explanations and discussions going on about it, unfortunately they are all aimed at desktop cards and that differs a little from laptop cards... I'm just not entirely sure how.

I suggest we read up on it and ask questions about it in the relevant topics and the more of us that are interested in it the more people will want to help us until we have enough experience to write functional How-To's for laptop cards ourselves that are near-idiot proof.

So, the sites I got so far are these:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1467851/...s-editing-thread-gtx-2xx-to-9xx-now-supported
http://www.overclock.net/t/1522651/disable-boost-and-bake-in-max-game-stable-clocks-for-maxwell-ii
http://cryptomining-blog.com/tag/maxwell-ii-bios-tweaker/
http://www.overclock.net/t/1517316/...d-980-firmware-zosons-h2o-and-air-custom-bios
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1838369

I've got somewhat of a rudimentary understanding of it all, but it seems there are correct and quick and dirty ways of doing it. Also I'm unsure how to mod it for voltages and TDP... So if anyone feels brave or knowledgable....


Edit: If you search for 'tijgert' in the overclock.net topics I mentioned you will find some questions I asked earlier about this issue that might help understand modding lapotp bioses.

 

Unfortunately, for me the only way I'd even consider AMD is if they made a single GPU chip that defeated SLI 780Ms handily and didn't overheat like I was shooting it with the hellfire from borderlands 1. AMD is sticking to Tahiti and Tonga and whatever. They're tweaking their hot, power-hungry hardware that has NO PLACE IN THE NOTEBOOK MARKET. They do not care. If I was building a desktop, maybe I could suffice with a single R9 390X if it handily smoked a 980. That's the gamer in me. But I want 120Hz support, maybe a 1440p 120Hz screen if I were to go on desktops. And let me tell you some things:
1 - I need to fullscreen for multiGPU support? No. That means I don't get CrossfireX. Ever. *EVER*. AMD needs to fix that.
2 - I'm sitting in a 33 degree celcius room right now. It's not getting cooler anytime in the year. I'm not dumping 500-600W of heat into my room because I want two AMD flagships. I don't care how powerful they are. I don't care if I can find a big enough power supply. I don't care if I could keep the actual cards cool enough. You are fooling yourself if you believe for any reason that AMD are by any stretch of the imagination producing a "good" product. They're producing "powerful" products. They're definitely doing that. But their products are not "good". Just like the GTX 480 wasn't "good". Just like Haswell isn't "good". Strong != good.
3 - AMD isn't bringing out competitive things. AMD's R9 290 and 290X cards are fine, but they're still hot and hungry and most importantly, while AMD is being competitive by price-slashing, they're not bringing anything NEW to the table. It's getting honestly disgusting. nVidia is doing the same thing with Maxwell that they did with Kepler; they launched the midrange models as flagships and don't know how to cut power for the non-flagship. Except this time the power cuts are large, not minuscule; 970 is close to 980 in raw compute power, despite disabled SMMs, and the overclockability (at least not in SLI) is impressive, but on paper it's far lower down the food chain. The 960 however is a massive drop, and not even worthy of being called a "gaming" card. That's entry-level midrange at best. And as much as AMD is being "competitive", they're not "winning" or producing anything capable of "winning"... except at price points. If I wanted to buy a card that gives me 120fps in Dying Light at 1080p and an OC'd 980 can do it but a R9 290X cannot, then it doesn't matter how cheap that R9 290X is. IT CANNOT DO THE JOB, I DON'T WANT IT. Which is the problem for the people that are actually being targeted by this whole fiasco here: the overclockers. The ones who know what they're doing. The ones who're not gonna overdraw their bricks and systems and keep things cool while getting a nice boost in FPS. The actual enthusiasts who chase power.

So yes, Cakefish is right. If buying AMD means purposefully downgrading my system, I'd rather keep what I have for longer, or move to another platform (desktop) where it's not a(s much of a) problem. So AMD needs to bring new things to the table. And not "half-new" things like their supposed new offerings are said to be. But actual new things. Things that make a real difference, and give people incentive to buy. Because I tell you, hanging around those desktop forums full of stupid people? I noticed trends. Before Maxwell's cheap power at low prices, ANY TIME. AT ALL. EVER. Anyone asked for a video card? R9 290. R9 280X. R9 290X. nVidia was in nobody's mouths, and nobody cared to think about them because "expensive for same power" and "bad at higher res". Maxwell came out? People jumped on the still-expensive-for-their-power-compared-to-AMD cards and now nobody considers AMD there. It doesn't matter how much you think AMD is doing fine. They're not keeping the market, because at some point, price becomes no longer a factor when looking for power. End of story.

 

This is a gross misstatement. Although many, if not most people in this world are out for money, there are plenty willing to work for less if it benefits their desires and research. Loyalty should not be overlooked, even though loyalty these days are in sport supply. Professors, researchers, etc. Join universities and companies to support themselves while doing what they love. When lured away by another company, if you have the same research but more resources, equipment, etc. Many will do it. But it is not always all about the money. For example, research the polio vaccine. Instead of patenting it, he gave it to the world.
As to loyalty, it can be betrayed. There are many customers that have brand loyalty. But when a company betrays its customers continuously, loyalty fades to disdain and reactions occur. Here, nvidia betrayed is customers on numerous occasions. This is a culmination of betrayal, not one single act. The customers must show such betrayal cannot stand!

 

Hi, you find it in this forum

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...e-low-and-has-slow-downs.765753/#post-9842169


if you won´t scroll klick here: http://www.file-upload.net/download-9883727/13D8.rom.html

Itś from my GT72 6GB 970M card, if you need any further information which i can find out via software or labels on the card itself, please let me know.


ATM i´m not sure about BIOS OC my card as i´m not wanted to brick it, also i have no glue which setup will be best (a dream would be same vcore +15% GPU/Memory).

Regards

 

GT 840M GM108 384 cores - GT 940M GM108 384 cores with slightly higher clock
GTX 850M/860M GM107 640 cores - GTX 950M/960M GM107 640 cores with slightly higher clock

Go to hell Nvidia. We all know this is one of the reasons why you disabled overclocking

You need MNVFLASH to flash Maxwell cards. Its a slightly modified version of NVFLASH and works under windows (cmd).

Alienware 18 can`t flash with MNVFLASH because it doesnt work under pure UEFI but needs Legacy

 

@n=1: can you shed some light on how you altered the voltages in Maxwell Tweaker? Maybe point us to a good Maxwell Tweaker guide for that? Seems they're all for desktops and, well, not for us.

 

Just to spite Nvidia, on 345.75, I OCed to +200, +350 on the core and VRAM respectively, with a +275 mV voltage offset. CPU was overclocked to 34/35/36/37 and voltage offset by -30 mV. Temps never exceeded 70°C in three different benchmarks: Fire Strike (score was around 4350-4400), 3DMark 11 (score was around P5850-5900), and X-Plane 10 @ 70% clouds setting, a constant 35 FPS.

Now, just need to apply these into the vBIOS and update drivers.

 

Ooops I'm really sorry should've said I used it tweak my desktop cards so I'm not sure if it works the same for mobile GPUs.

EDIT: Added in the guides because why not. See post #599.

 

Nvidia be DDoSing NBR hard

 

I tried to write a small tutorial here:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...vidia-mobile-gpus.771169/page-19#post-9927196

I will try to translate the tweaker tutorial when I have the time.

Small comments on what I just read above:

nvflash does work perfectly, you don't need mnvflash. Make sure you download maxwell II bios tweaker.

 

Well since it doesn't hurt, I used this guide to futz around with the Maxwell bios.

I used the hacked nvflash from here, and Maxwell Bios Tweaker can be found in any one of the downloads in this OCN thread.

 

All this talk of flashing BIOS to overclock, I mean would it be possible to flash a vBIOS that would just unlock software overclocking or is it more involved than that?

Also, boycotting Nvidia is a good idea, but problem is, if I want a laptop with a high performing GPU I'm going to buy what works best for me. Sure if AMD is close, I'll likely opt for them, but at present they can't compete with Nvidia Maxwell, not only from a performance perspective but from a performance per Watt metric. If it takes 25% more power and generates 20% more heat, even if it's $100 cheaper, I'm still not sure I'm interested.