No more overclocking on Nvidia mobile GPUs

Gross Misstatement, hardly my friend. What you've just said is very much the exception and not the rule. O wait I forgot love for your field of work and research will provide for your family. Carry on.

 

My suspicions as well. If it's true and they keep it up, they will get caught. And when they do it'll be even worse for them.

 

For the specific jobs I'm talking about, either would provide for your family. The pay is anywhere from the approximately 67 percentile to 97th percentile on American income scale. With that being said, I do agree that when given the opportunity, everyone wants breathing room. But one truth survives and it is not money dictates and rules all. It is the strongest desire wins to dictate actions. Money can facilitate those desires, can be the desire itself, or can be a necessary desire for a further desire. So yes, many choose money, but not for the sake of money.

 

Here's something I whipped up this evening just to spite NVIDIA.

 

Nice work Brother Fox. I'll have to do this once I'm back home.
Yet another feature Nvidia are screwing mobile users with.

 

Yeah... one might conclude that executive leadership at NVIDIA hates laptops and/or laptop owners, seeing how they are constantly doing something to shaft us.

 

I have to say that if there is truly any fighting between desktop and laptop owners over this, its very disconcerting to me. Already we have division in the gaming community between PC and console gamers and now even within PC gamers themselves? I am a desktop PC gamer and this blocking of overclocking news upsets me to the core. I am already pissed at "the man" stopping Android users from flashing custom roms and rooting our phones which we fully own through locking bootloaders, etc.
I really hope that Nvidia decides to change their mind. Its inexcusable to stop overclocking on the 900m series and not the 700m/800m series when the former consumes much less power and is more ripe for overclocking.
I'd understand if I was only renting a laptop that I couldn't overclock it, but it is my machine and I should be allowed to overclock it to my heart's content. If I break it, then I won't use the warranty. Nuff said.

 

I really hate Nvidia right now. Years of bottled-up rage stemming from all their artificial limitations, but this latest overclock block was the last straw.

 

Just tested it with two OpenGL titles (Wolfenstein: The New Order and Quake II) and it works flawlessly... window mode or full screen.

 

Here the link for the 970M 6GB stock BIOS from GT72 (QIII/14) if anyone missed to save it http://www.file-upload.net/download-9883727/13D8.rom.html

In general, can anyone just try to " rename" all the 970M into an GTX970 for example (or all 970M alias to destkop alias) in the vBIOS ? So then the official driver would not recognize the mobile chip and allow OC as well? did that work?

I remember such in focus of Quadro/FireGL cards in the past, my last ATI 5870M also will promp up as FireGLsomething and everything went fine. Okay the only thing which would not run then is the nVidia Experience autoconfig for games but ... i mean.

Regards,
aVa

 

I get what you mean - GeForce Experience is a useless piece of bull excrement. Even more so after I disabled Battery Boost, and if I game, it's always when I'm plugged in.

 

GFE is like that last 500MB of memory on the desktop 970 -- vestigial, irrelevant, useless.

 

I agree, but we don't want clockblocking on Kepler either! (I see the breakdown in logic between the two though!)

 

Bl**dy Hell Mr Fox, that's a deep voice, you sure you don't compete in WWF - "GONNA BRING NVIDIA SOME PAAAIIIIN!!!". With Shadowplay, is it just disabled on Optimus notebooks, because I use Shadowplay without any major hacks on my Optimus disabled notebook. I just created a shortcut with the following included:

"C:\Program Files (x86)\NVIDIA Corporation\NVIDIA GeForce Experience\GFExperience.exe" -shadowplay

(Although there's a tab for Shadowplay in GFE, so I don't know if I even needed to do the above - found the above solution on the internet so never found out if it works without doing that.)

 

What a voice. Ever considered doing radio? Awesome video my friend. Thanks for it

 

And actually makes your system slower. Perfect analogy haha!

 

Agree about the booming Fox voice LOL!

That shortcut tweak was required to enable mobile ShadowPlay during its first few months when ShadowPlay was "officially" desktop-only, but the fix didn't work on Optimus notebooks. Since GFE 2.0.0, official notebook support was added to all GTX cards, both with or without Optimus. You can tell because you have a ShadowPlay tab in GFE. "Unsupported" GPUs like my non-GTX 650M do not have the tab and ShadowPlay is crossed out in GFE, however I can still use ShadowPlay just fine with the shortcut parameter. Hooray for Nvidia artificial limitations, amirite?

I believe Fox's video only implies that desktop capture does not yet work on Optimus systems, even with the reg fix. It's possible that getting desktop capture to work with Optimus is the reason Nvidia is delaying its official rollout on notebooks just like they did with ShadowPlay initially, but still, artificial limitations suck.

 

I doubt that you can capture a desktop with shadowplay.

P.S. I was scared with his voice for a moment. Still not sure if he used voice scrambler or not

 

You may not be able to capture a desktop PC like you would a Pokemon, but you can sure record OpenGL/windowed games and screen with it, as long as you are non-Optimus and using that reg fix! In fact, Fox's video was recorded using ShadowPlay Desktop Capture.

Yeah I have my doubts too about that being Mr. Fox's real voice. It doesn't sound human. God-like or alien or something.

 

one thing we can still do at least is use the older driver to figure out what clock speeds work for your specific card, then just apply those settings via vbios flash. Not the best method, but it will work for the immediate future.

Also going to debate every single person I can in that overclock.net thread that is full of ignorance. Might be a waste of time, but I don't care. Hope some of them will see some sense.

Edit: And thanks for your videos Mr. Fox

 

Thanks, you surely did read what I wrote and the original post I replied to, did you? Did you?
Because I read Robbo's post three times before replying and twice now and STILL believe he believes that registry tweak is needed for ShandowPlay in general and not about enabling another one of the ShadowPlay's features like record desktop.

 

I did, and I explained that to him before you replied to him

Take it easy you crazy Ivan LOL

Edit: I think you're a little confused. Robbo thought the shortcut parameter is needed for ShadowPlay, not the reg edit.

 

Yes, the 344.75 is now our saviour

Ironically nvidia's incompetence is so pervasive that even the driver team makes elementary mistakes, and gave us the greatest bug ever.

 

Tell me about it. It's insulting. "oh Gee... Derp, Derp.. it was a bug for the last 10+ years after all" What do they take us for!

 

@octiceps,

I'd like to update my drivers, as well as hard-code my overclocks into my VBIOS. There have been several posts here related to flashing a modified VBIOS with overclocks, but they quickly get hidden as this thread gets longer. Could you please update the OP to reflect where we can get the necessary tools to edit and flash the VBIOS, and if possible, how to do so/a link to the steps involved? Everyone else who finds this thread can quickly get their info without having to dig through a pile of posts.

Thanks.

Let's keep this going, and hope for a reversal of decisions. Meanwhile, Nvidia still sucks and we're going to get our way or it loses our money.

 

LOL, we've talked on the phone before, that's how he sounds.

 

petition heading towards 500 signatures, nice

just to post the link one more time

https://www.change.org/p/nvidia-re-enable-overclocking-on-geforce-equipped-notebooks

 

Unfortunately, I have zero experience with Maxwell vBIOS editing and flashing. If someone else with the know-how wants to create a separate thread for BIOS mods, go right ahead. I probably won't be updating the OP again unless something big happens, like Nvidia breaks radio silence.

 

I'm sure Prema would be happy to do modded vBIOS for a nominal fee as long as it's a fairly common laptop.

 

This just popped up on slashdot: http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/...the-kibosh-on-overclocking-of-gtx-900m-series

 

Man, all these news outlets so late report on this. Oh well, at least we're getting more coverage of the issue.

 

What we need instead of modding vBIOS is to find a way to mod the drivers.. Modding vBIOS's is the easy way in a sense to this problem but it's really dangerous IMO.. Has anyone tried looking at the differences in the drivers and finding what has to be changed? A few pages back, a good method of using a tool to do this..

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...vidia-mobile-gpus.771169/page-27#post-9928105
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...vidia-mobile-gpus.771169/page-27#post-9928109

 

Tried getting support by posting in the star citizen forums and lol and behold I got blown up by desktop users saying want to overclock go buy a desktop. Think I'm done with PC gaming I figured being on the internet 24/7 people would of been made of higher intelligence but nope the ignorance is outstanding. Gonna go back to consoles I'd rather deal with the Call of Duty kiddies than this ****.

https://forums.robertsspaceindustri...rds-on-notebooks-overclocking-disabled#latest

 

There is a solution, but i find it a bit "rough":
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/808161/geforce-drivers/overclocking/

 

I'm telling you the average IQ for the desktop userbase is like 5, or was it 4? Either way, they're stupid as !@#.

I have calmed down a bit and have another AW18 on the way...

Somehow, despite Canada no longer selling the AW18, mine is in production with 4910MQ/32GB/880M SLI. I feel special.

 

LOL that's no solution at all. That's simply taking the driver file from 346.87 and putting it into a newer package. Might as well just install 346.87 if you're gonna do that. Same effect, less problems. And this is gonna break sooner or later if you try to do it with a new driver release from Nvidia.

 

Yep, I understand the difference now!

 

OK, now I see. You posted second post ahead 2 minutes before mine while I was reading the page. Doublepost, ayayay.

 

Well at least we know where to start.. I wonder if there is someway to edit this file..

 

Did anyone confirmed that fixes lock?

And it's not totally the same as old driver anyways so yeah, at least somethig.

 

Site was down again two and a half hours ago. This is actually starting to look suspicious.

 

I have always thought of my voice as being rather ordinary, so I am blushing as I am reading some of the compliments.

If most of them did not act like such jerks I would feel really sorry for the depth of their ignorance, but it's super tough to have pity on people that defy logic by the magnitude of their stupidity and seem to be proud of it.

 

It's def not, quite deep, which ladies usually die for.

 

Yeah, but at least give the dude props for not bending over for the Jolly Green Giant. Here's what I said to him.

 

The fact that Nvidia is DEAD SILENT on this matter despite pretty much every techsite have covered the story, dozens of forum threads including their own forum is bad PR for them, is not good man.

Shouldnt they have issued out a statement by now to get some breathing room?
I dont like this at all. They seem determined :/

 

I agree with your sentiment Mr Fox for the most part, but if that 'one silly game' you speak of that requires new drivers for performance/stability ends up being The Witcher 3, Just Cause 3 or Batman: AK etc. then 344.75 just won't suffice.

Also, I would like to have MFAA on all my games, not just the 12 specific titles that 344.75 supports.

Sent from my Nexus 5

 

ain't that the truth LOL. I still remember half a year ago those 880m flags problem

and btw those issues that they fixed are not even really issues, what new drivers do now usually is just to make sure every new game gets SLI support

 

The goons at NVIDIA will NEVER admit to anything. Even when they fix their mistakes they are typically silent. If the PR gets bad enough and they fear losing money, they'll fix it. It won't be for us, because they literally do not give a rat's butt about end users.

Until they get off their high horse and stop interfering with matters that are none of their business, you'll have to decide which is more important: letting them win, or having MFAA.

 

It's likely that The Witcher 3 will get a Game Ready Driver of its own. And when it does, I'll end up tweaking the VBIOS. But for the games I play right now, which are all on average 2 years old, 344.75 is just wonderful. Here's are shots from X-Plane 10 as I fly a payware B777-200LR over the U.S. countryside (frame rate, CPU and GPU time per frame are in top left, a little small but it still can be seen):



These are with the OC settings in my sig.