No more overclocking on Nvidia mobile GPUs

Everyone grab a screenshot of his message so if he does do a backflip there'll be enough evidence to crucify nVidia.

 

Already got it Cx I had it right when I saw it I wanted to show all of you but my android wouldn't connect to the forum till I rebooted it then I noticed it was already there. Cx

 

"A" screenshot? You must mean... Screenshot of his post and screenshot of me replying to a quote of his post? =D?

 

Yep, grabbed a screenie for portential proof as well as to share here, didn't expect to be the first person and figured someone would have beaten me to posting, but hey I'll take it, lol.

Anyhow, I spread the shot to OCN as well where it looks like I was first post there too. I've got it stored on both laptops and my cloud storage drives. Good luck pulling a 180 on this one Nvidia. Especially if everyone grabs screenies!

Edit: I replied, quoting him and took a fullscreen shot of it. I can share that on here if need to. But am for now just gonna put it on all my laptops and cloud drives for future reference.

 

Did hell just freeze over!? 0_0
I will be jumping for joy if they have decided to reverse their decision, even though I don't own a 900M GPU.

 

*Puts tinfoil hat on*

It's actually really not that hard to backpedal on this. PeterS could simply say "Let me clarify I meant a new driver with overclocking enabled IS in the works, but I misspoke when I said it will be in next month's release. Rest assured our software team is working hard on it, but it may take some time, and I plead for everyone's patience"

:trollface:

 

Thing is, this "bug" has been in just about every release since how long? All they need to do is add it back in. Shouldn't be too hard to do considering they removed the "bug" Bull on any excuses, I won't believe it. They have a lot riding on the line and it's too soon after all the other issues to try anything other than what they say. They have seen the uproar, and all we need to do is get all the news sites involved again and remind them about what happened before. We won't stop until they re-enable overclocking. I know that for sure, even if I gotta start a new thread.

 

OMG, it looks like Nvidia actually does care what we think, and the fact that many news outlets picked up on the story and even a few heavy hitters shamed Nvidia over the decision.

I would like to think Nvidia will make good on their statement from Peter and will in fact reintroduce that pesky "bug" that plagued those drivers for so long.

If they do, I say congrats Nvidia on making a smart and fair decision. You have once again gained my loyalty as a customer back. Though I have to say I am still a bit tempted to send AMD my support. Who knows how long it will be before Nvidia tries something like this again? Worse yet, what is AMD ceased to exist in the GPU market?

 

This is brilliant news, Nvidia listened to us! Thanks Nvidia, and thanks to us!!

 

Forgive my skepticism at this wonderful news. It's just that I've seen too many empty promises from Nvidia lately.

Anyway, OP updated with PeterS' statement.

 

If only the same sites would've done the same on reporting the desktop 970 issues... Oh well.

 

Did they not? I know the outcome was less than satisfactory (which is what gives me doubt about the resolution of this one), but it seemed like that issue got even more coverage than this one.

 

WoWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

 

ZOMG!! HAHAA! The taste of victory feels so great!! Now, let's make sure NVIDIA keeps its promise!

 

THE CONSUMER WINS!!!

WELL DONE COMRADES!!! WE WON!!! BRAVO!!! GOOD JOB!!! QUITE SPIFFING!!! EXCELLENT!!!

WOWOWOWOWOW!!!

KAKAKAKAKAKAKAWWW

[INSERT RANDOM NOISES HERE]

If NVIDIA release a fully unlocked GM204 this year, I'll be all over that shizz now that the greens have finally seen sense.

I'll be honest, I never expected them to cave like this. Just goes to show what we can do when we all work together *cue epic music*

Sent from my Nexus 5

 

Let's start the big celebration "next month" when the fixed driver actually releases, OK?

 

There was coverage yes, but most either sidestepped the issue by posting average FPS numbers (really? come on...), or didn't bring up the incorrect ROP/L2 cache specs.

It seems however that there have been more reports of people getting refunds from Newegg and Amazon, and incredibly Amazon is offering 20% partial refunds to buyers who inquire about it. (though it could just be Amazon being Amazin as always ) So maybe nVidia is doing something behind the scenes.

 

Newegg is also offering a $70 refund for you to keep your 970, which works out to around the same 20% of 970's MSRP

 

What's that? You'll have to speak up bud, I can't hear you over all this celebratory party music...

*lights the fireworks*

Sent from my Nexus 5

 

I agree.. I think we need to make the same news outlet's print this to make sure that NVIDIA can't get away with making a 180..

 

Guys, before you start bending down to kiss Nvidia's feet, do remember that they probably only changed their mind because they realised that this would hurt their sales, not because they care about us.`


Though victory is sweet. Great job everyone, this was a team effort. Now we just have to wait...

 

This is most certainly a victory. A lot of people doubted our actions and condemned our "naïveté". I'm glad we now get the license to put them in their place.

*queue uplifting epic music*

Our efforts have just saved the entire future of laptop overclocking.
And we will now descend back into the shadows.
Back to the dark basements we came from.
Never to be seen again.
And every time anyone will tune their clocks using their drivers, it will be because of us.
Our names forgotten by those who bear the fruits of our brave resistance.
But our deeds written into the annals of history.

*puts cloak on, descends into darkness*

 

I don't buy this until I actually see that working driver. Period.
It looks like Nvidia just uses such move to slow down anger and informing about this problem all over the internet. Like have a special cr@p-guy who says lie.

 

I'm surprised how quickly you all want to go back to sucking on that big green NviD! This isn't their first foray like this and we need to really keep the pressure on them. They have us one thing we asked for, the OC. Nothing on fixing driver performance, the willingness to misinform consumers (ramgate, save refunds), etc. It is time to continue pressing them and continue being for competition. In a one to two week hard press we did this. In a three plus month press, we can change more. This got us unified. Now continue with that voice to demand more from them, including working drivers, no more rebadging,etc.

 

Looks like potentially good news. We shall see what happens. If they do release the new driver with overclocking I'll pull the trigger on a new 980m equipped notebook soon after.

If there was an AMD card worth a damn I would buy that, but I need a new machine by may and they aren't releasing a new card by then that will perform on par or beat the 980m. As far as rebadging goes, it will always happen. Both AMD and Nvidia do this and its not going away any time soon.

 

QFT

Keep in mind they did this for themselves (their bottom line more precisely), NOT for us, as much as Peter Sierant would like you to believe.

Likely they started seeing this thing snowball and figured there's no way they could sweep this under the rug, and the negative press alone would hurt their sales.

So while we should celebrate our own campaigning efforts, let's not give any credit to nVidia where none is due.

 

Agreed, we need to continue to keep the pressure on Nvidia so it can't renege on its promise before the driver is released. All the news outlets that originally published articles on this story need to update them or write new ones to reflect today's turn of events.

 

It is good news, but let's keep the pressure going as ajc9988 and octiceps say, let the news site update to show how nvidia has updated what they said and just keep a watch out, as well as be ready to roar again. I was happy to share the good news, but let's not fully celebrate just yet.

 

Well, we shall see. If they don't deliver now it's going to be worse than if they just ignored us and left their drivers gimped. It would be irresponsible and naive to think they did this because they care about us. They changed their tune because of bad publicity and concern for the bottom line. Ultimately, I don't care what their reasons are. All that matters is they fix it. I don't care about an apology or having them explain the rationale that drove the stupidity in the beginning... results is what matters, and that is what they will ultimately be measured by.

However, I would like to know (and have proof) if any OEMs with a lot of weight played a major role in influencing NVIDIA's idiotic clock-blocking decision to begin with. If it was due to external influence and at the request of OEM(s), that is where the rage should be directed. That (or those) OEM need to be boycotted and run out of business on account of it.

 

I have my suspicions...some company that rhymes with Hell. I wouldn't be surprised if Asus put the screws to NVIDIA to re-enable it since their laptop advertised it and they didn't want to get sued. In the long term I don't think the prospects are good for laptop users. Hate to be the pessimist here but I suspect this will come back in another form, perhaps with a general lockout from NVIDIA and it being enabled by certain vendors only (e.g. Asus). If that happens, NVIDIA would basically wash it's hands of the issue and the pressure would be on vendors to keep providing updated drivers. Since it's not in NVIDIA or the vendors interest to do so, you'd probably get very slow driver updates or none at all. Kinda like motherboards, they have support for about 5-6 months then that's it, they're EOL unless it's a critical fix.

 

now we need to get DSR support...

 

haha I was thinking "What to ask for next?"....
DSR is a great idea and something I want to see on mobile. But I don`t think any techsite is willing to write about it

 

We may never know, but I share the same pessimism. It's all too suspicious with the overt emphasis, even preoccupation, focused using a desk-tethered graphics accelerator as an effort to make a silk purse from a sow's ear. Everything revolving around mobile computing performance is circling the drain across the industry. Some morons even think of their Android devices as a "gaming machine" for pity's sake. Angry Birds FTW! Not!

With asinine focus on low power utilization, thin, light, long battery run times and BGA filth, the future for our interest group is growing dim at a discouraging rate. Of equal concern is the potential that this cancer will metastasize and even spread into desktops. The retarded tree-hugging morons that believe the world is going to end came after cars and the oil industry first, later came the incandescent light bulbs, now computer tech. Everything excellent seems to fall into their crosshairs because of the misconceived and fabricated notion of an adverse environmental impact. Toss in the seat belt, air bags, helmet and anti-gun crises that have been fabricated by whacko people and chances are great we are all going to die... very soon, in fact. At the rate we're going with this nonsense, maybe we won't have anything worth living for, LOL. I'm just surprised they haven't already outlawed inkjet printers and paper... oh, wait. Those can be recycled. Fountain pens and pencils are dangerous, too. You can poke out an eye with those bad boys. Maybe I should just hush before I give them any more ideas.

And yes, as unbelievable as it might be, there were actually some nutjobs out there that thought is was good and right for NVIDIA to block overclocking to protect us from ourselves... insane.

 

Yup been saying it all along. Dell don't want to be bothered with keeping their own drivers current OR the reference ones letting people mess with their cards.


This used to be the message whenever you looked for a mobile driver (Note the link no longer goes to the wordy version ):
As part of the NVIDIA Notebook Driver Program, this is a reference driver that can be installed on supported NVIDIA notebook GPUs. However, please note that your notebook original equipment manufacturer (OEM) provides certified drivers for your specific notebook on their website. NVIDIA recommends that you check with your notebook OEM about recommended software updates for your notebook. OEMs may not provide technical support for issues that arise from the use of this driver.

After GFE, it just downloads without this specific warning. It will be back and GFE will probably include this warning as well. In your face Dell.

 

I don't really care why they did did it (it's obviously like you guys say - not for us but for their profitsss), I'm just happy that we won. We showed them who's in control here. Don't bite the hand that feeds you. That's the lesson we've forced them to learn here. It feels so satisfying to know we actually made a difference!

As for what this means for me - probably not a lot. This doesn't change the fact that my particular 980M is a lemon. A real lemon. The VRAM can only sustain +110 in Heaven/Valley/FireStrike and +210 in actual games (I still don't know why that is... confuses the heck out of me). The core is better, but still needs extra voltage to break that +135 limit - which I have decided that I'm not willing to risk due to the 180W PSU (while overvolted, the power consumption exceeds 180W - infact, at +300 it sat in the ~230W range with the extra voltage applied, which scared me too much despite the PSU staying remarkably cool considering how much extra power it was delivering).

Now I just have to decide once and for all between VRAM clocks of +200 or +110. I don't know why the former is unstable in Heaven/Valley/FireStrike but then in games it seems to be fine. It's a bit concerning...

 

wonder if exotic PC will ship a 240watt psu with my system if I ask them. Don't mind paying extra if need be either. Just wanna be able to have some overhead and not be limited in what my system is capable of out of the box.

 

Eurocom shipped me two 330w PSU's and an adapter to use them in parallel, 'In case you want to overclock it'. I never even asked, that's real customer service. If I manage to hit over 600w I expect to be number one on the 3D Mark site, haha

 

180W is plenty for overclocking on stock voltage. It's just overvolting which may be out of the question... I say that but the truth is; I don't know. The 180W PSU showed no sign of even coming close to dying throughout my testing of overvolting, even when it was delivering 230W of power! I just felt too uncomfortable knowing that it was working so far over its rated power draw. For all I know it could be totally capable of sustaining that level of power draw for many months or years to come. But there's no guarantee of course and I didn't fancy risking it.

I'm hoping that Clevo will make a 230W/240W adapter for this model when the new GTX 1080M is released - if it's as I suspect and based on a fully unlocked GM204 chip, then 180W probably won't cut it and they will be forced to give us something more. So when I upgrade to a new 1080M equipped laptop, I'll get a 230W/240W PSU to go along with it - that's my dream scenario

 

with the overclocking capabilities that the 900M series show, its very doubtful that Nvidia would have any reason whatsoever to release a fully unlocked GM204 chip in the mobile sector... theyre just gonna overclock the 980M, rebrand it and be done with it repeat that until uve got urself a maxxed out 980M rebrand and ONLY THEN will they change chip arch

 

@jaybee83 - they already let themselves some wiggle room by leaving vacant solder pads for VRMs at the top of the GPU. Add another VRM, call it a 1080M or a 980M Ti and bump the clocks 100Mhz and they're ready for the next GPU refresh.

 

Haha excellent news!!! I am proud of you all

 

I don't know man, I really think we'll be seeing a fully unlocked GM204 this year (and really hoping too!). I think they will want to stay one step ahead of AMD. They can easily do it, we all know they can - 780M was a full GK104 after all. I just think history will repeat itself and they will go all-in this time around. It's a hunch!

I won't bother upgrading if it's just a rebrand (obviously), but I will be among the first to buy a fully unlocked GM204! We'll see, but I hope I'm right!

EDIT: note how the 'bug' has now magically become a 'feature' again!

 

Absolutely fantastic news.

Well done everyone.

 

just received the petition update, good that u included the clause of keeping up the pressure until the new driver is actually released and has properly been tested by the community

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

 

Asus and msi could have been behind it. Remember, if oc is locked and you are the only offeree of OC hardware =value to consumers. Yeah money. So let's not anyone jump to conclusions because I can give reasons why all OEMs have motive

 

Good luck; Mr. Fox, Meaker and Johnksss exist on this site XD

 

I am really glad that for once in my life, signing a petition and telling a large corporation that they messed up seems to have worked.
We'll see if it lasts in their drivers- but I'm happy for now.

 

Great news, but I would wait until a driver is actually released that fixes the OC gimp. As everyone has said, this is a business decision by Nvidia - they haven't magically started caring about consumers.

We should keep up the pressure on it and screw the hell out of Nvidia should it do a 180°.

 

Great success! Borat approves!

Sent from my GT-I9300

 

Article alert!

http://www.kitguru.net/components/g...ocking-of-geforce-gtx-900m-graphics-adapters/