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    No more overclocking on Nvidia mobile GPUs

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by octiceps, Feb 11, 2015.

  1. Templesa

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    Hmm, I note they keep saying GTX... Wonder if that means it'll be dropped on GT series? My GT 840M doesn't like the sound of that, what with the already limited memory, but at least my 980m will remain happy.
     
    Templesa, Feb 19, 2015
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  3. octiceps

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    We'll have to see on that one. I sure hope not.
     
    octiceps, Feb 19, 2015
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  4. James D

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    They easily may effff you and continue efffing (double-efffff) others. Easily.
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    I wrote here how Nvidia can easily gimp many mobile GPUs with OC lock. If you missed it, you are late. I deleted it to be safe.
     
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  5. DataShell

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    Well it was more the threat of loss in sales, but you know, same difference.
     
    DataShell, Feb 19, 2015
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    Yeah good point on the 840M.

    I would like to continue overclocking the 840M in my UX303LN.
     
    Last edited: Feb 19, 2015
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  7. Templesa

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    What are your stable OC's with your UX303? I played a match of DotA before and crashed pretty bad on 344.75 w/ +135 core. Granted, it was the very first time I tried OC on it.
     
    Templesa, Feb 19, 2015
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    Will these upcoming "unlocked" drivers be truly unlocked or still be capped at max +135 on the core?
     
    Sebi97, Feb 19, 2015
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    135 cap
     
    Zero989, Feb 19, 2015
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    +135 Core, +300 Mem.

    Runs absolutely fine.
     
    iaTa, Feb 19, 2015
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    Man, that sucks :(
    Looks like I'll need mods again to OC it past +135
     
    Sebi97, Feb 19, 2015
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  12. TomJGX

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    You need it for any laptop to OC beyond the limit and also to add voltage...
     
    TomJGX, Feb 19, 2015
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    Just tried it, ran pretty good for DotA with 135 / 300. It was the network I think.
     
    Templesa, Feb 19, 2015
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    HTWingNut, Feb 19, 2015
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    Nothing to see here Nvidia.... run along. ...go unfix that driver. Thanks!


    It's sort of funny, because after all this ...I'm not overclocking my 980m right now. I just want to be able to OC down the road when I need to.
     
    thegreatsquare, Feb 19, 2015
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  18. kolias

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    We did it guys!!!!!!!XOXOXOXOXXO
    :)
     
    kolias, Feb 19, 2015
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  19. n=1

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    Damn I just realized, nVidia could basically limit OC to +10 on core and memory and still claim they put the overclocking functionality back. :eek:
     
    n=1, Feb 19, 2015
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  20. Player2

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    That's exactly what I was thinking. They said or should I say one person said that they would re enable overclocking but they didn't specify to what extent. I think there is still something fishy going to happen. Because usually when it's to good to be true 99.9 percent of the time it usually is.
     
    Player2, Feb 19, 2015
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  21. TBoneSan

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    I have a bad feeling we haven't seen the end of this. Some kind of artificial gimping might still be on the cards. I think if it weren't for swap-able MXM modules in the bigger system with better cooling we might have had less of a fight on our hands.
     
    TBoneSan, Feb 19, 2015
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  22. King of Interns

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    Who cares if they limit it to +10. With the modifications done by Prema and SVL 7 the sliders can be unlocked to go much further right? Pretty sure on the 680M it is +135 and when I flash SVL 7 bios magically the slider is not limited at all.

    Still I will also wait to see what Nvidia actually do. They still haven't given a good enough reason why they did it in the first place. AMD please release something to wipe the floor with Nvidia they sorely deserve it.
     
    King of Interns, Feb 19, 2015
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  23. Player2

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    They did it in the first place to simply see if they could get away with it.and try to force us to have to upgrade more often. At least that's what I think anyway.
     
    Player2, Feb 19, 2015
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  24. thegreatsquare

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    If they're gonna play fast and loose, it will probably be something less obvious, like changing the power settings in some way.

    MXM probably helped IMO. They're usually in a more high priced segment of laptops and AMD makes them too, so even though there is a lull, that's where there would be greater competition.
     
    thegreatsquare, Feb 19, 2015
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    This isn't over yet folks, and the worst may yet to come. If we let our guard down now we'll be playing right into nVidia's hands. Keep focused and carry on. :)
     
    n=1, Feb 20, 2015
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  26. TBoneSan

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    +1, keep hammering them fellas. It's not over till the fat lady sings.
     
    TBoneSan, Feb 20, 2015
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    I doubt it though, they wouldn't risk doing that for the backlash, I think they'll just reinstate the limits as they were before +135Mhz on the core, which is a hard limit in the vBIOS anyway.

    EDIT: On a slightly different side of this topic, it looks like Dell might not have had a hand in the overclocking ban:
    http://en.community.dell.com/owners-club/alienware/f/3746/t/19620124

    However, there is a lot of discussion in this following thread suspecting that the above statement by Dell is hokum!
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ger-frank-azor-anything-on-awa.770195/page-28
     
    Last edited: Feb 20, 2015
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  28. jaybee83

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    maybe theyll decide to bring back the TDP throttle they had installed in pre-347 drivers..... o_O
     
    jaybee83, Feb 20, 2015
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  29. -Jinx-

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    Yeah but prema's vBios disables that throttle so.... no worries there
     
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    Is that easy to install on the gtx 980m 8gb?

    Sent from my GT-I9300
     
    Arthedes, Feb 20, 2015
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    sasuke256, Feb 20, 2015
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  32. jaybee83

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    sure, just follow the instructions by prema and u should be dandy :)
     
    jaybee83, Feb 20, 2015
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  33. James D

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    And what we would do now? It looks silly if we continue basing nvidia the same way as we did for clockblock after that so-called reverse post. While I have already told what may be on nvidia's mind.
    After thinking about this once again perhaps we should make preventive attack on nividia forum right now? So they wouldn't dare to do what I predicted before?
    Couple pages of rage right after that post may prevent them from gimping other half of affected notebooks, no?
     
    James D, Feb 20, 2015
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    Already done (not rage): https://forums.geforce.com/default/...king-with-347-09-347-25/post/4467098/#4467098

    Just trying to pull all the 'thank you Nvidia' posts back to reality...
     
    MickyD1234, Feb 20, 2015
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    Assuming things go back to how they were before the restricted drivers, just how hard is that +135MHz limit? I seem to remember a few years ago that you could get around that limit in Nvidia Inspector by creating a custom .bat file. I haven't tried it for a long time (I used the trick on an old laptop with a 660M), but does that still work? Is there anyway to push past that limit using software that doesn't mess with the vBios?
     
    oceanic156, Feb 20, 2015
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  36. octiceps

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    The Inspector batch file should still work. However I haven't checked in a while.
     
    octiceps, Feb 20, 2015
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  37. n=1

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    Keep spreading the word, get this news out to as many people as you can. The more eyes we have on nVidia the better.
     
    n=1, Feb 20, 2015
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    octiceps, Feb 20, 2015
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    Hey guys, I'm on 344.75 and I can't OC at all using Afterburner or NVI. 344.75 was the last official build to support OCing still, correct?
     
    Phawx, Feb 20, 2015
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    Overclocking to Return to Nvidia Mobile GPUs | DSOG
    I would settle on a final written warning, a "come to Jesus meeting" with HR and a performance management plan to ensure it does not happen again.
    What system/specs? Did you just downgrade in place to 344.75 or clean with DDU in Safe Mode and reinstall?
     
    Mr. Fox, Feb 20, 2015
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    I installed Windows 8. Upgraded to 8.1. Verified that no Nvidia driver were in the Windows Updates. installed 344.75.

    I'm on a Clevo P770ZM 980M
     
    Phawx, Feb 20, 2015
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    That's really odd. 980M is not locked down on my Clevo with 980M. Maybe try 344.60 and see if the problem is still present. If it is, you have something weird going on.

    Are you using NVIDIA Inspector, Afterburner or Precision X for changing clocks? Maybe try another tool to see if it is any different.

    Encouraging to see our friend DELL-Chris M (Dell employee) was offering assistance to folks that want to overclock their Alienware machines.
     
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    I'm using Nvidia Inspector and Afterburner. I'll DDU in safe mode and install 344.60 and let you know
     
    Phawx, Feb 20, 2015
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    DDU your old drivers... It's probably not working due to some corrupt drivers... Also run CC Cleaner's registry cleaner...

    Download 344.75 from NVIDIA's website.. make sure it's the mobile driver... OCing will definetly work with 344.75..
     
    TomJGX, Feb 20, 2015
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    I'm pretty sure P7xxZM model owners can OC on 344.75... that is very weird.
     
    D2 Ultima, Feb 20, 2015
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    DDU'd went to Nvidia's official site went to older and beta drivers 980m > 344.60

    Still can't overclock

    [​IMG]
     
    Phawx, Feb 20, 2015
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    Could be BIOS specific for your model
    All prior 347.xx works for me with my AW18
     
    Cloudfire, Feb 20, 2015
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    Yeah, but I still feel a worm inside me. Perhaps we should immediately send emails to tose News Sites that nvidia locked all Maxwell GPUs, and not just 900M aka GTX-based laptops.
    Many wrote articles without proper information: wrong driver which firts disabled OCing, not a full list of GPUs. Maybe that's why that PeterS decided to point out that only GTX -based laptops will be fixed.

    I guess we should continue posting in Nvidia thread about not appropriate decision to write that promise in that way that some cards will be still locked. I have already enough artificial limitation with "non-GTX GPU" like Shadowplay with a modded short-link and other general "laptop-gimp" stuff.

    And we should do it together to fullfill full page or even 2 so it wouldn't get lost. Lets do this in 14 hours all together (proper Time Zone for everyone?)
     
    James D, Feb 20, 2015
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